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Title: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 18:44
Probably been covered a load of times but i am new to the site and want to know if its going to be usable as an every day car for the missus running kids around and carrying shopping without arches rubbing on the tyres. I want to put 8.5 x 18 with an ET of 40 on the front with 15mm adapters and 225 40's, the same on the back but 9.5's with an et of 37.
I am planning on dropping it 35mm with just springs not a coilover kit as i was warned off cheap coilovers and don't want to spend a fortune on it as its just a diesel runabout for the wife. Luckily I have the choice of another pair of 8.5's for the rear if the 9.5's wont go.

Its been a while since i messed about with golfs , last time it was mk1's and 2's back in the days of raves and acid ... happy days :smiley:
Any advice will be appreciated.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 04 April 2012, 19:10
With all due respect if it is just a run around for the wife then why bother with all the hassle, you will only get rewarded with kurbed alloys!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 19:12
Cus it will look good. :wink:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 04 April 2012, 19:13
i agree with scarr and its upto you as its your well its your wifes car  :grin: but wheels that wide need to have some serious lows to pull them off or they just look silly imo  :smiley:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 04 April 2012, 19:15
Cus it will look good. :wink:

That it will...do you have pictures of the alloys in question  :smiley:

I should think it would fit, I believe 10J wheels have been fitted to the rear on a mk4 so 9.5 should be fine, tight, but fine. You may well get some scrubbing on the rear if going over speed bumps/lumpy roads fast as if you just throw some lowering springs it won't make the up and down motion, if you get me, too much slower I'd imagine.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 04 April 2012, 19:18
get a pic up of wheels dude  :wink:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: nolandubholmes on 04 April 2012, 19:22
Very I'n practical for your wife and kids ul set the suspension up then with the kids and shopping in it will rub like fook in a ideal world u could do with the arches rolled as much as poss but if that's what u want to do go for it pal don't let anyone tell u otherwise the wheels fit so y the hell not
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 19:34
Very I'n practical for your wife and kids ul set the suspension up then with the kids and shopping in it will rub like fook in a ideal world u could do with the arches rolled as much as poss but if that's what u want to do go for it pal don't let anyone tell u otherwise the wheels fit so y the hell not
Thats the info i was after ,would this be the case with 8.5's on the back too.
 I would love to put up a photo but dont know how, !!  As I said earlier I am an old rave refugee we dont know that sort of stuff.
If some one else can, be my guests . They are Merc SLR looking rims(the five spoke ones) i think they came as an option on early 2000-2009 SL's . I am sure proper SLR's had stupid big rims.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 04 April 2012, 19:45
mine rubs like a beesh on the back and catches now and again on the front with 8j wheels all round but my coils are all the way down and tbh you probably would need front arches rolled depending on how low your going to go oh and 15mm spacer on rear and 5mm on front  :smiley:
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0290.jpg)
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 19:48
http://www.mercedes-wallpapers.com/bulkupload/Mercedes4/Mercedes%20Vision%20SLR/Mercedes-Vision-SLR-5.jpg

See if that works
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 04 April 2012, 19:49
thats a very nice golf mk4  :laugh: is that the wheels your thinking of mate  :cool:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 04 April 2012, 19:53
I'd probably kill a small goat for a set of those merc turbines or the alphards!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 04 April 2012, 19:56
very nice and not to many ppl running them  :cool: so be quite rare  :cool:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 20:03
I was wondering what they are called as i have not seen any on a golf or similar. Anybody got a photo of some alphards on a golf?
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 20:05
I'd probably kill a small goat for a set of those merc turbines or the alphards!
Cheers for that ,just googled it and found a load of pics on VW's
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 04 April 2012, 20:10
I'd probably kill a small goat for a set of those merc turbines or the alphards!
Cheers for that ,just googled it and found a load of pics on VW's

Pretty much the sickest wheels ever IMO. I have a friend running them on his LCR on air, such a unique look!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: nolandubholmes on 04 April 2012, 20:13
There's a company that make replica alpahrds now called Motorsport wheels u can get them in 8j
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 20:20
Got to get them on now, they look quality on the mk4's and 5's.  I thought they would look pretty good,that has just confirmed it.
Where is the best place ( cheap :wink:)to get uprated gas shocks to go with the springs i have.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: Wayne on 04 April 2012, 20:49
For a everyday / usable car run 8x18 with 225/40/18's all round (et35) these with a 40mm drop is a spot on setup.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 04 April 2012, 21:27
For a everyday / usable car run 8x18 with 225/40/18's all round (et35) these with a 40mm drop is a spot on setup.
That was the plan until i got these Merc rims. Only way  is to try it and see. Thanks for all your comments
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 April 2012, 22:37
Don't listen to Wanye, he's old and drives a Skoda. Buy the wide wheels and slam the car  :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 04 April 2012, 22:40
Don't listen to Wanye, he's old and drives a Skoda. Buy the wide wheels and slam the car  :wink: :laugh:

+1

Which wheels is it you actually have? The turbines or the alphards? You wana sell em  :nerd:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: JC on 04 April 2012, 22:43
Don't listen to Wanye, he's old and drives a Skoda. Buy the wide wheels and slam the car  :wink: :laugh:


i am old and i drive a vectra  :kiss: do what steve says
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: Wayne on 05 April 2012, 00:00
Don't listen to Wayne, he's old and drives a Skoda

 :shocked:  :grin:  :laugh: not that old yet.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 05 April 2012, 07:59
I'v got the alphards and will be giving them a go when Easter is out of the way.  One more thing should i go with 225 40's or 215 40's ??
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: scarr89 on 05 April 2012, 09:50
I'v got the alphards and will be giving them a go when Easter is out of the way.  One more thing should i go with 225 40's or 215 40's ??

Nothing like a bit of tyre stretch but its up to you! I'd probably go for 205 :lipsrsealed: :evil:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: nolandubholmes on 05 April 2012, 13:41
215/35/18 there give the best stretch
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: mk3tony on 06 April 2012, 19:25
mine rubs like a beesh on the back and catches now and again on the front with 8j wheels all round but my coils are all the way down and tbh you probably would need front arches rolled depending on how low your going to go oh and 15mm spacer on rear and 5mm on front  :smiley:
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af149/cullygti/IMAG0290.jpg)
what is it exactly that gets rolled, the arches are rolled from factory? or are you referring to the arch liner?
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: nolandubholmes on 06 April 2012, 20:01
I've got an arch roller and will do anyone in the lancashire / blackpool area all four for 40 pounds it does make a difference cully I've rolled loads and u can get upto another 5-12mm extra clearance  it makes a big difference obviously it's always best to remove the arch liners and underseal then then chuck liners in the bin !!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 07 April 2012, 00:19
its the arches that get rolled on the inside to stop rub when you use spacers to stop tyre rubbing i HAVE NOT had my arches rolled and you do not need to ditch arch liners if you get them rolled unless you are on air ride in which case you would just cut out the top of the liner to stop rub on top of tyre etc
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: nolandubholmes on 07 April 2012, 17:17
it also slightly flairs them very slighlty allowing more room for wheel width and such i know as does a company down south call arch enemy who remove your arch liners then they underseal them allowing even more room im on 19s with arch liners in and they constantly touch im a mech with an arch roller ive rolled loads of cars from audis to mazdas mx5s to all sorts of random jap / vw slammed vehicles and if possible removing of the arch liners is always best u dont need to be on air ride at all
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 07 April 2012, 17:28
i didnt say you had to be on air ride i said if you are on air ride to stop arch liner rubbing only on the top width of the tyre of course or catching you would have to cut out the top of the liner as cutting it all out looks sh!t.. as when the car is lowered really low on air it would rub the top of the liner on the top of the tire  if that makes sense im sure if you go on ed38 there is no end of threads about arch liners as there are a lot of ppl on there running air ride
http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=444090
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 16 April 2012, 23:49
Golf is all done!! Got it dropped 40mm and put the staggered rims on with 225 40's. It passed the acid test with a car full of kids with all the football gear and had no rubbing at all. I now wish i had dropped it a bit more but that might have been pushing my luck.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 16 April 2012, 23:50
well done fella get some pics up  :cool:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 16 April 2012, 23:58
Wish i could post i picture, been trying but cant do it as i am a computer retard!!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 17 April 2012, 00:15
(http://C:\Users\Stuart\Pictures\2012-04-15 001)
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: rench on 17 April 2012, 10:51
(http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/rench3/d3958a2f.jpg)

my old bora 8.5j front with 10mm spacrs and 9.5j rear no spacers

(http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee429/rench3/3aa451d3.jpg)
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 25 April 2012, 10:24
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t452/911STU/IMG_1922.jpg)
I have only gone and down loaded a photo :grin: A career in IT I think !!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 25 April 2012, 10:33
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t452/911STU/IMG_1923.jpg)
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 25 April 2012, 11:28
that does look really nice but really needs to be lower imo  :cool:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 25 April 2012, 11:51
Yeah,your right,it does need to be slammed.
Gotta keep it practical though as an every day run around,thats why she has it but it beats running about in a stock one.
I have to have at least one practical car !! might as well make it look nice
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 25 April 2012, 12:00
yeah i know what you mean mate.. still looking very nice  :cool:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 26 April 2012, 09:11
Cheers , it will do for now, but the fact that it doesn't rub or catch anywhere did make me wish i had dropped it a bit more . That might have been pushing my luck. The front especially looks high but Milton Keynes(where we live) is the land of the speed ramp too which doesn't help. I have some in my street that the Alpina cant get over without being right up on the pavement!!!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: wretch20vt on 26 April 2012, 09:15
SLAM IT! worry about the road after.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: archie837 on 26 April 2012, 16:34
Sorry if wrong, but was looking earlier and could swear the wheels were on the wrong side  :huh: :huh:

Like they shouldn't cut into the wind as they rotate.  And yeah moar loes

(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh528/wilky1981/0552.jpg)
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 April 2012, 16:43
I bet of you look at the other side of that car the wheels are the other way round fitted the same way as SSTDI

Otherwise they would have to make two different wheels
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: archie837 on 26 April 2012, 16:53
SSTDI get me a picture of the other side of your car ASAP!

My OCD will not rest until I see this.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: archie837 on 26 April 2012, 16:59
IT'S OK!!!
http://maxpowermag.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ace154.jpg

It nearly got as bad as the time I noticed someones tire on the wrong way round on a build thread.
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: cullygti on 26 April 2012, 19:23
i think as nice as they are it would do my head in to  :laugh:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: houston on 26 April 2012, 19:32
Sorry if wrong, but was looking earlier and could swear the wheels were on the wrong side  :huh: :huh:

Like they shouldn't cut into the wind as they rotate.  And yeah moar loes

(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh528/wilky1981/0552.jpg)

there not sided wheels, will look like they go with it on one side and cut into it on the other.

he's selling them wheels too
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: archie837 on 26 April 2012, 20:30
Aye 'twas my bad. :smiley:
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: SSTDI on 28 April 2012, 00:27
They are different on the other side, hadn't thought about that until i just saw this. Funnily enough i started fitting one of the tyres the wrong way round and had to spin it over!!
Title: Re: 8.5 and 9.5 x 18 on a Mk4
Post by: houston on 28 April 2012, 13:22
They are different on the other side, hadn't thought about that until i just saw this. Funnily enough i started fitting one of the tyres the wrong way round and had to spin it over!!

http://www.dubnortheast.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=18741&start=160

just to prove it