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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: bmouthboyo on 15 May 2012, 08:36

Title: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 15 May 2012, 08:36

High Guys,

Sorry for the untechnical terminology here I just wanted to check what this issue may be. My RDS shock seems to have a fault as the rod part that you can see under the rubber cap inside the boot as pushed up really high and knocked the parcel shelf side support off!

When driving it has a constant rattle when going over bumps from what I think is the washer and constantly sits very high, going even higher when driving.

I thought maybe the susspension spring has gone but cannot really look untill the weekend. Anyone know what this is more than likely? The shocks were replaced about 3 years ago. What would cause the shaft to push constantly high?

Thanks

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: Wayne on 15 May 2012, 09:29

I think from memory they have a circlip at the top, sounds like that is broken.

Whatever happens park it up for now.

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: stainesy on 15 May 2012, 09:32

Sounds like your top mount has failed mate. By the sounds of it your rod has pushed its way throught the top mount. So you will be just sitting on the coil spring with no damping. The rattle is probably the the rod flapping about. Needs sorting ASAP and I wouldn't drive it like that  :shocked:

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: liva2704 on 15 May 2012, 10:20

Yeah its defo the circlip thats broke,same thing happened to me a while back.

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 15 May 2012, 10:42

Bummer! Easy job to fix? Will I have to remove the shock etc?

What number on this diagram would the circlip be?

(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/rearsusp.jpg)

Cheers

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: Dogbot on 15 May 2012, 11:07

17 on your first picture

&

21 on this new picture...........

What do  i win??.......  :grin:

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: liva2704 on 15 May 2012, 11:56

And yes you have to take the shock absorber off the car,not hard job though if everything goes to plan.

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 15 May 2012, 14:13

So the entire weight of the car bears down on these circlips? :shocked:

Can I purchase this circlip anywhere online?

Tha part number appears to be: 8D0 512 097. I found VW Heritage sells them as snap rings:

http://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Snap-ring_act_shop.product_pID_48231431_lang_EN_country_GB.htm (http://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Snap-ring_act_shop.product_pID_48231431_lang_EN_country_GB.htm)

Would this be suitable?

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: stainesy on 15 May 2012, 14:32

So does all rear shocks have these? Or is it just the ones he has? Didn't see a circlip when removing my shocks and putting my coilys on or is this a diferant shock?

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: GTIANNIVERSARY16V on 15 May 2012, 15:03

Yep number 21 mate, happened to me.
Bought some boge shocks....uncle fitted them (hes a hgv mechanic) he couldn't understand what was going on......then he realised when comparing them to the old shocks.
You have to order them seperatly apparently, i took my car to an ATS kind of place, they put them on for me....and my cars rear sits lower to the ground now....feck knows what they did, i just got really pissed off with it all. You order shocks, i expect all the bleeding parts to be included!!!!!

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: GTIANNIVERSARY16V on 15 May 2012, 15:05

I think coil overs work different...but im no expert :S

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: Dogbot on 15 May 2012, 15:20

only slightly different where the top cap has a recessed seat for the shock leg to stop it going through.....

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: stainesy on 15 May 2012, 15:40

Ah right so coilys don't need the circlip then?
That's why I assumed his top mount had failed as I have alway just taken off standered setup and bunged coilys on   :rolleyes:My bad  :grin:

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: Dogbot on 15 May 2012, 17:04

nope coilies dont have the circlip......

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 16 May 2012, 08:32

Does the circlip just slip over the top? If so do you have yours spare stainesy from your old ones?

Cheers

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: stainesy on 16 May 2012, 09:18

Sorry fella iv sold my old suspension now mate. If you would have asked yesterday I would have had it for you mate.

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 20 May 2012, 18:31

OK so I ordered the cirlip but wow they look small. Before dismantling the shocks just wanted to check it isnt something more serious:

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/bossman187uk/DSC_0130.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/bossman187uk/DSC_0129.jpg)

The bit I am holding in the second pic seems to have corroded around the middle circumference.

Do I just remove the shock from car, slide new circlip over top and refit?

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: bmouthboyo on 25 May 2012, 12:23

Can anyone tell me do i need to fully remove the shock or will jacking alone give enough clearance to slip the circlip on?

Title: Re: Rear Shock - Shaft pushing through very high
Post by: stainesy on 25 May 2012, 13:36

Just try jacking it up and find out mate. Don't jack the rear up on the beam tho as if you do it on the frame instead you will get more swing down of the beam. If you stick the rear on axle stands ur not on the beam you may have a chance as beam will swing down lower.