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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: bosco on 16 April 2012, 20:06
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Well guys
Just bought a 1997 vr6 obd2 that has been lying outside for a while and it wont start. Car cranks alright but wont fire. Was told it might be an immob problem or that I could cut the alarm out but not sure how to do that? Engine was meant to be going into a mk2 but I just want it running so I can move it around.
Anything I should check as its been out in the elements electrical/plugs/dizzy etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated dudes.
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Coil likes to break down if left standing, check for spark.
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Thanks man how do I do that?
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Have spark and fuel now. Car starts but cuts out nearly straight away. Immob problem I take it then. How do I bypass it or cut the loom out please?
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the way your saying it seems like your missing the chip inside the key or like you say its the immobliser.
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Did a bit of work on the vr6 today and removed the aftermarket alarm system fitted on it as the car was starting then cutting out with the immobiliser.
Car is still doing it but I can keep the car going if I feather the accelerator and keep the revs up. If I dont it just dies.
Wondering is there any common problems with these and things I should look at that might be causing it? Fuel pump,plugs etc etc.
Plugs are very black. Any way to test if it's bad plugs/leads?
Also when you turn the key to ignition on a message comes up where the mileage is on the clocks saying "ON 02"... Mean anything?
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Also when you turn the key to ignition on a message comes up where the mileage is on the clocks saying "ON 02"... Mean anything?
Can't help you with the other bits, but if you actually mean IN 02 is displayed, this is the car indicating it is due a major service. This may or may not be the case depending on whether it was reset the last time one was carried out.
If you wish to reset it yourself, very easy, see here:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=479.0
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Also when you turn the key to ignition on a message comes up where the mileage is on the clocks saying "ON 02"... Mean anything?
Can't help you with the other bits, but if you actually mean IN 02 is displayed, this is the car indicating it is due a major service. This may or may not be the case depending on whether it was reset the last time one was carried out.
If you wish to reset it yourself, very easy, see here:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=479.0
My bad it was actually IN 02 thanks for the link
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I know someone who had a smiliar problem, was the crank sensor. Have you had it scanned for codes?
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Are you getting a buzzing noise from your fusebox when cranking over?
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I know someone who had a smiliar problem, was the crank sensor. Have you had it scanned for codes?
Tested the crank sensor with a multimeter and got 571 ohms. Havent scanned it yet will hopefully be able to tomorrow.
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Are you getting a buzzing noise from your fusebox when cranking over?
No, no noise coming from the fusebox.
Dont think I can hear the fuel pump priming either.
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if the plugs are black - new plugs might be worth while?
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Fuel pump relay?
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I would check the basics first - fuel, compression and ignition.
Although you don't have to check in that order :laugh:
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Hopefully have new plugs some stage tomorrow.
Fuel pump relay can you test it or just replace it?
Have fuel going to the rail anyway cause I disconnected the feed and cranked it and fuel came out. Was quite dark/murky though (been sitting up for a while)
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> Was quite dark/murky though (been sitting up for a while)
apparently fuel goes off - so would drain and replace.
James
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Plugged in today and got this from it. All im really concerned about is the immobilizer fault. I cleared the fault and it hasnt come back but the car will still fire and run for a few seconds then cut out. Any ideas or is it off with the ECU and get it defeated?
Thursday,26,April,2012,17:53:26:11321
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Chassis Type: 1H - VW Golf/Vento III
Scan: 01 02 03 08 12 15 25 41 56
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 021-906-256.lbl
Part No: 021 906 256
Component: MOTRONIC M3.8.1 HS V02
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 01269
VCID: CFA7CB370DC68D1
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
Readiness: N/A
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3A0-907-379.lbl
Part No: 3A0 907 379 E
Component: ABS/EDS ITTAE 20 GI V00
Coding: 03704
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2C5D3CBBDC10169
1 Fault Found:
00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
35-00 - -
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6N0-909-60x-VW2.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 603 E
Component: AIRBAG VW2 V00
Coding: 00069
Shop #: WSC 01269
VCID: 346D24DB04204E9
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1H0-953-257.lbl
Part No: 1H0 953 257 B
Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0T3337786 V00
Coding: 09600
Shop #: WSC 01332
VCID: 2A513AA3D6E4089
1 Fault Found:
00546 - Data wiring faulty
27-00 - Implausible Signal
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Address 01: DTCs cleared
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Address 03: DTCs cleared
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Address 15: DTCs cleared
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Address 25: DTCs cleared
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Chassis Type: 1H - VW Golf/Vento III
Scan: 01 02 03 08 12 15 25 41 56
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 021-906-256.lbl
Part No: 021 906 256
Component: MOTRONIC M3.8.1 HS V02
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 01269
VCID: CFA7CB370DC68D1
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3A0-907-379.lbl
Part No: 3A0 907 379 E
Component: ABS/EDS ITTAE 20 GI V00
Coding: 03704
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2C5D3CBBDC10169
1 Fault Found:
00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
35-00 - -
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6N0-909-60x-VW2.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 603 E
Component: AIRBAG VW2 V00
Coding: 00069
Shop #: WSC 01269
VCID: 346D24DB04204E9
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1H0-953-257.lbl
Part No: 1H0 953 257 B
Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0T3337786 V00
Coding: 09600
Shop #: WSC 01332
VCID: 2A513AA3D6E4089
No fault code found.
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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness -- Address 10
Number of DTCs stored: 0 -- MIL Status: MIL ON
Misfire monitoring: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.
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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness -- Address 10
Number of DTCs stored: 0 -- MIL Status: MIL ON
Misfire monitoring: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.
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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness -- Address 10
Number of DTCs stored: 0 -- MIL Status: MIL ON
Misfire monitoring: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.
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Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness -- Address 10
Number of DTCs stored: 0 -- MIL Status: MIL ON
Misfire monitoring: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.
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OBD DTCs erased
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Anyone shed any light on the immobiliser fault code?
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same problem with my vr buddy!
00546 - Data Wiring faulty: Implausible Signal
Possible Symptoms
Engine not starting / immediate Shutdown
Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
Possible Causes
Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Control Module (J362) faulty
No Signal or Implausible Signal on W-Line between Immobilizer Control Module (J362) and Engine Control Unit or Fuel Cut-Off Valve Control Unit
Immobilizer Control Module (J362) incorrectly coded
Immobilizer Control Module (J362) faulty
Possible Solutions
Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Control Module (J362)
Check Immobilizer Control Module (J362) Coding, Baud Rate Setting
Check/Replace Immobilizer Control Module (J362)
Special Notes
Under certain circumstances this code may be stored after improperly operating the Vehicle/Ignition. For example after the Engine has stopped the Ignition is switched on again immediately (Engine Control Module is still in the Start-Up Phase).
In such a case switch off the Ignition and wait at least 10 seconds before switching it back on. Then check and clear Fault Codes.
as a added problem all my windows decided to go down and refuse to go back up :') good thing i have a garage
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found another person with the same fault and he sorted it out, a very crap reply by means of informative but this was it.
"there was a problem with a earth to the ecu and thats why it would not start, so my m8 earthed it up and it started 1st turn of the key"
ill keep a look out
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Got it started today. Went through all the wiring and found a few dodgy wires so soldered them also cleaned the earth to the left of the steering column. Then disconnected the black immob box reconnected it and it started no problem. Hope it helps.