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General => The garage => Topic started by: ynwalfc5 on 30 May 2012, 00:20
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Hello people! I have just bought my first golf gti its a mk4 turbo 180 bph. I have just swapped it for a my peugeot 306gti6 an am to be honest gutted it dont feel as quick. Was just seeing if for 1 a induction kit makes it sound nicer an puts more power into it an 2 if a ecu remap does any harm to your engine. Thanks Neil
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stick with a panel filter an a decent map wont hurt it :smiley: an what year is it
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Providing the remap is from a decent tuner then you should not have any problems, obviously there is the risk of components failing earlier as will be pushing harder but 1.8T tend to take well to a remap although mass air flow sensors and ignition coils are well known for failing even more so after a remap.
induction kit will make a decent sound but probably no difference in performance compared to a stock airbox
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stick with standard airbox, and gti6 are gay.. not that much faster if nt the same than a saxo vts you sure its a 180 bhp you have? also if you go for a k&n filter you will be changing air flow meters every few months. pannel filter, de cat, good service and good remap and you will be suprized how much faster it will be, you will love it
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Personal choice on the airbox / induction kit.
I notice mine pull better with the induction kit at higher speeds (70ish :grin:)
When I had mine remapped the clutch went in a week, I know it was going anyway and a remap just shows weaknesses earlier.
get it mapped though because its a totally different drive and you will be amazed with the difference
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A remap is the best thing I ever did to mine :afro: makes so much difference.
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Surely the first thing to do is make sure it's all working properly.
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Thats what I was going to say make sure there are no boost leaks, if you think you have a 180 and you actually have a 150 then that may be a factor :grin:
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Safe nice one everyone for replying. No i def have the 180bhp! Well so it says on all the paper work and the insurance company says it comes up at a 1.8t 180. So i hope so mate. An to the bloke that says gti6s are gay you might get a little surprise if you race 1. I hav both at the moment standing in my drive and i can say without any doubt the gti6 is alot more responsive in every gear. To be fair they might be similar 0-60 (but i stil think the gti6 is stil quicker unfortunately) but above 60 i def think the gti6 is alot quicker. I do hav a scorpion exhaust and a k&n on the pug and my golf is standard but i honestly thought the golf would be quicker with 13 more bhp. But i wil admit i dont no alot about the technical side of cars at all. Anyway enough of the gti6. I went to sca racing in norwich today one of the biggest tuning shops in norwich from wat i no and they told me to get a superchip first for 399 inc vat and labour cos they say there the most reliable and adds 38bhp and i think he said 50 pound of talk. Any good? Anyone no please? Also he then said get an exhaust and a piper cross induction kit an ill be hitting about 225bhp plus. Anyone no if this is true. cheers again neil
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And why does everyone say get a panel filter not an induction kit. do they make the car sound nicer cos i want a bit more noise not to much but a nice growl. Thanks again Neil
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nowt wrong with pipercross induction kits mate just run a cold air feed to the filter
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my car and alot of other 1.8ts run crap with induction kits on as you find with alot of petrol turbos ive got a pipercross pannel filter with a drilled airbox, with induction kit you get alot more chatter i found, just dont go buying a induction kit as in a few weeks you will be taking it off again :) and you will be changing air flow meters....
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Only as safe as the engine..
Post remap the turbo, engine or clutch could fail straight away... Bad times On the other hand you could have 100,000 miles of faultless fun ...... Happy days!!!
With remapping, chip tuning, hardware tuning, modding ect.. there is always an element of risk, if this risk worries you or could cause you financial hardship then keep the car 100% stock and dont tune.
IMHO I would say around 80% of the cars we tune are faultless, 10% minor issues, boost pipes popping off, coil pack failing, maf ect. then 5% more major with clutch slipping, oil pumps failing ect and 5% with turbos failing.
Is bungee jumping safe??? I would not do it just in case the elastic band snapped...lol
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How has no one picked up on 50 pounds of talk yet?
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How has no one picked up on 50 pounds of talk yet?
:grin: :grin: :grin: f**king jesus, must have been skim reading :tongue: :evil:.
Sorry OP :kiss:
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how much do engine remapping normally cost and how much more bollocks will my car have and can my car be remapped (1.8 mk1 golf gti cab) she is standard to my knowledge but she has done a 2.0 focus of the go up to 60mph and left a saxo vts/vtc/vtr (the crappy gold ones with the body kit that looks like its been designed by halfords all i know it was a vt do forgive the only French cars i like was the 1.9 205 gti and the renault 5 turbo rwd)
another thing if i have a crash and have not declared the engine remapping whats the chances of spotting that it has been done its not really that visual such as a body kit or a scorpion exhaust system
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They will never know about the remap, unless they put it on a rolling road or use expensive specialist tools to read the ECU.
Go get a R-Tech remap and save yourself a good 100-150 quid from the guy you went and seen.
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They will never know about the remap, unless they put it on a rolling road or use expensive specialist tools to read the ECU.
Go get a R-Tech remap and save yourself a good 100-150 quid from the guy you went and seen.
More and more Insurance companies are doing just this these days,
Its quite easy to get caught out,
Guess you wouldn't declare the exhaust, Bigger wheels and so on either?
People who don't declare mods are daft and are as bad as people who drive without insurance, which is in fact what you are doing by not declaring mods.
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Safe nice one everyone for replying. No i def have the 180bhp! Well so it says on all the paper work and the insurance company says it comes up at a 1.8t 180. So i hope so mate. An to the bloke that says gti6s are gay you might get a little surprise if you race 1. I hav both at the moment standing in my drive and i can say without any doubt the gti6 is alot more responsive in every gear. To be fair they might be similar 0-60 (but i stil think the gti6 is stil quicker unfortunately) but above 60 i def think the gti6 is alot quicker. I do hav a scorpion exhaust and a k&n on the pug and my golf is standard but i honestly thought the golf would be quicker with 13 more bhp. But i wil admit i dont no alot about the technical side of cars at all. Anyway enough of the gti6. I went to sca racing in norwich today one of the biggest tuning shops in norwich from wat i no and they told me to get a superchip first for 399 inc vat and labour cos they say there the most reliable and adds 38bhp and i think he said 50 pound of talk. Any good? Anyone no please? Also he then said get an exhaust and a piper cross induction kit an ill be hitting about 225bhp plus. Anyone no if this is true. cheers again neil
gti6s are dog awful, made from baked bean tins. horrid french tat :sick:
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gti6s are dog awful, made from baked bean tins. horrid french tat :sick:
Probably the most ill-informed post here. A GTi6 will wipe the floor with any standard Mk4 GTI, even the Anniversary ed. It'll out accelerate, out brake, out corner and sound twice as good. As a drivers car, the Mk4 is the dog awful car from the two.
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gti6s are dog awful, made from baked bean tins. horrid french tat :sick:
Probably the most ill-informed post here. A GTi6 will wipe the floor with any standard Mk4 GTI, even the Anniversary ed. It'll out accelerate, out brake, out corner and sound twice as good. As a drivers car, the Mk4 is the dog awful car from the two.
someones on the wrong forum
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gti6s are dog awful, made from baked bean tins. horrid french tat :sick:
Probably the most ill-informed post here. A GTi6 will wipe the floor with any standard Mk4 GTI, even the Anniversary ed. It'll out accelerate, out brake, out corner and sound twice as good. As a drivers car, the Mk4 is the dog awful car from the two.
someones on the wrong forum
Think everything he said is true...it would out accelerate, out brake etc etc...it's a fair comment..the forum he's on doesn't change the fact...
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And why does everyone say get a panel filter not an induction kit. do they make the car sound nicer cos i want a bit more noise not to much but a nice growl. Thanks again Neil
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mapin is safe , u can stay safe and go low , or squish everything out of it .... upgrades to certain parts needed the higher u go :),
a lot more den 70 , top end u need a lot of air fow
induction kits are dirt , car is bein starved of the proper air
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mapping not 100% safe.. a remap could be the last straw which breaks the donkeys back.
A map is only as good as the hardware.
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Only as safe as the engine..
Post remap the turbo, engine or clutch could fail straight away... Bad times On the other hand you could have 100,000 miles of faultless fun ...... Happy days!!!
With remapping, chip tuning, hardware tuning, modding ect.. there is always an element of risk, if this risk worries you or could cause you financial hardship then keep the car 100% stock and dont tune.
Is bungee jumping safe??? I would not do it just in case the elastic band snapped...lol
Biggest trouble after my map was boost pipes popping off, so I got steel fittings made at the time.
anything fun is always a gamble :smiley:
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Had my 1.8t remapped about a year ago now R-Teck Hinckly, thanks guys" had no problems at all :smiley:
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Only as safe as the engine..
Post remap the turbo, engine or clutch could fail straight away... Bad times On the other hand you could have 100,000 miles of faultless fun ...... Happy days!!!
With remapping, chip tuning, hardware tuning, modding ect.. there is always an element of risk, if this risk worries you or could cause you financial hardship then keep the car 100% stock and dont tune.
Is bungee jumping safe??? I would not do it just in case the elastic band snapped...lol
Biggest trouble after my map was boost pipes popping off, so I got steel fittings made at the time.
anything fun is always a gamble :smiley:
That's because your map held 28psi of boost to the redline. :grin:
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Only as safe as the engine..
Post remap the turbo, engine or clutch could fail straight away... Bad times On the other hand you could have 100,000 miles of faultless fun ...... Happy days!!!
With remapping, chip tuning, hardware tuning, modding ect.. there is always an element of risk, if this risk worries you or could cause you financial hardship then keep the car 100% stock and dont tune.
Is bungee jumping safe??? I would not do it just in case the elastic band snapped...lol
Biggest trouble after my map was boost pipes popping off, so I got steel fittings made at the time.
anything fun is always a gamble :smiley:
That's because your map held 28psi of boost to the redline. :grin:
ha true :)
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My Golf has been remapped for 4 or 5 years ( I dont remember) and my Passat was done nearly 2 years ago.
Both done by Rtech and all has been fine.
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chucked a map on the 200k passat i got off chuff :evil:
it did traumatise the ratteling wastegate a bit to much tho, found the valve head wedged in the exhaust turbine. quite how it managed to get there i failed to work out, 2nd hand turbos are cheep enough rebuild kits are cheep enough as well, ether rebuild it if suspect it or get a 2nd hand one and rebuild that.
as for clutches if a map kills it it was on its way out anyway
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chucked a map on the 200k passat i got off chuff :evil:
it did traumatise the ratteling wastegate a bit to much tho, found the valve head wedged in the exhaust turbine. quite how it managed to get there i failed to work out, 2nd hand turbos are cheep enough rebuild kits are cheep enough as well, ether rebuild it if suspect it or get a 2nd hand one and rebuild that.
as for clutches if a map kills it it was on its way out anyway
This has set me me up for the day. I love your attitude :grin:
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How has no one picked up on 50 pounds of talk yet?
I was just casually reading through when I find this little gem!
Hat off to you sir :D
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Hello people! I have just bought my first golf gti its a mk4 turbo 180 bph. I have just swapped it for a my peugeot 306gti6 an am to be honest gutted it dont feel as quick. Was just seeing if for 1 a induction kit makes it sound nicer an puts more power into it an 2 if a ecu remap does any harm to your engine. Thanks Neil
In the same predicament..sold my gti to buy a golf turbo and dssapointed. The 6 has always beat golf gtis but i didnt realise how slow they r. Now iv gotta spend twice what it cost me just to get it the same speed as my gti6 lol!! Although the golfs alot nicer and smoother to drive. But u cant beat a gti 6 for a little hatch. And to whoever sed theyre the same as a vts..a vts is 120bhp the gti 6 is near on 170 and pulls like a train right off the clock. Defo gonna purchase another 6 in the future. Hopefully ill be happier with my golf in the coming months too :)
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Was the pug reliable?
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Was the pug reliable?
Tbh mate when i got it i thought i was gna have loadsa problems with it, being French and all that lol. But after owning it for a year the only problems i had was aux belt snapping and a headlight bulb blowing! I ragged that car every day and it was spot on. Really suprised me tbh. Will possibly get another as a track car or something when iv got cash spare..which atm is never as its goin on the golf lol