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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: redmaster on 23 March 2012, 15:30
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Hello,
I'm new to the forum, so firstly hi !
I have a quick question - I would like to (satge 1) remap my Golf GTI MK5 - R-tech show a Stage 1 map on their website for £200, but having phoned them they've told me that the cheapest price is actually £290?
Has anyone had a £200 remap or know why I've been quoted £290 (I'm wondering if the person on the phone made a mistake)?
If I do have to start paying towards £300, I might shop around elsewhere but heard good reviews about R-tech...just feel that a 50% hike in price means that I need to put more thought into who I choose !
Thanks in advance.
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VAG REMAP = AUDI –SEAT – SKODA – VW
Years 2003 - 2008 2.0TDI PD/ CR - 1.9TDI PD / 2.0TFSI & NA
Base Map = £99
Spec1 Performance = £200
Spec1 Custom Map = £290
Spec2 Custom Map = £350
Spec2+ HPFP TFSI = £390
SP3 Live Custom Map = £490 (bigger turbos)
DPF Mapping/ Hardware = £695
£200 is for a generic remap which we dont offer anymore as we are finding car react better to the maps being setup on the rolling road, with data logging and map alterations to match how your car has worn and bedded in ect.. We can provide the £200 genric stage 1 as a mobile service, but you would still need to cover Bens fuel costs.
The way we look at it is if we have the tools, equipment to provide a better remap in house by using the dyno then why compromise? Our mk5 spec1 custom remap have been getting some of the best results on rr days and reading upto 15-20bhp more than the generic stuff.
I think at £290 for health check, PCV remove check, DV remove check, rollling logging, pre remap power runs, 2+ hours custom map setup time, post remap power runs, TOP quality remap, graphs on a CD, free sticker and keyring (lol) is a bloody good price which will never be beat.
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Hello,
Rob did explain fully on the phone the price structures and whats involved with a £290 spec1 custom.
VAG REMAP = AUDI –SEAT – SKODA – VW
Years 2003 - 2008 2.0TDI PD/ CR - 1.9TDI PD / 2.0TFSI & NA
Spec1 Performance = £200
Spec1 Custom Map = £290
Spec2 Custom Map = £350
Spec2+ HPFP TFSI = £390
SP3 Live Custom Map = £490 (bigger turbos)
DPF Mapping/ Hardware = £695
£200 is for a generic remap which we dont offer anymore as we are finding car react better to the maps being setup on the rolling road, with data logging and map alterations to match how your car has worn and bedded in ect.. We can provide the £200 genric stage 1 as a mobile service, but you would still need to cover Bens fuel costs.
The way we look at it is if we have the tools, equipment to provide a better remap in house by using the dyno then why compromise? Our mk5 spec1 custom remap have been getting some of the best results on rr days and reading upto 15-20bhp more than the generic stuff.
I think at £290 for health check, PCV remove check, DV remove check, rollling logging, pre remap power runs, 2+ hours custom map setup time, post remap power runs, TOP quality remap, graphs on a CD, free sticker and keyring (lol) is a bloody good price which will never be beat.
:wink:
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VAG REMAP = AUDI –SEAT – SKODA – VW
Years 2003 - 2008 2.0TDI PD/ CR - 1.9TDI PD / 2.0TFSI & NA
Base Map = £99
Spec1 Performance = £200
Spec1 Custom Map = £290
Spec2 Custom Map = £350
Spec2+ HPFP TFSI = £390
SP3 Live Custom Map = £490 (bigger turbos)
DPF Mapping/ Hardware = £695
£200 is for a generic remap which we dont offer anymore as we are finding car react better to the maps being setup on the rolling road, with data logging and map alterations to match how your car has worn and bedded in ect.. We can provide the £200 genric stage 1 as a mobile service, but you would still need to cover Bens fuel costs.
The way we look at it is if we have the tools, equipment to provide a better remap in house by using the dyno then why compromise? Our mk5 spec1 custom remap have been getting some of the best results on rr days and reading upto 15-20bhp more than the generic stuff.
I think at £290 for health check, PCV remove check, DV remove check, rollling logging, pre remap power runs, 2+ hours custom map setup time, post remap power runs, TOP quality remap, graphs on a CD, free sticker and keyring (lol) is a bloody good price which will never be beat.
