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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: JMallows on 16 May 2012, 19:47
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I have to take out the dash in a bit to fix a leak, and to renew sound proofing, and i thought that since i have the original matrix and no bypass valves etc i would replace it all at the same time, so i dont have to remove everything again if it goes etc...
Question is, i have to get some stuff from ECP anyway, just wondered if their matrices are any good, or is this something i should get from the stealers?
Thanks
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Got one from GSF last time, was a Valeo matrix which is the same manufacturer as the original but about a third of the price the stealers wanted to charge me iirc!
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Buy either the Valeo, or Behr units and nothing else! GSF do them, and usually ask wether you want the cheap of expensive item, go for the expensive! otherwise you'll be doing the job twice!
Thom
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http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_1.3_1988/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/heating/heater-matrix/?214440011&1&7fdf79d27201287fa14f0c896994593edffedb0c&000189
This is the only one listed on ECP which fits my reg no, could i put in a MK3 reg and see if it comes up with anything different? No GSF near me anymore...
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Thats a cheap and nasty one tbh and I wouldn't be overly confident with it. Considering its a dash out job thats will likely take you all day to do, I'd rather pay the little extra for postage for a branded one. (GSF are on ebay too!). I know us Corrado lot upgrade to the more sturdy mk3 matrix, so no doubt it will fit a mk2 as well. May give you more options on your search too.
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Thats a cheap and nasty one tbh and I wouldn't be overly confident with it. Considering its a dash out job thats will likely take you all day to do, I'd rather pay the little extra for postage for a branded one. (GSF are on ebay too!). I know us Corrado lot upgrade to the more sturdy mk3 matrix, so no doubt it will fit a mk2 as well. May give you more options on your search too.
Ditto, I believe that they are the ones that leak, and yes, you can use a mk3 item...
Thom
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GSF MK2/Mk3 one...
Its a Valeo on and costs about £50.00
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Cant see if its specific for mk2/3 but this is what it came up with for my reg:
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/parts/cooling-heating/heating-ventilation/heat-exchanger-for-interior-heating
or, in case that doesnt work:
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/178vg0041
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/178vg0040
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Thats a cheap and nasty one tbh and I wouldn't be overly confident with it. Considering its a dash out job thats will likely take you all day to do, I'd rather pay the little extra for postage for a branded one. (GSF are on ebay too!). I know us Corrado lot upgrade to the more sturdy mk3 matrix, so no doubt it will fit a mk2 as well. May give you more options on your search too.
since when was a mk2 matrix a dash out job :huh:
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Thats a cheap and nasty one tbh and I wouldn't be overly confident with it. Considering its a dash out job thats will likely take you all day to do, I'd rather pay the little extra for postage for a branded one. (GSF are on ebay too!). I know us Corrado lot upgrade to the more sturdy mk3 matrix, so no doubt it will fit a mk2 as well. May give you more options on your search too.
since when was a mk2 matrix a dash out job :huh:
Never.... :grin:
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Ok my bad, thought it was on a mk2. :tongue:
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From what i've read it can be done in, but is a lot easier out due to space etc... I am taking the dash out for other reasons, and thought that whilst it is out, it would make sense to remove a 24 year old part as a matter of precaution, as it would still entail taking half the dash out anyway to replace?
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From what i've read it can be done in, but is a lot easier out due to space etc... I am taking the dash out for other reasons, and thought that whilst it is out, it would make sense to remove a 24 year old part as a matter of precaution, as it would still entail taking half the dash out anyway to replace?
Problem like you said 24 years old, once you loose, break or forget clips screws etc sometimes the dash develops a squeek or rattle. If you are confident enough to remove a whole dash and put it back correctly then do it, but I would have thought the amount of times spent just taking a heater matrix out changing it would be enough for everyone DIYer?
One thing the gear stick selector make sure you remove all old grease and replace with nice grease you will be surprised at the amount of dust and dirt you find after 24 years! :wink:
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From what i've read it can be done in, but is a lot easier out due to space etc... I am taking the dash out for other reasons, and thought that whilst it is out, it would make sense to remove a 24 year old part as a matter of precaution, as it would still entail taking half the dash out anyway to replace?
