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Title: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 12 April 2012, 11:47
My Newsouth Boost gauge turned up today courtesy of Wazzzer, this might sound like a bit of a daft question but I'm going to ask it anyway :grin:

I've bypassed my n249 valve so I've got tubing going from the FPR straight to the top of the DV, shown in blue here (it is now red though!)

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/IMAG0575.jpg)

I was going to T into the tubing close to the FPR, the tubing has an ID of 3mm. The problem being that the tubing on the back of the boost gauge has an OD of 3mm. I have a 3mm T-connector, but obviously that will not connect all the tubing together.

My question - do I need to get a reducing T-connector? If so where from? Or do I connect the 2 different sizes of tubing with a reducer and use my existing T-connector?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Query
Post by: palmtree on 12 April 2012, 12:59
Is the tubing with the boost gauge like a hard plastic material?

Mine was with my new south gauge I just used a small length about 5cm of 4mm vac hose onto the t piece and then the smaller tube that came with gauge into the other end of the vac hose
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Query
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 12 April 2012, 13:10
If you have bypassed the N249 you should also have an unused nipple on the underside of the plenum chamber, I removed my N249 and N112 is it? and I had one left over.
If you need a pic let me know and I will get one later  :wink:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Query
Post by: dom on 12 April 2012, 13:56
All sorted guys, thanks for the help :cool:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Query
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 19:46
Right then, next question! I got the gauge installed today and tested it when stationary (I moved it from the position in the video and am waiting for some super glue to dry :lipsrsealed:)

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/th_VIDEO0073.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/?action=view&current=VIDEO0073.mp4)

Is that a normal reading for the car being stationary? It was revved up to around 6k rpm. Obviously I'll test it properly tomorrow, but wanted to make sure that looked ok first :undecided:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: daz veedub on 22 April 2012, 19:47
should be below 0 if ticking over due to vaccuum
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 19:49
Have you watched the vid (click the picture)? It drops below 0, but when revved it only hits 5psi. I'm guessing it'll hit more when under load?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: daz veedub on 22 April 2012, 19:52
 

i didnt watch it not with it today mate thought it was a picture  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

yes will be more underload mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 22 April 2012, 19:59
seems about right to me.
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Toby on 22 April 2012, 20:02
is your car mapped yet?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Toby on 22 April 2012, 20:03
loooking at it, it goes down? and it should be sitting at 0 when engine is running?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 20:05
is your car mapped yet?

Yeah, been mapped for ages. I'll test it properly tomorrow, really wanting to know if that is about right for it being revved with no load.

loooking at it, it goes down? and it should be sitting at 0 when engine is running?

I thought it was supposed to sit at 0 with the engine off, and drop below 0 when idling?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: wretch20vt on 22 April 2012, 20:07
something wrong mate mine idles at 26HG(Vac)
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: daz veedub on 22 April 2012, 20:07
 my needle sits abit lower than that on tickover will hit more psi on load
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: daz veedub on 22 April 2012, 20:09
something wrong mate mine idles at 26HG(Vac)

yeah mines around the same
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 20:10
Just to check, I've bypassed the n249 valve so the pipe coming from the fpr goes to the bottom of the inlet and another pipe goes from the bottom of the inlet to the top of the d/v.

I've T'd into the pipe going from fpr - inlet, that the right one?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 20:14
Like this:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/Untitled3.jpg)
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: wretch20vt on 22 April 2012, 20:16
yea thats right

any kinks in the boost gauge hose?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 20:19
yea thats right

any kinks in the boost gauge hose?

Nope, don't think so, all pretty much straight.
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: wretch20vt on 22 April 2012, 20:23
this is mine (cold)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q493/wretch20vt/th_1c124b6a.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/albums/q493/wretch20vt/?action=view&current=1c124b6a.mp4)
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: daz veedub on 22 April 2012, 20:25
^^^^ thats how it should be
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: cullygti on 22 April 2012, 20:27
thats how mine is on idle sits on -20 under load gives your boost whatever it is and engine off sits at 0 so summat wrong there dom
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: JimBR on 22 April 2012, 20:32
It doesnt matter where you T it off. Mines T'd off my DV as I dont want any connectors in the line to the FPR.

Mine idles at about -25 in vacuum. 0 when the engines off.
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wazzzer on 22 April 2012, 20:48
Dom check the line from the back of the gauge, give it a suck and block it off with your tongue and see if it drops on the gauge. If it does you know it's leaking on that olive union.

I used to sit on -18 in hg on idle

I'll look at the video when I get on my PC and not on my phone
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 20:53
Dom check the line from the back of the gauge, give it a suck and block it off with your tongue and see if it drops on the gauge. If it does you know it's leaking on that olive union.

I used to sit on -18 in hg on idle

I'll look at the video when I get on my PC and not on my phone

Will do, it's all hidden behind the dash now though :grin:

I'll wrap some cable ties around the t connector as well, I didn't have any earlier so left it without. There's a possibility that it's leaking there as well.
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wayne on 22 April 2012, 20:59
thats how mine is on idle sits on -20 under load gives your boost whatever it is and engine off sits at 0 so summat wrong there dom

Mine was the same, so something wrong somewhere
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Toby on 22 April 2012, 21:00
 :laugh: mines a differnt gauge!

mine starts from 0 which would be why i was confused  :rolleyes:
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/c2e71368.jpg)
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 21:08
Right, so the problem lies with the boost gauge tubing some where then? I guess I'll have to check it over tomorrow!
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wazzzer on 22 April 2012, 21:14
lol you've got a dirty diesel gauge  :grin:

Dom if you want I'll send you some sealant that I use on joints like the olive one on the gauge, it's from work and we use it for vacuum bagging

Should have sent you a load when I sold you the gauge but I forgot  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 21:33
lol you've got a dirty diesel gauge  :grin:

Dom if you want I'll send you some sealant that I use on joints like the olive one on the gauge, it's from work and we use it for vacuum bagging

Should have sent you a load when I sold you the gauge but I forgot  :embarassed:

I'll have a check over everything tomorrow and see if I can sort it, if not then that'd be great. I haven't done anything with the pipe coming out of the gauge, I assumed that the seal would still be ok. I think the problem is with my T connector personally, it seemed a little loose :undecided:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wazzzer on 22 April 2012, 22:12
ah I think we may have hit something here, that pipe on the back of the gauge was only finger tight...
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 22 April 2012, 22:42
Righto, that'll be the first check then :grin:

How does it attach onto the gauge? I didn't even look!
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wayne on 22 April 2012, 23:38
Might be best to remove the fitting and refit it with ptfe tape around the threads.
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 23 April 2012, 08:08
Just got to work, there was a hissing noise coming from the boost gauge so I'm assuming that is def the problem. How is the tubing attached to the gauge? Does it have a threaded connector?
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: wretch20vt on 23 April 2012, 08:15
the tubing attaches to the nipple at the back of the gauge
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: dom on 23 April 2012, 17:59
Some PTFE tape and a tighten and it's sorted:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/th_VIDEO0075.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/?action=view&current=VIDEO0075.mp4)

(click for vid)
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: cullygti on 23 April 2012, 18:03
looks much better that does and sitting where it should be  :cool:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wazzzer on 23 April 2012, 20:21
that was a lightbulb moment last night  :laugh:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Rhyso on 23 April 2012, 20:26
that was a lightbulb moment last night  :laugh:

First and last one this year then  :kiss: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: Wazzzer on 23 April 2012, 20:37
yeah defo  :sad:
Title: Re: Boost Gauge Fitted and another question!
Post by: richw911 on 23 April 2012, 20:38
that was a lightbulb moment last night  :laugh:

First and last one this year then  :kiss: :laugh: :laugh:

 :grin: