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Title: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: s-l-i-x on 26 April 2012, 17:11
I have my MOT this month, and have 'slight' tyre protrude from the rear. How anal are they about this?

Its only about 8mm or so but ive included pics.

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9704/img3681xt.jpg)

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5355/img3682or.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: wretch20vt on 26 April 2012, 17:25
no mate as long as the tread is under the arch.
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: Chris#101 on 26 April 2012, 18:23
Cant help you with it being a failure or not

but does that not rub like a good'n???
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: s-l-i-x on 26 April 2012, 18:27
Cant help you with it being a failure or not

but does that not rub like a good'n???

Nope  :smiley: strictly no fatties allowed in my car  :grin:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: barrym381 on 26 April 2012, 18:28
dont think it will pass mate have you got spacers on already  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: s-l-i-x on 26 April 2012, 18:32
dont think it will pass mate have you got spacers on already  :smiley:

Yeah 20mm on the back. Can take them off, was just wondering if I could get away with it as its only a small amount, but some mot testers are anal about things like this..
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: barrym381 on 26 April 2012, 18:35
dont think it will pass mate have you got spacers on already  :smiley:

Yeah 20mm on the back. Can take them off, was just wondering if I could get away with it as its only a small amount, but some mot testers are anal about things like this..
i would just whip them off save any trouble with mot  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: daz veedub on 26 April 2012, 18:35
i had 20mm on rear with no m.o.t problems  :wink:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: houston on 26 April 2012, 19:21
as long as tread is covered then its a pass, but some can be arses and sy its a dangerous modification. for the sake of whipping a spacer off then id do it, saves the hassle of a re test
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: km on 26 April 2012, 19:51
my front wheels stick out a fair bit to clear my brakes, the mot bloke said it was fine, because they're not in contact/rubbing :grin:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 April 2012, 22:23
all down to testers discretion really
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: s-l-i-x on 26 April 2012, 22:28
Okay a bit of mixed responses, but I think i'll take them off as for the sake of £25 squid.
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 26 April 2012, 22:34
all down to testers discretion really

Surely this is wrong. Surely there is a set of regulations that must be followed, like the whole tread being under the arch, if so then it should pass regardless...right?!
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 26 April 2012, 23:08
all down to testers discretion really

Surely this is wrong. Surely there is a set of regulations that must be followed, like the whole tread being under the arch, if so then it should pass regardless...right?!

i know some people who will fail you on having something dangling from rear view mirror.
then again i know places where you dont need a cat...

depends on the tester.

Hell bobbarley got an advisory for being lowered

Testers should all have a set standard and follow it. This sh!t would enrage me if I failed cause of spacers when it was totally legal.
Okay a bit of mixed responses, but I think i'll take them off as for the sake of £25 squid.

Why for the sake of £25, keep em on and if he fails you tell him that they are totally legal. If he fails your car for it then you have atleast 24 for a free re test.
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: cullygti on 26 April 2012, 23:20
bloody hell as the re test changed now as it used to be 10 days round here and its who you know not what you know in some cases  :wink:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: barrym381 on 26 April 2012, 23:28
all down to testers discretion really

Surely this is wrong. Surely there is a set of regulations that must be followed, like the whole tread being under the arch, if so then it should pass regardless...right?!

i know some people who will fail you on having something dangling from rear view mirror.
then again i know places where you dont need a cat...

depends on the tester.

Hell bobbarley got an advisory for being lowered

Testers should all have a set standard and follow it. This sh!t would enrage me if I failed cause of spacers when it was totally legal.
Okay a bit of mixed responses, but I think i'll take them off as for the sake of £25 squid.

Why for the sake of £25, keep em on and if he fails you tell him that they are totally legal. If he fails your car for it then you have atleast 24 for a free re test.
spacers may be legal but ask a copper if the ops car is legal an the answer should  be no
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 26 April 2012, 23:35
^^

Ask if the origianl posters car is legal? Why? What does that have to do with tyre poke? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: cullygti on 26 April 2012, 23:42
because a copper will always say no just to be an arse
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: barrym381 on 26 April 2012, 23:49
^^

Ask if the origianl posters car is legal? Why? What does that have to do with tyre poke? Am I missing something?
well if its not legal the op could end up with points on his licence
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: dan2252 on 26 April 2012, 23:53
 if its not fowling the body or anything and no visual tread poking out which you havent it'll be fine
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: Wayne on 27 April 2012, 00:10
Just remove them to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: nolandubholmes on 27 April 2012, 07:26
It is not a fail I am a tester HOLM0095 is my I'd if u want to check with vosa there is no specific RFR on the vosa computer that u can pick for a tyre poking through the arches it falls under construction and use which is the police in fact il specifically start a thread for people that need to know more about an MOT ud be amazed with what isn't and what is illegal and this tester discretion no such thing it's a list of rules u must follow not make up urself il take a pic of the page on the vosa computer today of the rules of road wheels and Tyres And upload it asap
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 27 April 2012, 10:39
Just remove them to be on the safe side.

