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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Mr_Ed_35 on 02 May 2012, 14:47
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I know i've probably just 'missed the boat' or I'm just being naive or something, but please can someone explain what exactly re-mapping is and how it could benefit me if I chose to have it done to my soon to arrive Ed35?
Ta very much
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In simple terms - more power = Bigger grin :cool:
It involves re-writing the program on you ECU and increases the engine parameters to give you more BHP and torque
If the ED35 engine is like the ED30 engine (not up to speed on the newer engine) then you could see increases of 60bhp + taking the car upto approx 300bhp
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I know i've probably just 'missed the boat' or I'm just being naive or something, but please can someone explain what exactly re-mapping is and how it could benefit me if I chose to have it done to my soon to arrive Ed35?
Ta very much
I have my GTI mapped, I will only get it removed when I sell it, it makes the car feel proper quick. Mapping the ED35 will make it feel proper proper quick...
Jim
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Ok so what sort of improvement am I likely to see in terms of 0-62 acceleration times (standard as you know = 6.6secs) and what sort of cost am I looking at?
Thanks
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Fek the 0 to 60 times! Get it done, you won't regret it :evil:
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http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?make=38&fueltype=3&model=159&variant=1743
I know this is for an ED30, but it should give you an idea.
I like Superchips and have used them for years and never had an issues with them. There may well be tuners that offer bigger numbers, but Superchips have been doing this since the dawn of time.
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not driven a 35 but on the GTI a remap is a must IMO
Really wakes the car up, sounds better, MPG not affected and just makes the car much more fun to drive
i would 100% recommend bluefin as you can remove it as and when you want, its smooth power like OEM (though revo gives bigger numbers i prefer the OEM drivability and smoothness bluefin gives), if you buy another car bluefin compatible you can reuse the handset on the new car for a small fee, the handset can be used to fully immobilise the car (if you go on holiday and are worried about it getting stolen etc) and it leaves no flash count on the ECU if you auto scan and erase the error codes.
i tried my car back on stock map and i was amazed how slow it felt!
for £400 its a bargain IMO.
on the ed 35 the gains would be even better with the larger turbo
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Fek the 0 to 60 times! Get it done, you won't regret it :evil:
Exactly - how many traffic light races do you participate in?
It's all about the mid-range punch :cool:
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Ok so what sort of improvement am I likely to see in terms of 0-62 acceleration times (standard as you know = 6.6secs) and what sort of cost am I looking at?
Thanks
0-60 tbh you're not going to see a huge improvement as it's easier to spin the wheels. At best I reckon a map would drop you to sub-6 seconds if you could get the power down.
In terms of outright measurable performance gains a simple remap took my own (standard not Ed. 35) GTI from a 14.5 1/4 mile to a 13.6 1/4 mile.
The benefit of the remap however is on the road. The car is so much stronger. I'd hesitate to use the word better as the standard GTI was really quite good but with a map the car pulls consistently and strongly in each gear. Standard the power delivery felt quite linear and flat throughout the gears, with a barely noticeable pull/push in the back as the car slotted into each new gear. Now whenever I flick up the gears I get a very noticeable push in the back.
It's also great fun to just leave it in 6th everywhere. :smiley:
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with the standard GTI at 5000rpm the power just tails off until the rev limiter
with a remap it keeps pulling past 6500rpm without the drop off
and ed35 probably won't tail off as its got the bigger turbo so will be pretty savage in the higher rpm's
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i was quite impressed with the stock power delivery on the Ed35 and can see why some owners want no more, if you are used to driving a mapped car then you notice it lacks in the mid range
loads of forum banter about aggressive and smoothness between the various companies and end of the day its what you want out of the car
my Ed35 was mapped with the production file yesterday by Revo (and there is an Ed35 is in today for stage 2) and its not just the usual K04 code slapped on the car so i wouldn't read too much into the smoothness debate given i am doing some back to back runs in the Stage 1 Pirelli to given them some constructive feedback next week
JKM have a stonking offer on BF at the moment, who knows if they have had a UK car in for calibration (APR have) you just need to make sure you have the right map from them if running dsg
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with the standard GTI at 5000rpm the power just tails off until the rev limiter
with a remap it keeps pulling past 6500rpm without the drop off
and ed35 probably won't tail off as its got the bigger turbo so will be pretty savage in the higher rpm's
I must get mine looked at as mine does not do that. As there's noticable steps in power delivery at 3 then 4 then it really picks up at 5 and goes better and better to 6.5 also its louder than yours.
Your mapped car goes better most noticed in 2nd but is far more smoother and linear which is one of the things I really liked about yours.
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Ok so what sort of improvement am I likely to see in terms of 0-62 acceleration times (standard as you know = 6.6secs) and what sort of cost am I looking at?
Thanks
You won't see much improvement at all in 0-62 times as you can't get the power down with just front wheel drive. But 0-62 times aren't the only way to judge performance.
Personally I wouldn't have a car remapped, but it's up to you if you want to void your warranty. Don't forget to inform your insurers as well otherwise you won't be covered if they find out.
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with the standard GTI at 5000rpm the power just tails off until the rev limiter
with a remap it keeps pulling past 6500rpm without the drop off
and ed35 probably won't tail off as its got the bigger turbo so will be pretty savage in the higher rpm's
I must get mine looked at as mine does not do that. As there's noticable steps in power delivery at 3 then 4 then it really picks up at 5 and goes better and better to 6.5 also its louder than yours.
Your mapped car goes better most noticed in 2nd but is far more smoother and linear which is one of the things I really liked about yours.
that does sound strange as mine defiantly didn't have so many steps in the power.
there was a definite noticeable step at around 4000rpm but then above 5000 it seemed to have already given its best and anything more was a waste of time (almost diesel like) and the power just seemed to steadily tail off
it feels like the waste gate opening to easily and wasting the boost IMO on standard map
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Go for it, a remap will make the car feel much smoother and more responsive. I have APR on my 35 and love it. Chat to the guys at Awesome Gti as they are APR agents in the UK :cool:
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I had mine remapped (Bluefin) in December. I wouldn't go back to the standard map unless I am taking the car for a service.
I think Superchip did a wonderful job giving the GTI a bit more midrange without worsening torque steer in the 'wet'!
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im not even changing mine back for service. i told the dealers and they didn't seem bothered
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I've actually been very impressed with how capable the standard car is at dealing with the extra power and torque. It definitely feels as if VW designed the chassis with more than 210hp in mind.
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im not even changing mine back for service. i told the dealers and they didn't seem bothered
this is the attitude my local preferred vw garage have, i turn it off to deter the test pilots, lets be honest if you have a shed load of other mods on the car if you were betting man you'd put a fiver on it being mapped
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im not even changing mine back for service. i told the dealers and they didn't seem bothered
this is the attitude my local preferred vw garage have, i turn it off to deter the test pilots, lets be honest if you have a shed load of other mods on the car if you were betting man you'd put a fiver on it being mapped
The relevance of any modification (be it remapping or even changing the light bulbs) only arises when the modification is directly responsible for the accelerated wear or failure of a component.
My car has been in for stitching having come undone (unless you want to argue that's down to increased forces of acceleration unweaving the threads :laugh:), rubber door seals, a creaky drivers seat (same argument I suppose), a creaky boot lid and then the usual consumables (services, brakes etc). There have been a couple of items related to the engine which have required a little look but none of these have been directly attributable to the remap.
From my own experience I'd still take a standard GTI over any other hot hatch on offer just now - it just ticks all the boxes that I want to tick and in the order that I'd tick them - but a remap is definitely something I'd recommend. It has transformed my car and made it really feel like the hot-hatch I've always imagined the GTI to be.
Side by side a remapped car will be quicker than the standard but for me it's more about the sensation inside the cabin. The standard car in my opinion feels really flat and you need to wind the engine all the way up in order to get the performance. The mapped car by comparison is an anywhere-anytime kind of performer. It doesn't matter what gear or what rev-range you are in. There's just power!
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For me i think a remap is a must, it just pulls so much better and gives you effortless speed,
My car has been back to the dealers a couple of times for warranty issues, most recently for a water pump, aux pump and belts. My dealer hasn't a problem with all the mods on mine :smiley:
and the K04 on yours will give so much more grunt in mid to top range than the K03 :wink:
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Hi all, it was my ed35 at revo on wednesday having stage 2 after the miltek was fitted, u must get your ed35 to revo u will not believe how much of a difference the map has made, the throttle response is spot on it just wants to rip! And with the race exhaust sounds amazing. I'm going to make some good vids keep a eye on utube chunkbs4
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Fek the 0 to 60 times! Get it done, you won't regret it :evil:
He speak the truth ^^^^^ :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Check out my new vid on utube, chunkbs4
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Check out my new vid on utube, chunkbs4
Was going to slap you on the wrist for the "Roundabout fun" vid but then thought... hang on, cause I've never driven my GTI in a way that others might consider questionable :rolleyes: :embarassed: :laugh:
Looks a nice Edition 35.
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:grin: I drive it very hard at times Inc few sideways moments. More vids to come Inc tunnel blasts top speed runs and maybe a couple police chases :cool:
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be careful what you post on youtube, we had a member a couple of years ago had his license taken off him for such antics..
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That's why I haven't put the others up lol thanks tho I will post carefully
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Also note that the forum cannot encourage any form of illegal driving so don't expect the forum opinion of your actions to be very favourable (although it has been said before that owning performance cars we all partake in some form of enthusiastic driving).
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Liked the video...not sure about the kids being near the road.... :shocked:
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Thank u the phone don't pick up the pops and sound very well tho, they were some local gypsys hanging around lol
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Nice ED35 and I bet it is very quick with the stage 2, however I think the vids of driving round town like that are not particularly clever :shocked: don't get me wrong I drive my car hard too but not in a 30 limit, I know you are only having fun, so just keep it safe eh fella.
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It's out the way in a safe spot, thanks I think it's rapid just waiting for the intake
And fuel pump to run stage 2+
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Have I missed something? how do I view the clips that everyone's talking about?
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Chunkbs4 on utube m8
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Chunkbs4 on utube m8
Ta dude, will have a look...
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Chunkbs4 on utube m8
Ta dude, will have a look...
I think what the kid(s) said sum'd it up............Flashy!!!
And as a dad i wud have to say tut tut not cool i mean we all like a bit of speed but not when the kids are so close....
I know it's been said but be careful of what you post!! :wink: and are say to you what my little one says to me everytime I leave the house ''Be careful'' well she puts daddy at the end of that but you get what I mean :wink: