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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: trez on 18 April 2012, 12:07
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Hi Guys
I am just wondering if anyone would be interested in Oil catch can kits for the 1.8T engines.
I am finalising the kit for my car and looking to install shortly.
Please see link below for advice on the set up.
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/269734.aspx
I have spent all weekend reviewing this and decided to go down this route to eliminate potential boost leaks etc. I am guessing most of you guys probably done this mod before, however I would like to share the idea with those who haven't.
The kit I am putting forward is very similar to the set up which some of you guys use, which include the 19mm catch can from Japan which most of you guys purchase. Doing this obviously you will have a long lead time on the can itself plus a cost for importing etc, so you could end up spending a fair bit in total.
My kit however will consist of the catch can, hose, t piece and jubilee clips.
The spec of the catch can is below:
Manufactured from 3” x 3mm wall Aluminium Tube, 3mm Aluminium end plates and ¾” x 1.6mm wall Aluminium tube coming out as detailed, 1 off bracket on rear and 1 off tapped fitting for drain screw under – natural finish. 19mm outlets and inlets which helps engine breath better.
Catch cans on ebay are mostly 9mm or 15mm outlets and inlets.
I am looking to sell the kit at a decent price with extremely good lead times, however before i put price up delivered, I want to ensure I havent done anything wrong on the forums as all I am doing is offering you guys a working solution from the UK.
All advice,comments and interested appreciated
Trey
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Price?
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wasnt there someone else planning on doing this? but the costs were too high and wasnt feasible?
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=225737.0
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well at the moment, most of the kits the guys are running on there 1.8T, the catch can with the 19mm connections come from Japan, which takes up to 3 weeks for the can along and then you still have to order the pipe etc.
The can from japan comes in at $105usd, plus $36usd delivery plus another £20 for import charge along with the time scales. $105 + $36 works out to £88 delivered, plus further £20 which is £108 for the catch can alone.
My kit, i have full control of the fabrication and release a full price shortly delivered to your door. The can is a very similar design to the japanese one and extremely suitable and proven to work on the 1.8T engines. Its not the usual 9mm or 15mm ebay specials, and it will also come with the T-piece and hose for the job.
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all i can say is i need price before i say anything but your right about the import costs and everything happened to a friend of mine
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had my stainless steel 19mm fittings made across the road for £10 which some of the guys already know and can itself was an ebay one so all in about £30 not bad ay :smiley: well worth getting the 19mm fittings along with can etc if the price is good all the best mate :cool:
new v old fittings
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0270-1.jpg)
and fitted to can
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0272.jpg)
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with risk of sounding stupid, what does a catch can actually do?
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had my stainless steel 19mm fittings made across the road for £10 which some of the guys already know and can itself was an ebay one so all in about £30 not bad ay :smiley: well worth getting the 19mm fittings along with can etc if the price is good all the best mate :cool:
new v old fittings
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0270-1.jpg)
and fitted to can
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0272.jpg)
see this was my original idea as I bought one of these cans however when you make the stainless steel fixing 19mm, you still have the restriction further into the fixings, so no point in having 19mm.
on my cans, its 19mm inlets and outlets all the way through...
I will release prices when I have fitted the kit because I want to offer you guys various options in terms of the hoses, colours etc. my can is in progress, so hopefully can get this fitted asap really, going to put pictures up and then give the prices etc.... :smiley:
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yes i have fitted it with no probs its all in the prep :laugh: pipes are very very tight as you say but it is just about doable there was a thread on it all a few weeks ago and like i said then theres always room for improvement with everything :smiley: it was a quick pop into engineering place asked the chap if he can make these into that and here we go no real thought or faffing around job done :laugh:
as for the restriction i aint noticed any at all its arguable that it does but if anything it stops all the sh!te from going back up through as there is no filter in it which is summat else that needs to be sorted
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pic of the install not the best pic but 19mm all the way through :wink:
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0276.jpg)
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yes i have fitted it with no probs its all in the prep :laugh: pipes are very very tight as you say but it is just about doable there was a thread on it all a few weeks ago and like i said then theres always room for improvement with everything :smiley: it was a quick pop into engineering place asked the chap if he can make these into that and here we go no real thought or faffing around job done :laugh:
as for the restriction i aint noticed any at all its arguable that it does but if anything it stops all the sh!te from going back up through as there is no filter in it which is summat else that needs to be sorted
Yeah it will still work, sum people choose to go different ways...the engine just breathes well on 19mm system, runs really smooth.
I just refused to pay the import tax, so thought Ill fabricate my own and offer people a great solution :)
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good on you mate if it sound like im mocking your idea i really aint :kiss: i think its about time someone made the cans at a good price and spec so ppl can afford them and know they work good i wish you all the very best :cool:
'wolverine i agree mate its does look a tad poo with them sticking up mate
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another thing i didn't like was how they point the pipes upwards. would be better going in flat IMO
exactly mate, my pipes are going flat... :smiley:
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pic of the install not the best pic but 19mm all the way through :wink:
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0276.jpg)
thats nice mate, not bad...i actually have one of those cans sitting here, was going to do what youve done. lol
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:laugh: cheers dude looks better now its a bit cleaner :grin:
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i wil be keen when you have completed the kit :smiley:
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just out of interest.. i need a catch can soon. do the ebay catch tanks have a filter at all? and is it necessary?
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no they dont mate and im using one as are others with no filter and no problems i think if you keep on top of emptying it and cleaning etc you should be fine :smiley:
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want one!!!
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the ebay ones havent...
and neither will mine as I dont see much benefit in it at all. when it comes to cleaning mine, when every I drain it, i will clean it out then. its like a 5minute job. :)
will release prices soon etc, give people various options.
All whos interested drop me pms, so I can keep logs and notify you guys when I have put a thread up.
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just wondered if i would benefit much from going all out haha..
but i may just purchase an ebay one, unless you can get one soon which i doubt :sad:
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if you really interested, then wait buddy. at least to see what I have to offer with pics.
I have an ebay one right next to me, and I aint going to bother fitting it! lol I will be fitting my kit next friday...have to order the silicone etc tonight.
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update:
1st Can will be finish next thursday, considering it will be for my car I am painting it in Matt black with black silicone piping.
Looking to fit next friday if I can get the day off or will guarentee be saturday morning. So Saturday night, watch this spaceee :cool:
i have a lot of other work to do on the car as well, so will be eventful day.
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picking up my can tomorrow, preping it for fitting on Saturday...have assembled my kit now
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do you have an idea of a rough price? if its similar to the Saikou Michi can I'd still go for one of them tbh as I'd like to have a filter. may be interested if its cheaper though :P
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It is similar to the Saikou Michi can, my first one is slightly bigger though in diameter and it isnt filtered as I am about to finalised the filtered idea so all the cans after that will be filtered. To be honest, filtered or not it will still do 10 times a better job than the current system.
Well i have worked out 6 different kits to offer.
Matt Black Catch Can with standard black rubber hose/silicone hose.
Colour Catch Can with standard black rubber hose/silicone hose.
Carbon Dipped Catch can with black rubber hose/silicone hose.
All the kits come with all hoses, 'T' piece, all jubilee clips, bolts and nuts plus catch can..
I dont want to release prices as yet, because I need to speak to my fabricator today...he thinks its funny to up the original cost of 10 being purchased by £25 after making mine and seeing the work involve.
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I will take one if it works and pending price.
I need it done and prefer to have the whole kit rather me running around looking for parts to make it fit. :nerd:
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i am on this aswell once prices are released but i got a epxensive month this month
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To be honest, filtered or not it will still do 10 times a better job than the current system.
I know, I already have an ebay can fitted though which is why I'd want it filtered couldn't justify spending that much just for 3mm bigger inlets. I'll keep an eye on this :)
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i got ebay one with custom 19mm fitings no filter in mine with no probs just get bigger fittings for your existing setup
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The only difference is size of inlets and outlets, and the design of the can as in where inlets and outlets are located hinse why i done the design similar to the jap onerather than the ebays.
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update:
i have my can here :smiley:, looks good stuff and mine is quite big in diameter, will prep it etc tomorrow...my kit will be matt black with black silicone hoses, as i want to keep my engine bay black, however when I do advertise the kit for sale, i will offer various options and cost.
not happy at the moment though as the fabricator thinks its funny to up cost from what was originally agreed due to there was quite a bit of work involve as its not as easy as it looks, so holding discussions tomorrow...tomorrow night all will be revealed...
all whos interested, keep an eye out...
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I would be interested too. :smiley:
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Me too if price is right.!!!! :grin:
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I'm interested. Looking forward to seeing some pics.
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fitted it today, and its made a world of difference along with a new lambda :)
its by far one of the best mods I have done, car drives so smooth. I just need to tidy up some pipes etc, and swap over my t-piece tomorrow etc as I had to make up a make do tpiece today as forgot mine when I went to my mates in Chesterfield. I forgot all the stainless steel nuts and bolts as well for it along with the jubilee clips...gutting lol. It is me and him who is fabricating the kits as he is ford mad, so doing one for fords etc.
Tomorrow morning i will tidy up my bay, and put some pics up along with prices and kit options. My bay is nothing flashy, just a standard bay however it illustrates the can, etc. There will be stuff such as all the stainless steel nuts and bolts etc which will come with the kit along with what ever colour (powder coated)can you choose along with pipe etc, mine was rushed really as i needed to sort my piping out, below is exactly why I had to do it especially when I travel quite a bit for work. You just dont notice certain things till you actually realise when you do this type of job, and I am glad I have finally done it.
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/NorthEastDerbyshire-20120428-00124.jpg)
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/NorthEastDerbyshire-20120428-00113.jpg)
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/NorthEastDerbyshire-20120428-00117.jpg)
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/NorthEastDerbyshire-20120428-00130.jpg)
(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/NorthEastDerbyshire-20120428-00132.jpg)
The can for mine is bigger than it will be, this is 88mm in diameter with twin wall system. I am changing the design slightly on the the future cans I make using filter adapters, along with a viewing section on the can itself i think. I will decide on this, however the can itself is spot on.
All thoughts appreciate, look at the split pipe tut.
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can itself looks spot on looks just like a saiko michi one to me :cool:
any pics of it fitted with pipe work etc :smiley:
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Nice work looks good :cool:
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Guna get some pics of it fitted tomorrow. The style is the same as the jap one, but its bigger. Also the jap one cost 115 delivered plus import charges to uk.
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How much we looking for these delivered mate? any idea yet? :smiley:
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doing the pricing as we speak buddy, so will put them up later...
little annoyed at the weather though as wanted to finish mine off and get some pics up to..
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writing a forum post now in for sale items...
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Looks fantastic :smiley:
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Agreed and I would much rather get something from someone on here than a company the other side of the world :wink:
I just need to justify the cost to myself and order one, but that'll be after the turbo upgrade :evil:
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(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq13/trezamania/Melton-20120430-00153.jpg)
I think I will just be selling the catch cans now, as the kits can be easily assembled by you guys.
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Looks spot on, i get all my silicone hoses from ASH mr silicone, pretty cheap.
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Are they baffled?
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There are no need for baffles. This has been extensively reseached and the cost of manufacture is overweighed by the actual benefits. If a can is required with baffles then we can give provided you with a price.
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mate in all fairness they look spot on :cool:
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it does look rather good!
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Don't want to cause problems or anything but I'm pretty sure awesome gti do a catch can with 19mm fittings for about £83 and you can get a 19mm hose kit for £20 on eBay :lipsrsealed:
EDIT: http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=40597&jssCart=90f08ff89177693e1d02489c11e5d613
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this much
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=230053.0
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I will only be selling the cans now, you guys can create the rest of the kit as it is pretty straight forward to be honest.
everyones can have different design, so it really depends to be honest what you fancy. mine is pretty big in fairness as welll