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General => The garage => Topic started by: karlos103 on 02 April 2012, 16:17
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Just been to r-tech for remap after having fitted brand new turbo as they said it was overboosting ....well what can i say !!! its never gone this well since ive had it ....had it remapped at chipped uk 5 years back and has never been right ...supposed to be like night and day when remapped but mine never was ....until today !!!!
God knows what chipped uk had put on mine but was useless ....
So big thanks to Nick at R-Tech for sorting my car ...well chuffed now
Karl
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Those are some savage figures mate!
I assume you have a 'newish' clutch? Was that a custom map or just a spec one?
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Do you know what you're peak boost and what you are holding is?
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hi ...have no idea about boost lol ...but as for clutch i think it has started slipping tonight ....was ok yesterday after remap ...could feel more vibration effect through car after remap ...thought was due to more torque ...well today it spun the wheels in second and made the engine bang in its mountings if you know what i mean ...now since that the car vibrates loads more under load ...alright other times but under load it vibrates and feels like its lacking emph ...revs not going up like its slipping bad ...thinking that the pressure plate or dmf cannot handle the torque ....what think ??
anyone got any info on uprated clutch ?? what about this kit
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/southbend-silent-single-mass-flywheel-clutch-kit-for-vw-02m-6-speed-tdi.html
cheers
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hi ...have no idea about boost lol ...but as for clutch i think it has started slipping tonight ....was ok yesterday after remap ...could feel more vibration effect through car after remap ...thought was due to more torque ...well today it spun the wheels in second and made the engine bang in its mountings if you know what i mean ...now since that the car vibrates loads more under load ...alright other times but under load it vibrates and feels like its lacking emph ...revs not going up like its slipping bad ...thinking that the pressure plate or dmf cannot handle the torque ....what think ??
anyone got any info on uprated clutch ?? what about this kit
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/southbend-silent-single-mass-flywheel-clutch-kit-for-vw-02m-6-speed-tdi.html
cheers
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If you can afford it then yes, pretty much the best clutch available. That would easily handle the torque and power!
The map will prob put more stress on your engine mounts and if they are worn then you will obv feel the difference. I replaced my dogbone mount and there is a big difference, more of the power/torque becomes 'usable'.
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hi
I have changed the dog bone and the gearbox mounting this evening ...seemed slight bit better but still there ...so guessing it must be the clutch or flywheel causing the vibration . ....clutch was replaced 70,000 miles back now so guessing the remap has shortened its life !! lol
def looking into that kit off darside ....looks good ..and supposed to be silent which is a bonus ...anyone fitted one ?
karl
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If you are getting quite a bit of vibration even after changing the engine mounts then if could be your DMF failing/failed...
If you get that kit I'll be very jealous! :grin: :laugh:
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Well the vibration effect is mostly only there when under load ...not sure if dmf or clutch lol
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Right.. had another look at car today ...put it in 4th and rocked the car ...there is about 3-4 inches of movement in the clutch before flywheel moves !!! lol ...was told that there should only be upto 15mm ...also the dual mass is only good for 300 foot pounds torque and mine is 322 ...ow well . :laugh:
order the kit off darkside today ...£1062 delivered :shocked: (vat was not on website as its for overseas ordering or something like that so no vat )!!! costing me a fortune this month !! lol
karl
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At least it will be bomb proof now :wink:
So when you going back to darkside for the turbo kit lol?
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lol.... just had new turbo from dealers so not going to do any more modifications to the engine ...want my money's worth out of it ...lol ....im very happy with performance now ...well only had one days worth of it as got to drive it carefully till kit arrives...prob 1 to 2 weeks :(
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Right.. had another look at car today ...put it in 4th and rocked the car ...there is about 3-4 inches of movement in the clutch before flywheel moves !!! lol ...was told that there should only be upto 15mm ...also the dual mass is only good for 300 foot pounds torque and mine is 322 ...ow well . :laugh:
order the kit off darkside today ...£1062 delivered :shocked: (vat was not on website as its for overseas ordering or something like that so no vat )!!! costing me a fortune this month !! lol
karl
Dual mass only good for 300lbs ft?? Lol
My old mk4 was ruuning more torque than that and my Audi is running 330lbs ft
Standard clutch/ flywheel is up for stage 1 power without issues :smiley:
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Right.. had another look at car today ...put it in 4th and rocked the car ...there is about 3-4 inches of movement in the clutch before flywheel moves !!! lol ...was told that there should only be upto 15mm ...also the dual mass is only good for 300 foot pounds torque and mine is 322 ...ow well . :laugh:
order the kit off darkside today ...£1062 delivered :shocked: (vat was not on website as its for overseas ordering or something like that so no vat )!!! costing me a fortune this month !! lol
karl
Dual mass only good for 300lbs ft?? Lol
My old mk4 was ruuning more torque than that and my Audi is running 330lbs ft
Standard clutch/ flywheel is up for stage 1 power without issues :smiley:
and then Adams beast... :grin:
The reason they slip is the cover plate loses clamping force from the spring deterioration. The window for this is around 80-110k. I have remapped car in the dyno and introduced another 20lbft going upto around 270lbft an clutches have slipped straight away.
IMO the is no torque limit on the DMF, its just wear tear and abuse which kills them. I have seen 360+lbft from thr stock DMF and overf 350lbft on a stock 6 speed ARL clutch. (on my 150hp 1.8T Golf is was hitting over 370lbft with nos on the stock clutch and DMF)
For all of our 130pd/150pd stage1 torque outputs an good healthy clutch will be fine with the torque they kick out, stage2 or hybrid setups then an uprated cover plate maybe needed.
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ah right ...been told wrong info then ...ow well lol
well the clutch is not slipping ...its just the dual mass that is at fault ....loads of play in it (transmission vibration under load)...so going down the single mass route now so wont have this issue again ...plus the kit im getting can handle upto 375 foot pounds torque ...
The dealer price for complete clutch kit was around £650 ....sach uprated clutch with standard dmf was around £800 ...other single mass kits around the same price but thought would go for the southbend silent kit ..£1000 ...should handle the torque without any issues .....prob could just fit new dmf but how long would it last ...think false economy ...rather pay one large payment than have to keep buying new clutches every year or so or however long it takes to slip it lol
Trying to take it easy at the mo .....which is hard when i now how well the car goes after the remap ....so much nicer to drive ...feels like a new car ...well it did for 1 day !! lol
Also the clutch in it has done around 70,000 miles and dmf arounf 80,000 so prob due for change ....i remember when i changed the clutch 10,000 miles after dmf was fitted the dmf had play then ...moe than 15mm but not as much as it has now so think something was not right then ...should of changed it again but didnt
Again thanks Nick for sorting the map for me ...well happy with it ... dmf i think has been on way out now for a while but the map has really finished it off ..lol
cannot wait to get kit ...then can put foot down !! lol
karl