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Title: what estate
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 April 2012, 10:19: thinking about chopping in the mk4 for an estate car, any suggestions? NOT a mk4 estate :grin: around the 4k mark would be nice
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Post by: barrym381 on 28 April 2012, 10:22: a4 avant or bmw 330d :smiley:
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Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 10:53: vectra :evil:
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Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 10:55: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-SKODA-OCTAVIA-ELEGANCE-1-9-TDI-PD-DIESEL-ESTATE-GREY-/110867870998?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19d03d7516#ht_1945wt_1263
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Post by: Gavv8 on 28 April 2012, 11:01: Bmw 3 series, friend of mine at work just changed from an A6 avant to a very nice 320d estate and it looks and drives very nice indeed.
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Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 April 2012, 11:23: have to say i am very tempted by a e46 320d. Seem very reliable except for wishbone bushes which is negligible coming from a mk4!

that skoda is quite cheap though for a newish car!
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: DubFan on 28 April 2012, 13:27: My Octavia is just like that one ^.
It's a very good car, Golf chassis, VW engines and build quality. The estate has more luggage space and rear legroom than a Audi A4 Avant.
Mine was £5600 for an 07 plate with 40k with the 1.6 FSI engine (cheap tax and very economical). Spec level is good too.
I might have to sell mine in order to get an automatic (if the wife passes her test in an auto).

Can definitely recommend the Octavia.
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 16:34: well heres a few

you havent said diesel, but i am guessing so

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530D-M-Sport-touring-/170826042562?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27c6068cc2#ht_1339wt_1263

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-JAGUAR-X-TYPE-SPORT-D-BLUE-ESTATE-/280865551902?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4164e4361e#ht_500wt_1284

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-06-Volkswagen-Passat-1-9TDi-S-Estate-NEW-SHAPE-116K-FSH-/230779584771?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35bb890103#ht_1448wt_1263

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-MG-MGF-ZT-CDTi-Estate-1951cc-Diesel-/180870534792?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a1cb95688#ht_1119wt_1263

:grin:
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 April 2012, 16:38: this would be my choice

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-330D-DIESEL-SE-2002-AUTOMATIC-BLUE-LEATHER-FSH-ESTATE-TOURING-/261002956204?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc4fd0dac#ht_1216wt_1218

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280859532223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1357wt_1218
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Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 16:39: often overlooked and a good motor

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Accord-I-Ctdi-Executive-Tourer-DIESEL-2004-54-/220991842204?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item337423e79c#ht_1317wt_1263
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Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 16:41: :lipsrsealed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUPERB-EXAMPLE-6-SPEED-150-BHP-ESTATE-/200733033603?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2ebc9f0483#ht_1058wt_1263
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 16:43: GM underneath

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-56-SAAB-9-3-93-VECTOR-SPORTWAGON-1-9-tid-150bhp-diesel-inc-private-plate-/110858496193?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19cfae68c1#ht_500wt_1284
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: JC on 28 April 2012, 16:43: a bit of italian in your life

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-55-ALFA-ROMEO-156-1-9-JTD-DIESEL-SPORTSWAGON-ESTATE-140-BHP-VELOCE-/270962671900?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f16a2411c#ht_3973wt_1263
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 April 2012, 17:07: just did a quick confused.com and the 330d is £1 cheaper to insure than the 320d :huh: :laugh: wtf

that alfa is the best looking though!
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Post by: DOA on 28 April 2012, 17:10: Just answered this question myself with an e36 330d Sport. Dont bother with the 320 unless your anal about fuel consumption, they dont have enough beans but the 330 is quick enough to be interesting. Try and go for the 2003 onwards model with the 6 speed box if you can find one (I took 3 months looking and still didnt get the spec I really wanted, plumping for an earlier post-facelift one instead) as they have more oomph and MUCH better spaced gears for the same economy. FWIW I appear to be getting around 35MPG.
The only warning I have is that the boot really isnt any bigger than a mk2 Gti's! Oh and dont be put of by mileage, they have all been to the moon and back or are at prices that will make you look at an E92 instead. Things to look out for are broken rear springs, swirl flaps in the intake (going to remove mine shortly) and the usual wishbone issues that all BMW's seem to suffer from. Only problem I have found is that Im already looking at upgrading the suspension as its a heavy old beast and has more roll than I like but Im sure a bit of Bilstein B12 action and some ARB's will sort it while improving the ride at the same time :smiley:. I also have plans to pop over to R-tech to see what they can do to get it up to/above later spec oomph as they are only down the road :evil:.
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 April 2012, 17:24: 35mpg isn't enough tbh, i'm doing 360 miles a week just in the commute! I'm happy with the performance/economy level of the pd150, its just the chassis is a bit sh!t so i reckon a 320d will be ideal for me, with maybe a cheeky remap!

the boot must be significantly longer than a hatchbacks though!?
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: DubFan on 28 April 2012, 17:35: Boot capacity was something I was looking at:
Octavia Estate: 580 litres
BMW 3series : 435 litres
Golf Mk5 Estate: 505 litres
Passat Estate: 513 litres
Audi A4 Avant: 442 litres

The Octavia's boot is deep and goes lower than the bumper, even with a full size spare.

As for economy, my 1.6 FSI petrol engine can manage to get 42mpg ish quite easily and it's not too much of a slouch driving around either.
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Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 28 April 2012, 17:50: Surprised someone hasn't come in with the usual "use the search function" riposte, the amount of times this topic has come up.

:rolleyes:
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Post by: clipperjay on 28 April 2012, 17:54: SAAB should be cheap as hell by now :laugh:
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Post by: Gavv8 on 28 April 2012, 18:38: Quote from: Chuff on 28 April 2012, 16:39
often overlooked and a good motor

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Accord-I-Ctdi-Executive-Tourer-DIESEL-2004-54-/220991842204?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item337423e79c#ht_1317wt_1263

My brother-in-law had one of these was a lovely car and bl00dy rapid too although the parts and servicing were astronomical.
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: DOA on 29 April 2012, 16:31: Quote from: veedubgti16v on 28 April 2012, 17:24
the boot must be significantly longer than a hatchbacks though!?

Trust me, its tiny for an estate! Dont forget the roof is pretty low, the tail is more like that of a hatchback and there is a lack of depth due to the diff. Dont think I could hack the slowness of the 320d, its even slower than a B5 passat 130 judging by the figures on Parkers and they are too slow for my liking but if economy is your thing then fair play. They are certainly very nice cars!
Title: Re: what estate
Post by: bodga on 29 April 2012, 17:38: The ultimate estate:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/volvo/v70/radius/1500/sort/default/fuel-type/diesel/transmission/manual/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles

good enough for smithy :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdg7Tgv5lo0&feature=fvsr
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Post by: clipperjay on 29 April 2012, 17:52: Quote from: clipperjay on 28 April 2012, 17:54
SAAB should be cheap as hell by now :laugh:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-5-2004-54-/300699960240?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item46031d43b0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-5-2004-54-/300699960240?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item46031d43b0)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-bhp-2002-SAAB-9-5-AERO-AUTO-SILVER-superb-condition-FSH-m3-rs-no-reserve-/280871694246?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item416541efa6 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-bhp-2002-SAAB-9-5-AERO-AUTO-SILVER-superb-condition-FSH-m3-rs-no-reserve-/280871694246?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item416541efa6)