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Title: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: shelaghmk3gti on 06 April 2012, 16:46
watched something on TV that stated that logbook loans will never show up on a HPI ( or similar) check.
so no matter how carefull you are the bailiff can and will take the car as if payments are defaulted on by the seller /previous owner ( and youd never know that a loan even exisited).. then of course it becomes the property of the company that issued the loan.
what makes it worse is the fact that these type of loans are so easy to obtain and of course with interest rates around 1470%++ they are never going to be easy to repay

beware second hand car/bike buyers!     :undecided:

any views/opinions?
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: JC on 06 April 2012, 16:50
yep all very simple

they loan against the LOG BOOK. as in they take it off you until loan is repaid.

if you buy a car without the log book then you are a muppet.

Cheers Easy

 :smiley:
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: shelaghmk3gti on 06 April 2012, 16:56
ah so they actually hold the V5? cripes, not so tricky to spot afterall then. unless a new one was applied for with a lost /destroyed reason? or do the DVLA intervene and hold records?
im confused as to how easy it seems to be able to shaft an innocent buyer in this way  :undecided:
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: JC on 06 April 2012, 17:01
lets put it this way, and is just my view

 if you are that desperate for cash, then perhaps running a car isnt the right option anyway.

and if people want to rip you off when selling motors there are a lot easier ways.
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: shelaghmk3gti on 06 April 2012, 17:06
lets put it this way, and is just my view

 if you are that desperate for cash, then perhaps running a car isnt the right option anyway.

and if people want to rip you off when selling motors there are a lot easier ways.

sorry i think you misunderstand, im not or wouldnt have this type of loan, just saying that after the tv programme it all seems to be working badly in the direction of 2nd hand car buyers, but totally agree with you were you saying buying without a logbook is a mugs game


Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: JC on 06 April 2012, 17:07
didnt say u, I said the principle thereof,  :smiley:
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: danny_p on 07 April 2012, 01:25
nothing rong with buying cars without logbooks.

the logbook itself  dosent actualy say who owns the car but who is resonsible for its as in taxing insureing and paying fines.  its quite possible to have posetion of a car and it's log book when the car isn't actualy yours ( finance )

but i see nothing wrong with it as long as you apply the apropeate price correction factor  :smiley:     
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: shelaghmk3gti on 07 April 2012, 09:33
hmmmm thats true
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: Luke1981 on 07 April 2012, 13:36
It would be a very very dark day before I used a payday company! Absolute rip off merchants!
Better regulation is required.

Its a double edged sword though, if they were banned then people would use illegal loan sharks!

Always live within your means   :wink:
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: bob23 on 08 April 2012, 03:18
I'd just argue that the person who took the loan out was not the owner at the time the loan was taken out, that I was, that they were the registered keeper, not owner and never had my permission to take a loan out on the car, that if they were stupid enough to give someone a loan against a car they never owned, then it is their problem, that they should do better checks before approving loans, if that failed I'd just burn it out, claim on the insurance and tell them to do one.
Title: Re: logbook loans, what they didnt tell u
Post by: J_V_Dub on 08 April 2012, 14:38
It would be a very very dark day before I used a payday company! Absolute rip off merchants!
Better regulation is required.

Its a double edged sword though, if they were banned then people would use illegal loan sharks!

Always live within your means   :wink:

80,000 new customers every month mate, not everyone is out there to rip people off but as you say, eliminate that and you have loan sharks but there are people out there who are very desperate...

With regards to logbook loans there was a massive company that just went under that was doing them, they had over 1.2 million customers and over 700,000 got out of owing them money because of a little clause in terms and conditions  :lipsrsealed: