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Title: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Dean_W on 24 May 2012, 10:27
I got flashed doing 36 in a 30 by a fixed camera.  Recieved the notification through the post and it basically says take the points and fine, or go to court.

I've been driving 9 years, and got (had  :sad: ) a clean licence.  Never been done for anything.

It doesn't say anything about the speed awareness course that people go on.  Can i get put on this?  How do i go about it?  Or, am i buggered and just have to take the points?

Thanks  :smiley:

Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: justalex81 on 24 May 2012, 10:37
if it doesn't offer you the option then i'm not sure. I got done recently exactly the same circumstances as you. I think you first have to accept liability and it's possible that the following letter offers you the awareness course.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Kerrse on 24 May 2012, 10:47
When you send back the form to say who was driving there is usually a box to tick to say if offered you would do it, i only know becaue my mrs got one the other day. Once you have sent the form back you will then get a letter if they decide to offer it to you.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: scarr89 on 24 May 2012, 11:09
Gutted Deano!  :sad:

I don't know if how the speed awareness courses work. First time I got caught, police man with camera, I had to take the points. 2nd time I had to take the points, but 3rd time I got offered the course. I'm guessing it must have something to do with the area/constabulary you get caught in... :sad:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Mitching on 24 May 2012, 12:01
IIRC speed awareness courses are for people caught speeding within 10% of the limit?
So if you do 33 in a 30, you can get away with it, but over that you're either knowingly speeding or driving carelessly so get the points and a fine.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Mikester on 24 May 2012, 12:05
This tells you everything you need to know. I guess its norfolk where you got caught.

http://norfolk-safety-camera.org.uk/index.php?page=speedaware

"The new Norfolk Speed Awareness course has been made more widely available to offences detected from the 1st June 2008 by offering it to those drivers / riders who have exceeded the limit in all speed zones and up to the threshold of 10%+9 (i.e. up to 42mph in a 30mph zone etc)(effective from 1st December 2010)."

"Q.  How will I know if I am eligible to attend a Speed Awareness Course?
A.  After admitting to the offence, if you are eligible you will receive a letter from Norfolk County Council inviting you to attend a Speed Awareness Course.  You will have the option to accept this offer or decline."
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Kerrse on 24 May 2012, 12:06
my mrs was doing 36 in a 30 near Petersfield she got offered it
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: scarr89 on 24 May 2012, 12:19
76 in a 60 and I got offered it....36 in a 30 and I didn't  :huh:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: justalex81 on 24 May 2012, 12:25
38 in a 30 and i got offered it.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 24 May 2012, 12:55
42 in a 30, got offered it. Winner!
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: stfc_gti on 24 May 2012, 13:25
clean license....winnner
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: cняis on 24 May 2012, 13:25
34 in a 30

anyone got done for going slower than that? :grin:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: cняis on 24 May 2012, 13:26
clean license....winnner

Licence stays clean if you take the course :wink:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: justalex81 on 24 May 2012, 13:31
clean license....winnner

Licence stays clean if you take the course :wink:

but you can't sit another speed awareness course for 3 years if you get done again  :wink:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Seanl on 24 May 2012, 15:59
clean license....winnner

Licence stays clean if you take the course :wink:

but you can't sit another speed awareness course for 3 years if you get done again  :wink:


This, I got caught doing 36 in a 30 in Bristol and sat the course. Got done about 3 months later in Bristol again  :rolleyes: both by mobile units but this time I was doin 69 in a 50 (ring road, some parts are 50 some are 70  :angry:) and wasn't. 3 points and £60 fine.  :sad:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Bandit127 on 24 May 2012, 17:41
98 on the M4 by Thames Valley Police.

Had I been doing 96 (or below) the copper would have been able to issue a fixed penalty. Over 96 and he has no choice - it goes to court. (That's what he said anyway).

Obviously no offer of a course... I got 5 points and a £225 fine.

Laser cameras do work at night by the way...  :cry:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Kerrse on 24 May 2012, 18:16
98 on the M4 by Thames Valley Police.

Had I been doing 96 (or below) the copper would have been able to issue a fixed penalty. Over 96 and he has no choice - it goes to court. (That's what he said anyway).

Obviously no offer of a course... I got 5 points and a £225 fine.

Laser cameras do work at night by the way...  :cry:

Could been worse if you had been 2 miles an hour faster 5 points is better than a ban
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: kodkod.84 on 24 May 2012, 18:57
58 in a 50 on the A149 in Norfolk- caught by a mobile camera which was in an average speed check zone (go figure!) If you're in Norfolk- they are held at UEA, lasts about 4 hours.

Funniest thing that morning was a blond girl who was late- she said she had to speed to get there, and she was being serious about that like it's an OK thing to do :)

Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: justalex81 on 24 May 2012, 19:19
58 in a 50 on the A149 in Norfolk- caught by a mobile camera which was in an average speed check zone (go figure!) If you're in Norfolk- they are held at UEA, lasts about 4 hours.

Funniest thing that morning was a blond girl who was late- she said she had to speed to get there, and she was being serious about that like it's an OK thing to do :)



yeah i put on facebook that i raced a porsche on my way to sit the course and all i got was abuse from the missus. it was only a joke  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: cняis on 24 May 2012, 19:50
Clean licence

I can't read nor write but I can understand these markings:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i3E9UL-CKNs/T0vzYtiGK0I/AAAAAAAAAG0/R2iCiAJzlJE/s1600/school_sign.jpg)
(http://lifeinsurancebyjeff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/term-life-insurance-30-thirty-year-old.jpg)

And why I should abide by them

Common sense applies yes, however we're not all squeaky-clean are we?  :wink:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Dean_W on 24 May 2012, 23:29
Cheers for the info peeps.  I'll let you know how it progresses.

i understand speeding.

but in a 30 i don't

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Mr GTD on 25 May 2012, 00:02
Are be very surprised if anyone got the option to take the course if it was your first offence, i think the awareness course is for repeat offenders...

Got caught by a fixed camera doing 38 in a 30 and got the fixed penalty notice with know option of course...it was back when I was 17 on a moped :laugh: and yes that was going down a slight hill  :laugh:

It's clean now and staying that way!
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: cняis on 25 May 2012, 00:59
Are be very surprised if anyone got the option to take the course if it was your first offence, i think the awareness course is for repeat offenders...

Got caught by a fixed camera doing 38 in a 30 and got the fixed penalty notice with know option of course...it was back when I was 17 on a moped :laugh: and yes that was going down a slight hill  :laugh:

It's clean now and staying that way!

Mine was first and only offence  :wink:

The course taught me 1 thing: slow down at known camera sites.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Seanl on 25 May 2012, 11:45
Are be very surprised if anyone got the option to take the course if it was your first offence, i think the awareness course is for repeat offenders...

Got caught by a fixed camera doing 38 in a 30 and got the fixed penalty notice with know option of course...it was back when I was 17 on a moped :laugh: and yes that was going down a slight hill  :laugh:

It's clean now and staying that way!


Mine was first and only offence  :wink:

The course taught me 1 thing: slow down at known camera sites.

me too.  :wink:
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Mr Blue on 25 May 2012, 11:52
I got done 36 in a 30 and was offered the course in the letter. Just had to confirm I wanted toe course and not the points.

P1ssed off that I got caught at 36 in a country lane speeding up to the national speed limit (camera guy was next to the national limit sign)  :rolleyes:

The course was an eye opener.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Uruk Hai on 25 May 2012, 17:39
The course can be offered after more than just one instance of speeding but for you to be offered it more than once there has to be at least 3 years since the last course or conviction.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 26 May 2012, 09:28
86 in a 60, no option for the course but 3 points and £60 fine, will be able to remove them next year though.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Gavv8 on 26 May 2012, 09:39
I don't think all policing areas offer the course, Devon and Cornwall don't but Somerset does.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Seanl on 26 May 2012, 09:44
Yeah when I got mine through Avon and Somerset, I had to travel up to the nearest place that did it which was Taunton.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 26 May 2012, 09:49
I don't think all policing areas offer the course, Devon and Cornwall don't but Somerset does.

I was caught along the Yeovil to Dorchester road, my own fault But I've leant my lesson. Been a good boy since.
Title: Re: Speed Awareness Courses
Post by: scarr89 on 26 May 2012, 11:24
I got done 36 in a 30 and was offered the course in the letter. Just had to confirm I wanted toe course and not the points.

P1ssed off that I got caught at 36 in a country lane speeding up to the national speed limit (camera guy was next to the national limit sign)  :rolleyes:

The course was an eye opener.

You think so? I learnt a few things, and made of aware of others. The course made me drive with less haste for about a day...Call me stupid or ignorant. I don't feel a 3 hour lecture will change anyone driving habits.