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Thanks for that additional explanation - I now understand the context...I thought there was a price hike with a few additional bits thrown in.
Understanding the positioning as to why the £200 service is removed for on-site remap and the additional power available through a custom map makes sense and helps re my decision making.
My car has done nearly 50k miles and is a 2006 (stock)...going for a bit of a driving holiday in a few weeks and want to ensure the car is ok with the remap...so your pre-checks provide confidence.
Is there anything obvious that it is likely that I will need to sort upfront based on your experience e.g. clutch, dv - trying to work out overall cost of doing this?
Also I'm guessing to go back to stock post remap is the £99 ?
Cheers
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going back to stock is free! :smiley:
Only thing you might find is your DV is weak, but nick has them in stock :smiley:
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Thanks Maxx.
Out of interest, some have claimed a drastic mpg reduction - is this likely based on the same driving as pre-remap?
In addition I'm assuming the ecu is flashed - on another forum it is claimed that when the battery is removed the remap goes...can't believe that as surely the ecu is directly flashed with the map?
Cheers
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Thanks Maxx.
Out of interest, some have claimed a drastic mpg reduction - is this likely based on the same driving as pre-remap?
In addition I'm assuming the ecu is flashed - on another forum it is claimed that when the battery is removed the remap goes...can't believe that as surely the ecu is directly flashed with the map?
Cheers
Old wives tale that one :grin: :grin:
Drive sensibly and your MPG will improve but lets be honest you bought a GTI to enjoy not to pootle about in :wink:
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Hi Nick,
I too have a mk5 GTI, you say your map gets 15-20bhp more than generic maps, what sort of numbers you talking about?
im looking at getting my 2005 gti remapped soon, engine code AXX its also the DSG.
If i wanted the car mapped and the DSG mapped as well, what kind of power and torque figures do you reckon i will be at?
and how much monies would i be looking at?
i only want to come to you guys, i have heard nothing but pure awesomeness about you guys!
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Hi Nick,
I too have a mk5 GTI, you say your map gets 15-20bhp more than generic maps, what sort of numbers you talking about?
im looking at getting my 2005 gti remapped soon, engine code AXX its also the DSG.
If i wanted the car mapped and the DSG mapped as well, what kind of power and torque figures do you reckon i will be at?
and how much monies would i be looking at?
i only want to come to you guys, i have heard nothing but pure awesomeness about you guys!
Hello,
You looking around 240-245bhp and 260-300lbft depending on the actual software version, most of the extra gain from a custom map is not on the peak power numbers its more to do with volume/area under the torque curve. but from what we have been seeing from RR days the results from our custom mapping are getting some of the best number and smoothest curves.
With the R-Tech engine remap you will get a FREE base DSG map to up the torque limiters to allow for a stronger smoother peak torque area. For £390 you can have the custom engine remap plus a custom DSG remap set to how you want it, rpm limiter shift limiters, launch speeds ect... The results and feedback we are getting from the new DGS setup is very good. The full R-Tech DSG remap offer as standard 30% quicker upshift speeds, full manual mode whih will hold the gear, S mode which will anticipate the best gear for speed,
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Hi Nick,
I too have a mk5 GTI, you say your map gets 15-20bhp more than generic maps, what sort of numbers you talking about?
im looking at getting my 2005 gti remapped soon, engine code AXX its also the DSG.
If i wanted the car mapped and the DSG mapped as well, what kind of power and torque figures do you reckon i will be at?
and how much monies would i be looking at?
i only want to come to you guys, i have heard nothing but pure awesomeness about you guys!
Hello,
You looking around 240-245bhp and 260-300lbft depending on the actual software version, most of the extra gain from a custom map is not on the peak power numbers its more to do with volume/area under the torque curve. but from what we have been seeing from RR days the results from our custom mapping are getting some of the best number and smoothest curves.
With the R-Tech engine remap you will get a FREE base DSG map to up the torque limiters to allow for a stronger smoother peak torque area. For £390 you can have the custom engine remap plus a custom DSG remap set to how you want it, rpm limiter shift limiters, launch speeds ect... The results and feedback we are getting from the new DGS setup is very good. The full R-Tech DSG remap offer as standard 30% quicker upshift speeds, full manual mode whih will hold the gear, S mode which will anticipate the best gear for speed,
Hi Nick ,
Do you guys do any free "time restricted" trials?
I've never had a remap before and want to make sure that I like it before I start parting with nearly £300 (or closer to £400 once I add insurance in).
I know normally within 5 mins of driving whether I'll get on with something or not - so a trial would be ideal.
If you don't do trials, do you have any mk5 gtis already stage 1 mapped that someone can be taken out in?
Sorry for the questions...
Thanks
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Hi Nick,
I too have a mk5 GTI, you say your map gets 15-20bhp more than generic maps, what sort of numbers you talking about?
im looking at getting my 2005 gti remapped soon, engine code AXX its also the DSG.
If i wanted the car mapped and the DSG mapped as well, what kind of power and torque figures do you reckon i will be at?
and how much monies would i be looking at?
i only want to come to you guys, i have heard nothing but pure awesomeness about you guys!
Hello,
You looking around 240-245bhp and 260-300lbft depending on the actual software version, most of the extra gain from a custom map is not on the peak power numbers its more to do with volume/area under the torque curve. but from what we have been seeing from RR days the results from our custom mapping are getting some of the best number and smoothest curves.
With the R-Tech engine remap you will get a FREE base DSG map to up the torque limiters to allow for a stronger smoother peak torque area. For £390 you can have the custom engine remap plus a custom DSG remap set to how you want it, rpm limiter shift limiters, launch speeds ect... The results and feedback we are getting from the new DGS setup is very good. The full R-Tech DSG remap offer as standard 30% quicker upshift speeds, full manual mode whih will hold the gear, S mode which will anticipate the best gear for speed,
hey nick,
thanks for the detailed reply!
i think i will be saving my pennies and visiting you guys in the near future! only other thing is with the standard DV i have read these are very prone to go, what would you suggest as to uprating it? as far as i know the one from the k04 turbo doesnt fit? or am i being a numpty (newbie to turbos)
oh, also, were you by chance at the fast show on sunday? i was one run behind a black mk4 golf with a rollcage and rtech stickers all over it and it did a pretty quick run! by quick, about 12 seconds! lol
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Hi Nick,
I too have a mk5 GTI, you say your map gets 15-20bhp more than generic maps, what sort of numbers you talking about?
im looking at getting my 2005 gti remapped soon, engine code AXX its also the DSG.
If i wanted the car mapped and the DSG mapped as well, what kind of power and torque figures do you reckon i will be at?
and how much monies would i be looking at?
i only want to come to you guys, i have heard nothing but pure awesomeness about you guys!
Hello,
You looking around 240-245bhp and 260-300lbft depending on the actual software version, most of the extra gain from a custom map is not on the peak power numbers its more to do with volume/area under the torque curve. but from what we have been seeing from RR days the results from our custom mapping are getting some of the best number and smoothest curves.
With the R-Tech engine remap you will get a FREE base DSG map to up the torque limiters to allow for a stronger smoother peak torque area. For £390 you can have the custom engine remap plus a custom DSG remap set to how you want it, rpm limiter shift limiters, launch speeds ect... The results and feedback we are getting from the new DGS setup is very good. The full R-Tech DSG remap offer as standard 30% quicker upshift speeds, full manual mode whih will hold the gear, S mode which will anticipate the best gear for speed,
Hi Nick ,
Do you guys do any free "time restricted" trials?
I've never had a remap before and want to make sure that I like it before I start parting with nearly £300 (or closer to £400 once I add insurance in).
I know normally within 5 mins of driving whether I'll get on with something or not - so a trial would be ideal.
If you don't do trials, do you have any mk5 gtis already stage 1 mapped that someone can be taken out in?
Sorry for the questions...
Thanks
Just do it :evil:
Best money I ever spent on my car :laugh: , although DSG map wasn't available when I had mine done last year. Will be having that loaded when I've got some pennies together
Both you guys should look at the R-Tech customer cars thread (in remapping board) to get paper proof of figures, and also accurate reviews of how awesome the maps are...
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Do you really feel the difference?
On a scale of 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest) what would you class the change by remap as?
I'm looking for a very noitecable increase in the "pushed into the seat" feeling when accelerating, but I want to retain the power delivery curve of the stock car as I dislike excessive wheelspin etc - would a r-tech remap achieve both of those?
(sorry I'm trying to build a picture of the experience before I part with £350 quid odd)
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Do you really feel the difference?
On a scale of 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest) what would you class the change by remap as?
I'm looking for a very noitecable increase in the "pushed into the seat" feeling when accelerating, but I want to retain the power delivery curve of the stock car as I dislike excessive wheelspin etc - would a r-tech remap achieve both of those?
(sorry I'm trying to build a picture of the experience before I part with £350 quid odd)
Night and Day! :wink:
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Where are R-Tech based?
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Leicestershire mate :smiley:
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Do you really feel the difference?
On a scale of 1 (lowest) to 10 (highest) what would you class the change by remap as?
I'm looking for a very noitecable increase in the "pushed into the seat" feeling when accelerating, but I want to retain the power delivery curve of the stock car as I dislike excessive wheelspin etc - would a r-tech remap achieve both of those?
(sorry I'm trying to build a picture of the experience before I part with £350 quid odd)
Night and Day! :wink:
I think I might just have to try it in that case! I'll drop you a call to book in...really want it done before Easter weekend...just need to be able to get some petrol first so I can get to your place!!!
Do you reckon you'll have any slots open before easter weeeknd?
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Leicestershire mate :smiley:
Thanks... i will look into this soon "mwaaahahhhaahahah" :evil:
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My one is booked in with R-Tech for a stage 1 now - decided to take the plunge as the only way to find out for sure is to try it...will let you know how I get on!
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Nice sig pic gilly !! Looks familiar :laugh:
name change next? Ed30UK :evil:
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Anyone who is unsure about getting an r-tech should not be! I have had my mk5 gti remapped for nearly a year now and I still love the kick back I get from the remap. Nick did a great job and checks everything on the car before uploading, proper job, nick knows what he is doing and isnt a tinpot chav with a laptop operating out of a rascal van. This is a quality remap, very smooth, loads of torque gain and a good kick from the turbo. Really transforms the car. Just wanted to big up r-tech!
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Nice sig pic gilly !! Looks familiar :laugh:
name change next? Ed30UK :evil:
not likely :grin:
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Hi nick I have mk5 gt tdi 170pd and looking into a re-map and been reading that this engine is not the greatest as in tunning.
CVould you give me your thoughts and ideas please
Andy
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Hi nick I have mk5 gt tdi 170pd and looking into a re-map and been reading that this engine is not the greatest as in tunning.
CVould you give me your thoughts and ideas please
Andy
I'm not Nick but I'm running the same engine in my Audi
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A3/OY57UTM.gif)
That's with the DPF in place. I've covered approx 12,000 miles on the map with no issues so far :smiley:
Shame you're not closer as I could take your for a spin.
Issues only really occur if you ignore the DPF warning lights; the sensors tend to fail thus leading to the pipe clogging up and you hit severe problems
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Any graphs of ed30 remaps nick?? :smiley:
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This one's for R-TECH -
Is there any pre-checks that you guys carry out to make sure the DSG box is in a good enough condition, before carrying out any re-mapping?
I had my previous, manual GTI remapped - but I'm getting a little worried about getting the current, DSG version one done.
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Conclusion to this thread............
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=226714.msg2094911#msg2094911
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This one's for R-TECH -
Is there any pre-checks that you guys carry out to make sure the DSG box is in a good enough condition, before carrying out any re-mapping?
I had my previous, manual GTI remapped - but I'm getting a little worried about getting the current, DSG version one done.
We carry out visual inspections and VDCS diagnostics on the engine and DSG, there is no way of knowing the internal condition of the engine, turbo and gear box. Thats the risk with any kind of tuning, saying that major issues with the TFSI and DSG are very very rare. I have mapped my cars with DSG at all stages, TFSI and TDI and as far as I know no one customer has had DSG related issues post remap.
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I can vouch for Nick and the team at -Tech as i had my car custom mapped (Stage 1 ) almost 2 yrs ago now..
Worth every penny and more. :smiley: