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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Mr_Orange on 25 May 2012, 21:31

Title: Engine Replacement
Post by: Mr_Orange on 25 May 2012, 21:31
Running a 1.8t AUM and the engine is getting a bit long in the tooth, so looking at options to keep the old girl on the road.... ie change out the lump.
Basic long block exchange rebuilds look anywhere around £1300, so considering a low mileage 1.8t from the VAG range.  Which engines are a straight bolt up with the minimum of fuss?  I can obviously keep manifold and ancillaries etc and will team all this up with a fresh turbo too. 
I'm not looking at this in terms of some super power project, but if a BAM or other uprated motor can go in without me having to fanny around too much then I'll certainly consider that.
I'm waiting for a lock-up to come through and thinking I might like to tackle this job myself!..... :laugh:
Cheers
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2012, 21:47
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 25 May 2012, 21:49
I web through the options and in the end I just rebuilt my engine.

Here was my though process:
Refurbished engine: not uprated - not all the bits I want replaced in a rebuild would be done and there's the possibility that the worksmanship might be questionable.

Low mileage engine: don't know if the engine was bed in properly, maintained properly or mistreated.
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Mr_Orange on 26 May 2012, 16:18
Cheers lads.  I've had similar thoughts myself.  AUQ is a possibility, but depends what is about when I start shopping.  If I get the ECU will it need programming to my clocks etc?
Will only Golf engines be a straight swap into a Golf?  Will another VAG lump mate up to my gearbox and manifolds etc?
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Rhyso on 26 May 2012, 16:20
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?

For the money youll spend on a rebuild id put it towards a MK5 GTI  :evil:
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Mr_Orange on 26 May 2012, 16:28
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?

For the money youll spend on a rebuild id put it towards a MK5 GTI  :evil:

Not sure.  I know AUQ is also a K03s.  If there's one around at the time its a definite possibility.  Are the 1.8t long blocks all the same format for ancillaries etc?

I'm quite fond of the old girl now and this is all in aid of me keeping it and prolonging the agony enjoyment of ownership
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 26 May 2012, 16:40
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?

For the money youll spend on a rebuild id put it towards a MK5 GTI  :evil:

True - about the ecu being fine from the aum.
I'm not fond of the mk5, nearly every mk5 I worked on suffered from rusting arches  :shocked:
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Rhyso on 26 May 2012, 17:01
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?

For the money youll spend on a rebuild id put it towards a MK5 GTI  :evil:

True - about the ecu being fine from the aum.
I'm not fond of the mk5, nearly every mk5 I worked on suffered from rusting arches  :shocked:

As a driving machine its light years ahead though
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: RTechUK on 26 May 2012, 17:28
AUM ecu will work 100% spot on with AUQ enigne
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2012, 00:00
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?


I was told they are different but if not where does the extra 30bhp come from (is it the map ?)
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 27 May 2012, 00:41
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?


I was told they are different but if not where does the extra 30bhp come from (is it the map ?)
Only the map is different. Ecu is the same Bosch me7.5, same pin out diagram, same engine looms, same engine etc.
Title: Re: Engine Replacement
Post by: RTechUK on 27 May 2012, 11:47
Why not go for an AUQ you would need the matching ecu as well.

AUM and AUQ are the same bar the ecu. No?


I was told they are different but if not where does the extra 30bhp come from (is it the map ?)

All the power is from just the map, flash a AUM map to the AUQ ecu and engine then you have 150bhp and and flash AUM with AUQ map and 180bhp.

I think the engine codes are related to emission output to keep the EU pen pushers happy.