The point I'm trying to make is why should you if you SHOULDN'T have to as there is no illegality in having wheel spacers...See where I'm coming from?
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: houston on 27 April 2012, 18:19
Just remove them to be on the safe side.

The point I'm trying to make is why should you if you SHOULDN'T have to as there is no illegality in having wheel spacers...See where I'm coming from?
theres no dispute on the legality of spacers, however the wheel stick past the arch can be classed as a dangerous modification, by mot tester AND the police! if they want to be strict
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 27 April 2012, 18:50
The police are a different matter. But if X MOT tester feels it unsafe compared to Y MOT tester then surely one of them wrong. If a wheel 'pokes' due to spacers it should either be dangerous or not to ANY MOT tester.  :angry:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: Wazzzer on 27 April 2012, 19:43
The police are a different matter. But if X MOT tester feels it unsafe compared to Y MOT tester then surely one of them wrong. If a wheel 'pokes' due to spacers it should either be dangerous or not to ANY MOT tester.  :angry:

Totally agree with you mate. It's the same for exhaust volume, what one MOT tester would fail another will happily pass
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: nolandubholmes on 27 April 2012, 20:31
U cannot fail a car for the wheels poking !!!!!! Listen to me there's no criteria on the computer to fail it I AM A TESTER !!! It's not classed as a sharp edge nothing the police can an MOT tester can't !!!
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 27 April 2012, 20:39
U cannot fail a car for the wheels poking !!!!!! Listen to me there's no criteria on the computer to fail it I AM A TESTER !!! It's not classed as a sharp edge nothing the police can an MOT tester can't !!!

We have gotten the message. It just frustrates me that there seems to some what of a double standard...and I'm having a moan about it  :angry: :grin:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: golf-sib on 27 April 2012, 20:52
Tom, keep them on just bring vaseline just incase with tyre foam to seal your new size ass  :wink: :grin: :kiss:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: dan2252 on 29 April 2012, 02:24
same for tyres isnt it? mot wise you have to have so much of the tread? but by police any baldness and its 3 points ?
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: golf-sib on 29 April 2012, 10:02
same for tyres isnt it? mot wise you have to have so much of the tread? but by police any baldness and its 3 points ?

Legally and MOT wise its 1.6mm of tread any less and its a failure by MOT center, with police its 3points and fine per wheel. If the MOT center is allowing bald tires he should be shot.

There was an interesting article in an Australian car magazine. As I believe there's is either the same or similar of 1.6mm, but they was saying by law 3.0mm would be safer and should be changed, they did road tests between 1.6 and 3.0mm tread and the difference was huge in the wet and aquaplaning situations. Now imagine how much at risk you are with bald tires in wet conditions... hence why 1.6mm is the lowest they like to see.
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: nolandubholmes on 29 April 2012, 11:18
Yeah tread wise it's 1.6mm in the centre 75% so ur edges could be bald but if the centre isn't its a p/a as far as the police is concerned I think they say what they want !!!!
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: Xtrhardcore on 01 May 2012, 13:19
Its gotta be 1.6mm over 3/4 of the Tyre  :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: s-l-i-x on 15 May 2012, 15:33
Well she passed  :smiley:

No mention of wheels coming out of the arch so all good!
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: golf-sib on 15 May 2012, 17:00
Well she passed  :smiley:

No mention of wheels coming out of the arch so all good!

So when's the nurburgring trip?
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: scarr89 on 15 May 2012, 17:06
Well she passed  :smiley:

No mention of wheels coming out of the arch so all good!

Glad you didn't remove them for it! Nice one chap! :smiley:
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: nolandubholmes on 15 May 2012, 21:47
Told you they wouldn't fail
Title: Re: Tyre Poke an MOT failure?
Post by: madhead1987 on 15 May 2012, 21:50
+1 on the above