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Title: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 07 April 2012, 22:50
Got a problem during the night where I can't breather through my nose, I always breathe through my mouth and this leaves me with a very very dry mouth in the morning (I breathe through my mouth most of the day too, I have to actually think about breathing through my nose to breathe through it). I always wake up thirsty, with dry lips and tongue (usually split tongue and lip from the dryness) and with bad breath, all due to breathing through my mouth all night long. I've tried vaseline on the lips, but my tongue still splits and the dryness is still there obviously.

Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this and how to solve it? It's been happening for years but it's been really annoying me lately.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Jay on 07 April 2012, 22:58
I do this some nights, usually get a bl@@dy sore throat and cold symptoms following it if my throat has dried up.

Maybe best speaking with your doc if it's every night  :undecided:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Jimble on 07 April 2012, 23:02
Have you tried those tape/plaster type things that go over your nose? Like Rubens Barichello used to use to help breath through your nose?.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: scarr89 on 07 April 2012, 23:04
Have you tried those tape/plaster type things that go over your nose? Like Rubens Barichello used to use to help breath through your nose?.

+1.

Sleeping on your side can help, the Mrs Ex Mrs used to whine that I snored and found that sleeping on my side helps with breathing through my nose at night.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: cullygti on 07 April 2012, 23:06
i get the snoring while sleeping on my back to does the wifes head in
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 07 April 2012, 23:08
Have you tried those tape/plaster type things that go over your nose? Like Rubens Barichello used to use to help breath through your nose?.

Yup, have tried them years ago and didn't help. Is it a possibility it could be the adenoids? My friend had them removed to help him breathe through his nose. I think it may be a trip to the GP as Jay said.

Position wise I sleep in all sorts through the night. I used to snore which annoyed the girlfriend, but I stopped all of a sudden and haven't done so for a few years now.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 07 April 2012, 23:11
If it helps, I do have trouble when I do breathe through my nose. I feel like I'm suffocating, as in, I'm not getting enough air in quickly and feel panicky.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: scarr89 on 07 April 2012, 23:20
If it helps, I do have trouble when I do breathe through my nose. I feel like I'm suffocating, as in, I'm not getting enough air in quickly and feel panicky.

When did you last service it? You been using the correct oil?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Jay on 07 April 2012, 23:27
If it helps, I do have trouble when I do breathe through my nose. I feel like I'm suffocating, as in, I'm not getting enough air in quickly and feel panicky.

Do you suffer with nasal/sinus polyps ? My cousin had to have an operation to remove these because his nose constantly sounded blocked and couldn't breathe through his nose very well.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 07 April 2012, 23:30
I don't know. I don't usually get a runny nose but I always have either one of the sides partly blocked, right now it's the left side but it changes every so often between sides.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: dom on 07 April 2012, 23:34
Do you have large tonsils? Someone on embarrassing bodies a couple of weeks ago had the same symptoms as you and it was due to having large tonsils, when you lie on your back they block your nasal passage causing you to breath through your mouth :wink:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 07 April 2012, 23:39
Never measured them  :grin:

But I have trouble breathing through the nose sitting down, standing, lying and any other position.

I spoke to my friend who had his adenoids removed and he said he had the same symptoms as me. When breathing through the nose it felt like he was breathing through a straw, like the lungs are trying very hard to get air in but the passage is too narrow. He also said he had the same problems at night when sleeping, and still does but due to him being used to breath through his mouth. I've tried breathing through my nose continuously but I just felt asphyxiated after a few breaths, so had to take a big gulp of air from mouth. More and more I think about it, and especially after speaking to him, I'm starting to think adenoids. Will be in touch with my GP on tuesday to book an appointment to diagnose something.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Guy on 08 April 2012, 10:49
i don't know if it will help but maybe a humidifier will stop you having such a dry mouth?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vicks-V-610E-Warm-Mist-Humidifier/dp/B000LN5FZ6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1333878477&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vicks-V-610E-Warm-Mist-Humidifier/dp/B000LN5FZ6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1333878477&sr=8-3)
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 08 April 2012, 11:53
i don't know if it will help but maybe a humidifier will stop you having such a dry mouth?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vicks-V-610E-Warm-Mist-Humidifier/dp/B000LN5FZ6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1333878477&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vicks-V-610E-Warm-Mist-Humidifier/dp/B000LN5FZ6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1333878477&sr=8-3)

It may work, but the problem lies with me rather than with the ambiance, so rather than mask the problem I'd like to fix it completely. As I said, I feel like I'm breathing in through a straw when I use my nose. If someone was to duct tape my mouth I would eventually asphyxiate.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Ben Lessani on 08 April 2012, 11:57
If it shifts between being blocked on one side, then the other, it sounds like a deviated septum.

Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: dTEA on 08 April 2012, 12:43
Deviated septum. Might be this...quite common as one side branches off leading to virtually blocked nasal passage causing reliance on the other. Stress sounds a factor too TBH and some deep breathing circular stylee should help? 

Not that it's the best resource by you get the picture...http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_septum_deviation#section_2 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_septum_deviation#section_2)

Simple op but benefits don't start till 2month after surgery N and it's an open wound so minimum of 2 weeks off work (or longer if it's me! :wink:)

Either way get to the docs...they'll send you to a specialist to have a proper butchers up there. Something's not right :undecided:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 08 April 2012, 14:44
Cheers dtea, nice informative reply. Doubt it's stress, I've never felt stressed over something tbh, always had a calm and tranquil approach to things.

Will call doctors on tuesday as I said, and try and get something diagnosed.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: brett on 08 April 2012, 14:55
i was told year or so ago when i went to the hosp that my nose had been broken at some point and i had a deviated septum,snore like a steam train apparently lol,have so far put off goin as would mean having my nose broken again and reset or havin my nasal passages drilled.neither really appeal to me  ,but know what your goin through 
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Roverdose on 08 April 2012, 20:51
mate i feel your pain, im exactly the same! my throat swells up during the day too though, hurts mainly when i swallow, is it the same for you?
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 08 April 2012, 21:02
mate i feel your pain, im exactly the same! my throat swells up during the day too though, hurts mainly when i swallow, is it the same for you?

Nope, after a drink of water and a brush of the teeth I'm good as gold.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: archie837 on 08 April 2012, 21:45
Could be your adenoids.

I had mine out a few years back and now I sleep much better. Mine were really big and blocked my nasal passage so I only could breathe through my mouth. I had enlarged tonsils too so they took those out too and also performed a turbineectomy (sp) - essentially channeled the inside of my nose by 3cm to open up the passages a bit more.

Get it checked out, the above has helped me absoloutely loads. I now don't snore and sleep all the way through the night as well as not choking in my sleep (used to happen 3 times a week, essentially died due to my throat collapsing).
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Dave_IOW on 09 April 2012, 12:35
I had this also, had nose cauterised and adenoids done, 2 weeks with bungs up your nose (most horrendous pain ever getting these out) and worked for about 6 months, now back to how i was before..

I never breath through my nose, ever, and always sound like i've got a cold constantly.. Was weird for them 6 months how it changed, but back to normal (blocked) again now!  :grin:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 09 April 2012, 12:56
Adenoids are known to grow back Dave, go get them checked them out again. I'm hoping to fix this, would like to breather properly.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Dave_IOW on 09 April 2012, 14:43
Adenoids are known to grow back Dave, go get them checked them out again. I'm hoping to fix this, would like to breather properly.

Yeah me too but not going through all that every six months! The pain was undescribable pulling the bungs out  :shocked:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: dTEA on 09 April 2012, 15:48
^ tell that a woman after child birth :grin:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Kerrse on 09 April 2012, 20:25
I used to be similar years ago but an operation to open up the nasal passages, the doctor described as drilling bigger holes lol defo worked although still breath more with my mouth more habit than anything.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Dave_IOW on 09 April 2012, 23:19
havent read the whole thread so forgive me, but...

i get this alot, i always sound bunged up and like i have a cold, even when i don't. Really is quite annoying... Apparently you can get your nasal passages bored out  :huh: or something along those lines.


ha just saw
I used to be similar years ago but an operation to open up the nasal passages, the doctor described as drilling bigger holes lol defo worked although still breath more with my mouth more habit than anything.


how do you go about obtaining the op? as i sound like a muppet all year round  :angry:


GP mate, had mine done though and didn't last very long!
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Dave_IOW on 09 April 2012, 23:28
what do you mean? it grew back?

