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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Pinky 1959 on 25 March 2012, 21:33
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Does anyone have ACC fitted to their Golf GTD and does it make a lot of difference to the ride?
Thanks
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No and if the standard rides too firm get yourself a Ford Cortina or somthing simalar.
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No and if the standard rides too firm get yourself a Ford Cortina or somthing simalar.
^^ :grin:
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Honestly mate, save the doe as you won't need it...the std drive is good enough!
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Yes imo its one thing I really wish I had.
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ive got it in mine and it is good but save the cash, i call it baby mode or sport mode as my daugher is 5 months old and its like a magic carpet in comfort mode for her
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Does anyone have ACC fitted to their Golf GTD and does it make a lot of difference to the ride?
Thanks
Don't have it, don't want it. The ride is perfect for the type of car it is.
Jim
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ive got it in mine and it is good but save the cash, i call it baby mode or sport mode as my daugher is 5 months old and its like a magic carpet in comfort mode for her
:grin: your love it when she starts kicking the back of your seat, LOL not! :wink:
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Does anyone have ACC fitted to their Golf GTD and does it make a lot of difference to the ride?
Thanks
Not on a GTD, but a GTI...
Yes in makes a lot of difference.
Yes it's worth it.
I wouldn't have one without.
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I had it on my Roc and couldnt tell the difference, hence why I didnt bother on my 35.
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Not got it. Don't want it. The standard ride is great. Solid as a rock.
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Not got it. Don't want it. The standard ride is great. Solid as a rock.
Standard ride can be better - as it is with ACC in Dynamic/Normal.
Standard ride on potholed roads can be crashy...but tamed with ACC in 'Comfort' which helps protect wheels from bending.
Standard steering can be a bit dim witted and it can be challenging to get the rear end to play - both addressed in 'Sport' with ACC
But at the end of the day...if someone can't tell the difference, don't pay for it.
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Standard ride on potholed roads can be crashy...but tamed with ACC in 'Comfort' which helps protect wheels from bending.
really :rolleyes:
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Standard ride on potholed roads can be crashy...but tamed with ACC in 'Comfort' which helps protect wheels from bending.
really :rolleyes:
Yup...if you are running big wheels and drive on crap roads.
I've egged tyres and bent 16", 17" and 18" wheels on Aberdeen's crappest roads...but no damage on my 19"s since using 'Comfort' on the awful roads.
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Standard ride on potholed roads can be crashy...but tamed with ACC in 'Comfort' which helps protect wheels from bending.
really :rolleyes:
Yup...if you are running big wheels and drive on crap roads.
I've egged tyres and bent 16", 17" and 18" wheels on Aberdeen's crappest roads...but no damage on my 19"s since using 'Comfort' on the awful roads.
I would have thought the opposite. Having a more comfortable ride would usually mean less care and attention to potholes.. therefore more likely to cause damage :undecided:
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Depends what you after!
If you don't need a comfortable ride and had no intention to have the car on 18s, I will spend that money somewhere else.
I had mine on comfort setting 99% of my driving! Even if I use the sport mode on my GTI with 17s, it still rides better than my mother's GTI on 18s without acc.
THE BIGGER WHEELS AFFECT THE CAR HANDLING AND RIDE MORE THAN THE ACC!
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I would have thought the opposite. Having a more comfortable ride would usually mean less care and attention to potholes.. therefore more likely to cause damage :undecided:
Not so with me.
I avoid potholes wherever I can...but sometimes you get caught.
Low speed means you drop right into a hole you may have skipped over at high speed, so more chance of egging a tyre or bending an inner rim - in my experience.
The considerably lesser 'bump' damping in 'Comfort' means the suspension gives more and helps protect the wheel/tyre.
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In which case, despite thinking that the GTI has pretty good suspension anyway.... i would probably spec it. I do like toys :evil:
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Depends what you after!
If you don't need a comfortable ride and had no intention to have the car on 18s, I will spend that money somewhere else.
I had mine on comfort setting 99% of my driving! Even if I use the sport mode on my GTI with 17s, it still rides better than my mother's GTI on 18s without acc.
THE BIGGER WHEELS AFFECT THE CAR HANDLING AND RIDE MORE THAN THE ACC!
If anyone is looking for a Lexus like ride, then they have bought the wrong car...and I agree, the higher the sidewall profile, the more comfortable it will be, at the expense of precise turn in.
I swap from 18" winters to 19" summers and the 18s are noticably less edgy and give a smoother ride...whilst the 19s are noticably 'nicer' to drive at pace as the car just feels more alive and responds more quickly.
I drove a Mk5 GTI on 17s recently...and it felt really wooly next to my Mk6 on 19s.
The bottom line remains, if it's not worth the money to you, don't pay for it.
But the ability to sharpen the handling when I want it, and soften the damping to protect wheels/tyres or give a smoother ride on crap roads, makes it an appealling proposition for me...and well worth the asking price.
Put it this way, if you can have a more comfortable ride than a standard GTI on 17" wheels and the turn in and chassis balance close to the best coilovers with 19" wheels, all at the press of a button...what's not to like?
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In which case, despite thinking that the GTI has pretty good suspension anyway.... i would probably spec it. I do like toys :evil:
I agree, the GTI has got very good suspension...a very good chassis in general...but that doesn't mean that to some - me included - the ability to hone the way the suspension responds to the road/my mood, isn't an advantage...because it is.
Put it this way...I paid for an RNS510 and I've never used the Sat Nav...I use no more than I did the RCD510, except the direction indicator on the dash...so all in all, I spent £1000 on something I don't use.
I spent £750 on ACC that I use every journey.
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Had it on my Audi TT. I thought it was a bit gimmicky.
So not bothered this time around.
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If you don't have it you can't possibly comment on it!!
It does make quite a difference to the ride but obviously that depends on how you drive your car.
I wouldn't spec a car without it TBH.
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Not worth it IMO. I have used this on demo cars and most of my trips take in B roads, dual carriage ways and town all in the same trip so I ended up switching the ACC to suit which didnt work out for me.
I have std suspension and run 19" and the ride is firm (its a GTI) and have noticed on poor roads and it can be slightly crashy compared to 18" but the steering and turn in are better than 18". I would consider this if ACC worked automatically and firmed up the suspension when pressing on e.g. when you need it. It does make a difference and if this is must then go for it but its not for me.
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I would consider this if ACC worked automatically and firmed up the suspension when pressing on e.g. when you need it. It does make a difference and if this is must then go for it but its not for me.
It does.
It measures acceleration force, lean angles and braking force to automatically adjust the damping within a set range.
http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function (http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function)
But you can force it into softer or harder base settings for the upper and lower limits of the damping control.
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I would consider this if ACC worked automatically and firmed up the suspension when pressing on e.g. when you need it. It does make a difference and if this is must then go for it but its not for me.
It does.
It measures acceleration force, lean angles and braking force to automatically adjust the damping within a set range.
http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function (http://www.my-gti.com/2653/volkswagen-dcc-adaptive-chassis-control-design-and-function)
But you can force it into softer or harder base settings for the upper and lower limits of the damping control.
Interesting thanks. As you say adjusts the damping within a set range, I wish that range included Comfort and Sport as you wouldnt need to switch it at all and that is the functionality which would tempt me to add this as an extra, it must be possible with all these sensors fitted?
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Interesting thanks. As you say adjusts the damping within a set range, I wish that range included Comfort and Sport as you wouldnt need to switch it at all and that is the functionality which would tempt me to add this as an extra, it must be possible with all these sensors fitted?
I agree...but then I guess it wouldn't know if you wanted the car to be soft, or hard, or in the middle, so I can see the point of the selections.
What's not clear, is if the damping maps overlap, so could the controller select a setting as hard as the upper end of 'Sport' if the selection was 'Normal'? I don't know.
Plus, the controller adjusts the weighting of the steering assistance.
I'm hoping someone will finally crack the coding so you can adjust the damping ranges and steering weighting outwith the standard modes - personally, I can live with the damping, but would like the steering response of 'Sport' when in 'Dynamic'.
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Thanks for all the replies swimbo is considering changing her car and I would like acc but its quite pricey and the standard car may be to bumpy on rough roads for her , A full days test drive soon hopefully to try it out .