Problem like you said 24 years old, once you loose, break or forget clips screws etc sometimes the dash develops a squeek or rattle. If you are confident enough to remove a whole dash and put it back correctly then do it, but I would have thought the amount of times spent just taking a heater matrix out changing it would be enough for everyone DIYer?
One thing the gear stick selector make sure you remove all old grease and replace with nice grease you will be surprised at the amount of dust and dirt you find after 24 years! :wink:
I have a leak somewhere behind the dash on the LHS, and its not the fresh air intake as thats definately sealed! I cant see where it is coming in becasue of the soundproofing, and i cant remove the soundproofing becasue of the dash! Hence, the dash is coming out... just whilst i have the dash out, thought i might as well replace the matrix. Not really sure if it NEEDS replacing, but i do want to do the foam on the metal plates with the holes in properly etc... thought it would make sense to do it whilst it was in bits?! Dont necessarily have to take the whole airbox out though do i?
If the dash wasnt coming out anyway, i wouldnt bother to do the matrix/foam on plates i dont think...
Gear stick selector? Like the ball etc where the gear stick goes in to the car?
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Well if there is still water coming in check the sunroof feeder plus the only other source is the bonnet latch cable stick some sealant into the rubber grommet that feeds it out of the bulk head.
Yes the balls and stick clean any grease and re grease them up.
The fresh air motor just twists off check for any calcuim powder lines its a good indication of water ingress!
I have to admit I still get the odd puddle in mine, but I think thats what drain holes on the floor plan are for :lipsrsealed:
One more thing the windscreen seal it might be worth getting something flat and small behind it, as mold does build up and push seals out for water to go down.
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Check your door membranes...
Thats what caused the puddle in mine last month...
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I have so far:
Replace door membranes, sealed the bonnet release cale, sealed the choke cable, checked the rear screen wash, sealed the fresh air intake (also removed fan motor to check). I cant see what else it COULD be, but the hope is when i get the dash out, it will become obvious!
Also, dont have a sunroof!
Did you put the drain holes in the floor!?
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do you park it on a slope?
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I'm more worried about the windscreen seal and bulk head hope its not rusted there!
No I didnt drill holes :laugh:
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Leaks whichever way i park - up or down! The most annoying thing is, we sat with a hosepipe, poured a lot of water and it was dry! Tried again, and it was very wet! Then we had a hell of a lot of rain, dry! Then a few days later, wet again! Its really annoying!
I will be checking for rust when its all out, though icant see any rust from the other side of the bulkhead/screen. I thought it might be the slightly rusty wiper hole, but poured a load of water through there - nothing!
The only thing i have seen on here is the inside of the wing being rusty, and letting water in like that. There is a small patch on the bit neasr the door hinges, that could have something to do with it, i will take a pic tomorrow and post it here
How did you get drain holes then??!
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try around your rear light clusters my old white one leaked from under them...
Check the condition of the door seal etc..
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Thought i would update this... Got dashboard out (pretty easy actually!) and could finally strip the soundproofing material out, to see where this leak was coming in. Turns out there is a hole in the same spot as the bonnet release cable, presumably for LHD cars. VW put a metal bit in there and pressed into place, and sealed it. Seems like after 24 years the seal was slightly weak, and let the occasional drip in. Sealed from the bonnet side, and all good! Never really noticed the metal plug there with all the waxoyl on top of it, and it looks like metal so assumed it was just a moulding shape or something, not a plug!
The hardest part was getting the dash back in with the wires in the right place! The switches have all gone back in the wrong order, i think i twisted the loom slightly, so the longer wires go through a different hole! The best bit is having it all back together! Started this around February when i removed the carpet, seats (except drivers) and most of the dash, and i've been driving it like that for months!
Hope it helps with future leak proofing?!
Quick pic, but cant see the metal plug :rolleyes:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d120/jmallows/DSC05763Panoramae-mail.jpg)