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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: xAntiVenxm on 19 May 2012, 23:39

Title: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: xAntiVenxm on 19 May 2012, 23:39
Just had the golf I bought recently put through an mot, few bits needs doing but nothing major reported by the garage. just wanting to confirm if the arches were rusting they'd pick up on that even if its under the plastic trims??
I'd imagine the sills would be picked up on, just by having so many cars fail due to sill rusting away.. but just wondering if the arches would be spotted during the test as well, just as you can't get under them without drilling out the pins??
No report of it from the garage, but never trusted a garage enough to not wonder..  :laugh:  :drool:
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: itavaltalainen on 19 May 2012, 23:54
What bits need drilling out please to remove the wheel plastic housing? The inner housing is bolted on the body/wings, there are only 2 or 3 clips and those you can just pull out and even re-use.... You'll have a lot of rotten leafs etc back there, always worth clearing out!

Rusted arches are not an MOT fail, unless the bottom end is through (but at that stage your sills will be as well)...
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Edwh0re on 20 May 2012, 08:57
I am assuming he means the plastic outer over arches, as in the gti style arch trim.

These are riveted on through the lip of the metal arch.

No garage is going to remove the rivets to inspect the arch condition on an mot, I have known of mk3's with absolutely hanging arches go through the mot with the rot hidden by the trims (one owner reattached his trim with velcro before the MOT!)
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 May 2012, 08:59
I am assuming he means the plastic outer over arches, as in the gti style arch trim.

These are riveted on through the lip of the metal arch.

No garage is going to remove the rivets to inspect the arch condition on an mot, I have known of mk3's with absolutely hanging arches go through the mot with the rot hidden by the trims (one owner reattached his trim with velcro before the MOT!)
Top tip!
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: xAntiVenxm on 20 May 2012, 12:22
I am assuming he means the plastic outer over arches, as in the gti style arch trim.

These are riveted on through the lip of the metal arch.

No garage is going to remove the rivets to inspect the arch condition on an mot, I have known of mk3's with absolutely hanging arches go through the mot with the rot hidden by the trims (one owner reattached his trim with velcro before the MOT!)
Top tip!

ROFL, ghetto fixes  :laugh:

That's what i mean, would be a ball ache to remove the rivets, i don't want to drill them out as i think for now i want to keep the trim.. there should be a way to remove the wheel arch cover and look at the arches from the inside, no? ill have a look at them that way.
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: mrsaunders on 20 May 2012, 13:12
just drill them out and use little self tapping screws
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: xAntiVenxm on 20 May 2012, 13:51
just drill them out and use little self tapping screws

will that work to keep the trims on? will any small ones from a hardware shop do?
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: mrsaunders on 20 May 2012, 15:27
don't see why not, some people glue them back on but cant remember what its called
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 May 2012, 15:36
I used small black self tappers and washers to put the rear ones back on, some use 'gripfill' type products but i thought there was too much of a gap between the trim and the arch to use this effectively, if you take the trims off and you have no rust i would leave them off as you are much less likely to have any problems in the future and it does seem to look tidier.
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Screech16v on 20 May 2012, 16:00
Just removed mine and showing minimal rust so going to leave them off,also fitted cl trims at the same time,doesnt look to bad  :smiley:
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Gavv8 on 20 May 2012, 16:32
Mine have some minor bubbling underneath, nothing too drastic but i'd rather leave them on until i can get it treated properly.
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: Edwh0re on 20 May 2012, 17:09
Riveter and rivets to put them back on really is not a costly purchase...

Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: GolfGL on 20 May 2012, 18:10
As above a rivet gun from machinemart will have a couple packs of rivets and prob cost a tenner.  So a worthwhile cheap investment
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: stainesy on 20 May 2012, 18:24
My plastic rear arches are not riveted on. They are on with black push in things. That I can pop out with a flathead screwdriver. They look standered like they are ment to be.
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: xAntiVenxm on 20 May 2012, 18:54
My plastic rear arches are not riveted on. They are on with black push in things. That I can pop out with a flathead screwdriver. They look standered like they are ment to be.

hmm, that sounds quite easy to take off and put back on, where did you get said "black push in things" lol, or did they come on your car that way?
Title: Re: Does Arch rust get picked up on MOT??
Post by: stainesy on 20 May 2012, 20:05
They were already on when I bought the car.