Well feels like nose is blocked 24/7 again yes, medically i have no idea, but that sounds about right!
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Mitching on 09 April 2012, 23:30
Hmmm, I too nearly always have a blocked nostril, and struggle breathing nasally.
I always put it down to being a smoker, plus being head butted a few times can't have helped...
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Dave_IOW on 10 April 2012, 00:16
Hmmm, I too nearly always have a blocked nostril, and struggle breathing nasally.
I always put it down to being a smoker, plus being head butted a few times can't have helped...

don't think your ment to smoke like this:

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:laugh:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: MAW73 on 10 April 2012, 11:22
I had a terrible nights sleeps as well   :sick: I went to bed at 10.30am and didn't get off to sleep until 3am as my stomach felt sore, bloated and queasy. I'm not sure if this is a tummy bug or not. Had this on and off for a few days now. Although I must admit I did over indulge yesterday as I felt fine during the day.

I'm still feeeling bloated today. I've not eaten anything as yet. I'm just drinking loads of water to try and purge the system.... Agghhh
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2012, 11:26
Well I went to the GP today and as I expected, bloody useless.

She's put me on a 4-5 month trial of Beconase aqueous nasal spray, because she thinks it might be allergy related  :rolleyes: I've got this 365 days a year 24/7, never had an allergy in my life, this is NOT allergy related but the NHS are reluctant to spend money and send me to a hospital to have my adenoids checked out. If only I had done this years ago as my friend did, he got his checked out immediately and removed.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Sam on 24 April 2012, 11:39
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Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: archie837 on 24 April 2012, 12:52
Well I went to the GP today and as I expected, bloody useless.

She's put me on a 4-5 month trial of Beconase aqueous nasal spray, because she thinks it might be allergy related  :rolleyes: I've got this 365 days a year 24/7, never had an allergy in my life, this is NOT allergy related but the NHS are reluctant to spend money and send me to a hospital to have my adenoids checked out. If only I had done this years ago as my friend did, he got his checked out immediately and removed.

Rubbish.

Only reason I got sorted was due to getting private health through work.

Might be worth joining a scheme just to get this sorted?
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2012, 13:03
Yeah it might be. I'll make some calls and see whats possible.
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: clipperjay on 24 April 2012, 13:10
Yeah it might be. I'll make some calls and see whats possible.

Read the terms and conditions Khare  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2012, 13:11
Oh what, the NHS?  :grin:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Mr Blue on 24 April 2012, 13:15
Get some medication with the breathing issue.

Don't sleep on your back. Also a pillow might be causing the problem.

Diet? Weight problem?

Read up on sinus.
http://www.achooallergy.com/sinus-problems-faq.asp
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: clipperjay on 24 April 2012, 13:18
Oh what, the NHS?  :grin:

Haaa private insurance unless its a good one they always put clauses into stop you claiming and always have to be carefull filling in forms  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2012, 13:23
Get some medication with the breathing issue.

Don't sleep on your back. Also a pillow might be causing the problem.

Diet? Weight problem?

Read up on sinus.
http://www.achooallergy.com/sinus-problems-faq.asp

I did, some nasal spray for allergies. I sleep in all positions through the night, and I can't control in which one I sleep in, my sleeps are very deep. No weight problem, diet is good.

The GP gave me some info on Rhinitis, which also contains info on Sinusitis and Nasal Polyps. From reading the description of each one of the problems I think Nasal Polyps best describes my symptoms, however she told me she couldn't see any up there. As I said, NHS are trying to save money by making me buying some £8 nasal spray for allergies (which I don't have any) and not booking me in with the hospital to get my adenoids checked out. That's bought the NHS 5 months of me buying £8 sprays and not getting seen at the hospital. The GP I use is really annoying me now, my mum has recurring migraines which completely take over her and our doctor just says plenty of paracetamol will do  :rolleyes: We need to change surgery, there's a better one down the road.


Oh what, the NHS?  :grin:

Haaa private insurance unless its a good one they always put clauses into stop you claiming and always have to be carefull filling in forms  :lipsrsealed:

Ahh right, yeah I will do. Probably won't go down that route though, strapped for cash at the moment  :sad:
Title: Re: Help me sleep well!
Post by: dTEA on 24 April 2012, 19:40
Second opinion and also ask the pharmacy if they do a generic branded nasal spray as £8 script may not be the cheapest option and lots of times its cheaper to buy the counter stuff. Pharmacist will set you straight.