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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 12:41

Title: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 12:41
car : Golf mk4 GTi 1.8 20VT
The Problem: The car feels like the steering isnt attached! if i hold the steering wheel in the middle the car floats about the road. The car will always pull to the left but the steering wheel will sit to the right.
I've been under some investigation and im putting it down to bushes right now. I've noticed that the front wishbone rear bushes are quite worn, and theres movement in the wishbone if the steering wheel is jerked left to right.

Would this be causing my steering problem? Also got on order a new steering rack bush.

Any help appreciated!! :)
Title: Re: Need some brain power!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 12:50
i have all new poly bushes through out and mine did it before and still does it now even with almost every part replaced  :smiley:
Title: Re: Need some brain power!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 12:54
Well that doesnt sound to pleasing :P Its quite scary at like 70mph+

Could it be the rack then?
Title: Re: Need some brain power!
Post by: madmanmart on 30 April 2012, 12:56
Sounds like you need your tracking doing too.
Title: Re: Need some brain power!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 12:58
tracking has just been done on mine when i purchased new tyres well i say done they said it was spot on so couldnt justify touching it as there was nothing to do  :grin: but it is much better than it was with the new tyres
there was summat on here before about the pulling to the left sure someone found what it was  :undecided:
Title: Re: Need some brain power!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 13:03
Yeah been reading there here and UK-mkivs.net and cant seem to find a solid answer. :huh:
Going to change the bushes and get it tracked thursday and see if it makes any difference.

My tyre size is 255/45/17 would that be making much inconvenience?
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: xxChrisxx on 30 April 2012, 16:52
It's a handling 'feature' of the car. It's extremely sensitive to camber, so will just tramline without warning.

The steering wheel should sit dead straight though, so it sounds as though it's been tracked up with the wheel not centred.
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 17:04
Right ok i'll get it tracked and replace the bushed that i've ordered anyway and see what happens,

But on the thought, would the movement in the wishbone cause any affect to steering?

Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: xxChrisxx on 30 April 2012, 17:09
Right ok i'll get it tracked and replace the bushed that i've ordered anyway and see what happens,
But on the thought, would the movement in the wishbone cause any affect to steering?

Any movement in any component (that isn't supposed to move) that connects the chassis and steering wheel to the road will cause some slack in the steering. The degree that it affects it is likely to be very small.

You could replace everything, the car will still do it, as they did it from new. The car just has sh!t handling.
If you take it to somewhere that is snooker table flat, you'll find it doesn't pull at all.
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 17:12
Oh Fair enough :) Thanks for the answer! been waiting to find a response for a while! Spot on  :wink:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 17:18
while the subject is open  :grin: will the steering rack bush make a difference cos if it does im gonna change mine as got a slight bit of play
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 17:35
+1 would like to see an answer too!  just order a Pflex one  :cool:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 17:36
yeah will have a look into it i got all superpro at the moment so may just go for the same its an ocd thing  :laugh:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 17:39
Let me know what you come up with  :grin:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 17:41
this any good  :grin: is this even the right part i need can someone confirm  :smiley:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk4-Powerflex-Steering-Rack-Bush-PFF85-416-/110826735221?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19cdc9c675
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Golf-Mk4-Audi-A3-Octavia-Leon-SuperPro-Steering-Rack-Bush-Kit-/330718743547?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d005f8bfb
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 17:46
Cant see it atm mate because on work computers!  :sick:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: richw911 on 30 April 2012, 17:55
Normal for a Mk4 surely  :huh:














 :grin:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 17:56
 :grin: oh yes

is that the right bush there rich  :smiley:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: richw911 on 30 April 2012, 17:58
:grin: oh yes

is that the right bush there rich  :smiley:

Looks to be the correct one yes  :smiley:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 18:00
How easy is it to actually change the bush?  :nerd:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: cullygti on 30 April 2012, 18:01
:grin: oh yes

is that the right bush there rich  :smiley:

Looks to be the correct one yes  :smiley:
your a gem cheers  :smiley:
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: richw911 on 30 April 2012, 18:05
How easy is it to actually change the bush?  :nerd:

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/245789.aspx?PageIndex=1
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 18:08
Man with the plan  :wink: Cheers!
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: dan2252 on 30 April 2012, 18:10
after my car doing the exact same your on about with your car i thought straight away bushes.. then heard a loud twang and steering just dove to onside jacked it up to find no nearside bolt in the front of the bottom arm   :shocked: could not belive it! luckly didnt do any damage.. only happend last week would of had a look sooner but all the recent rain made me not do!!
Title: Re: Loose Scary Steering!
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 30 April 2012, 18:14
Well i know what im checking when i get home then!!  :shocked: