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Title: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: search on 31 May 2012, 19:16
had my tracking done today, both front and back were well out but they could only do the front as they were the only ones that could be adjusted. (so confused how the back could be so out to ahwell)

while i was there 2 hours waiting "yawns" i asked for them to fill my tyres up with Nitrogen as the leaflet told me to LOL. anyways on the way home i felt the drive was much better not so bouncy (coilovers ;-)..) but couldn't decide if it was because iv just got the tracking done or the nitrogen in my tyres. how ever i will be keeping my eye on how much petrol i am meant to save as it said use 4% less petrol thinking about it not sure if that was a year or on every journey.

Anyways else thought about Filling your tyres up with Nitrogen?
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 May 2012, 19:21
It's just clever marketing bullsh!t and pointless on standard road going vehicles imo.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Luke1981 on 31 May 2012, 19:26
As Mr wronghorse says! It's a complete gimmick. Compressed air is 78% nitrogen. Unless you are running a formula 1 car it makes no difference.

Costco are fcukers for this!
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Khare on 31 May 2012, 19:30
As Mr wronghorse says! It's a complete gimmick. Compressed air is 78% nitrogen. Unless you are running a formula 1 car it makes no difference.

Costco are fcukers for this!

Disagree. It does make a difference. The advantage with nitrogen is it's thicker too so it won't go down over time through any tiny leaks like air should. I however hate the fact that you have to pay for it over here. Over in Spain and Brazil you can get it at petrol stations for free.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: search on 31 May 2012, 19:32
FREE!!! i paid £2 a wheel lol.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: thebassman on 31 May 2012, 20:17

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Disagree. It does make a difference. The advantage with nitrogen is it's thicker too so it won't go down over time through any tiny leaks like air should. I however hate the fact that you have to pay for it over here. Over in Spain and Brazil you can get it at petrol stations for free.
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+1
Nitrogen is lighter than air, slightly, but has larger molecules.
I could go into business as we have a bulk liquid Nitrogen facility where I work  :laugh:
We use it in place of air lines as it is much dryer and cleaner.
Cheers
Thebassman
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Bandit127 on 31 May 2012, 20:23
I had a set of new tyres filled with nitrogen on my old MV6. 18 months later they were still up to pressure.

TBH I started out very cynical - I too know that air is 78% nitrogen. But the fact is they never needed topping up.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Luke1981 on 31 May 2012, 20:32
Honestly gents its a gimmick! Normal road tyres do not benefit from 100% nitrogen. It's all depends on the operating temp!
For normal road tyres nitrogen is a  placebo effect!
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: liva2704 on 31 May 2012, 21:03
Compressed air also contains water molecules and nitrogen does not
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Luke1981 on 31 May 2012, 21:28
Your correct, compressed air does contain water molecules which will pass through the porous walls of a tyre, however the actual difference you will notice is minute!

The cost you pay for nitrogen filled tyres is a rip off compared to the tiny gain you might get. You will prob get more leakage from the valves or tyre gunk.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Ess_Three on 31 May 2012, 22:12
So much missinformation and bullsh!t on this thread  :grin:

Pure N2 is more thermally stable - so as your tyres get hot, the pressures don't change as the water content boils off.
That's the only advantage of it.

And on a road car, with road tyres...it makes absolutely NO difference.
You'll not get the tyres hot enough.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: tweed on 31 May 2012, 22:30
So much missinformation and bullsh!t on this thread  :grin:

Pure N2 is more thermally stable - so as your tyres get hot, the pressures don't change as the water content boils off.
That's the only advantage of it.

And on a road car, with road tyres...it makes absolutely NO difference.
You'll not get the tyres hot enough.

Beat me to it.

Tried it in karting and didn't really think it was worth the hassle. But the difference from aluminium to magnesium wheels is huge. Heat comes on faster and due to low volume it stays at the correct heat and pressure for longer, giving me 5 fast laps instead of 1/2
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 May 2012, 22:39
So much missinformation and bullsh!t on this thread  :grin:

Pure N2 is more thermally stable - so as your tyres get hot, the pressures don't change as the water content boils off.
That's the only advantage of it.

And on a road car, with road tyres...it makes absolutely NO difference.
You'll not get the tyres hot enough.


Thank you, Glen. Like I said no benefit on a daily road going vehicle.
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: danny_p on 31 May 2012, 23:38
one of my tyers is filled with pure argon  rest are nitrogen

notice performance diffrence  - no
notice tyers staying at pressure longer - no  tyers dont last that long


why - lots of wind in a small bottel and very convinent
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Ess_Three on 01 June 2012, 11:41
one of my tyers is filled with pure argon  rest are nitrogen

why - lots of wind in a small bottel and very convinent

Hell Danny...you must be well off if you are wasting Argon filling tyres up!  :grin:
Send some my way...it's bloody expensive stuff!!
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: search on 01 June 2012, 12:09
So much missinformation and bullsh!t on this thread  :grin:

Pure N2 is more thermally stable - so as your tyres get hot, the pressures don't change as the water content boils off.
That's the only advantage of it.

And on a road car, with road tyres...it makes absolutely NO difference.
You'll not get the tyres hot enough.

makes a lot of sense actually. well i got sucked in didn't i LOL
Title: Re: nitrogen tyres.
Post by: Len on 01 June 2012, 12:24
One born every minute! :rolleyes: