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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Big Tone on 20 March 2012, 07:22
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Post your name up if you want some made, most probably be out of aluminium, these will be made as per cullygti's'
He has supplied me with the original fitting, so if you have the same can as him all is good, if you dont, and know the thread/dimensions you want,i can also make them up.
If you would like any variance on dimensions e.g. 18.5mm instead of 19mm, (so the hoses arent as tight a fit) then just say so.
depending on the response, ill get some material ordered up and start some machining.
May even put these on the bay, but first dibs/better prices go to you guys.
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How much ££ we likely to be talking?
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How much ££ we likely to be talking?
Thinking 10 is a fair price, for a pair.
Do need a few though as the material can only be bought in lengths.
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I'm interested in a pair made to the same spec as cullygti's.
I have the same catch can but I have decided to mod mine slightly, I've stretched out a steel wire scourer and dropped it into the can. I've also got some copper plumbing pipe (12 or 15mm I will check when I get home) and bent it slightly and also drilled a couple of holes down the side. I am going to epoxy that to the inside of the inlet fitting so that the gasses have to pass through the scourer baffle first. Thats my cheapo bodge to copy the saikou michi internals. http://www.saikoumichi.com/OCC_explanation.htm (http://www.saikoumichi.com/OCC_explanation.htm)
Would you be able to lengthen the thread of one of the fittings or possibly machine it so the copper pipe can slide over or into the fitting?
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I'm interested in a pair made to the same spec as cullygti's.
I have the same catch can but I have decided to mod mine slightly, I've stretched out a steel wire scourer and dropped it into the can. I've also got some copper plumbing pipe (12 or 15mm I will check when I get home) and bent it slightly and also drilled a couple of holes down the side. I am going to epoxy that to the inside of the inlet fitting so that the gasses have to pass through the scourer baffle first. Thats my cheapo bodge to copy the saikou michi internals. http://www.saikoumichi.com/OCC_explanation.htm (http://www.saikoumichi.com/OCC_explanation.htm)
Would you be able to lengthen the thread of one of the fittings or possibly machine it so the copper pipe can slide over or into the fitting?
Dont know, it depends on the bore dia, dont know if there will be enough meat on there, ill have a look tonight pal.
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i already tried a bush on the threadded part and it is a very loose fit, if it was tightened with a sealent all the way to the base it may work but as i said with a 3/8 bush it is loose would need a metric bush but in the plumbing world there is no such fitting!!!!
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i already tried a bush on the threadded part and it is a very loose fit, if it was tightened with a sealent all the way to the base it may work but as i said with a 3/8 bush it is loose would need a metric bush but in the plumbing world there is no such fitting!!!!
Not entirely sure what you are telling me here bud?
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if you were to put the pipe onto the thread inside the can after screwing it into the top there isnt a plumbing fitting that fits well, so unless you spin a thread onto the inside to put a connector in there but the restriction would be so much there would be no point making the 19mm connectors in the first place :huh:
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if you were to put the pipe onto the thread inside the can after screwing it into the top there isnt a plumbing fitting that fits well, so unless you spin a thread onto the inside to put a connector in there but the restriction would be so much there would be no point making the 19mm connectors in the first place :huh:
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if you were to put the pipe onto the thread inside the can after screwing it into the top there isnt a plumbing fitting that fits well, so unless you spin a thread onto the inside to put a connector in there but the restriction would be so much there would be no point making the 19mm connectors in the first place :huh:
Could I not make the internal bore of the threaded end the same as the od of the 15mm pipe?(as long as there is enough material on the fitting.
The only issue then is securing the pipe once the fitting Is in place. I could make it a "press" fit.
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if you were to put the pipe onto the thread inside the can after screwing it into the top there isnt a plumbing fitting that fits well, so unless you spin a thread onto the inside to put a connector in there but the restriction would be so much there would be no point making the 19mm connectors in the first place :huh:
Could I not make the internal bore of the threaded end the same as the od of the 15mm pipe?(as long as there is enough material on the fitting.
The only issue then is securing the pipe once the fitting Is in place. I could make it a "press" fit.
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if your making the thread EXACTLY the same as what the can came with then a 15mm end feed straight connector is a very tight fit - wont just push on but itll be no good to cut a thread in, but i have just hammered it on and i tell you now it aint coming off!!!!
but this is no good if its needed to be unscrewed back out of the can :undecided:
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if your making the thread EXACTLY the same as what the can came with then a 15mm end feed straight connector is a very tight fit - wont just push on but itll be no good to cut a thread in, but i have just hammered it on and i tell you now it aint coming off!!!!
but this is no good if its needed to be unscrewed back out of the can :undecided:
Can u take a pic?
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(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/rioracer/20347da0.jpg)
L/h/s i pit a straight on there to see for sizing but as it still needs to be screwed into the can i guessing you would need to make the thread about 1" long so 1/2" is screwed in adn 1/2" is hanging out the back to get a 45 onto it with a bit of pipe soldered onto it to get the angle
r/h/s is what it would look like when done properly
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One of the issues I found is that the thread does not protrude on the inside of the can. Meaning a push over or push into connection cannot be used. So I used a pipe bender to physically bend the pipe instead of using a connector.
I found that the pipe sort of fits into the threaded hole where the connector isn't long enough to screw into. So when the connector is screwed in as far as possible I was going to push the pipe into the hole against the connector and epoxy the crap out of it (technical term)
I will take a picture when I get home to explain it better
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I understand what u mean but u must be using 12mm pipe do int diameter is 10mm I think that is very restrictive but if big tone is to make the fitting he can make the thread twice as long
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the ones i had made into 19mm was without any thought what so ever i went an seen chap and said can you make this into that he said yes happy days... they can be made with a bit more to them or input into how they will work better etc.... the fit with 2 19mm silicone pipes is very tight and you may struggle to get your jubilee clips on so what i did was shave the ends of my pipe down very carefully as this was all i could do at the time... tbh i think the best way around this would is to have one fitting longer than the other it will not have your jubilee clips side by side but sort of offset so 1 fitting at say 1 inch lenght and the 2nd fitting at say 2 inch lenght this is just an example its the only easy way i can think of doing it there is another option but its just a lot of engineering for what it is and would not be cost effective hth :smiley:
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I understand what u mean but u must be using 12mm pipe do int diameter is 10mm I think that is very restrictive but if big tone is to make the fitting he can make the thread twice as long
Yup
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the ones i had made into 19mm was without any thought what so ever i went an seen chap and said can you make this into that he said yes happy days... they can be made with a bit more to them or input into how they will work better etc.... the fit with 2 19mm silicone pipes is very tight and you may struggle to get your jubilee clips on so what i did was shave the ends of my pipe down very carefully as this was all i could do at the time... tbh i think the best way around this would is to have one fitting longer than the other it will not have your jubilee clips side by side but sort of offset so 1 fitting at say 1 inch lenght and the 2nd fitting at say 2 inch lenght this is just an example its the only easy way i can think of doing it there is another option but its just a lot of engineering for what it is and would not be cost effective hth :smiley:
No problem at all.
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So here is a pic of the copper pipe I have bent. It has an external diameter of 15mm and internal around 12mm. Do you reckon the connector could be machined down to fit inside it?
(https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PJkDkRxA2hWC0xNILek1yM5IraxAqgCvYXyvNbJrou8?feat=directlink)
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PJkDkRxA2hWC0xNILek1yM5IraxAqgCvYXyvNbJrou8?feat=directlink
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So here is a pic of the copper pipe I have bent. It has an external diameter of 15mm and internal around 12mm. Do you reckon the connector could be machined down to fit inside it?
(https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PJkDkRxA2hWC0xNILek1yM5IraxAqgCvYXyvNbJrou8?feat=directlink)
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PJkDkRxA2hWC0xNILek1yM5IraxAqgCvYXyvNbJrou8?feat=directlink
Sure can, the only thing is, if the bore is 12mm and the connector fits inside this, the final bore will be about 8-10mm, is this not a bit restrictive?
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i dont understand where this is going the idea of having custom 19mm fittings is because the pipe that you remove is 19mm so it makes it easier to use all 19mm when refitting instead of having to reduce the size half way through :undecided:
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i dont understand where this is going the idea of having custom 19mm fittings is because the pipe that you remove is 19mm so it makes it easier to use all 19mm when refitting instead of having to reduce the size half way through :undecided:
I agree, you asked if I could skim the fittings so that a 12mm bore pipe will fit over it, therefor the fittings internal diameter will have to be smaller.
What about using larger diameter pipe for the internals?
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That's exactly what I mean that's why if u use 15mm pipe like I pictured it's not any less restrictive than the threaded hole in the catch can
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why do pppl want a pipe running into the can from the fittings to me (im being a bit dumb at the mo trying to think ) wouldnt it just be summat extra that is going to get clogged up and full of crap inside the can making it harder to get out or more cleaning time when cleaning taking it apart or is it to stop any thing coming back up through to the turbo as personally i think its a worse idea thats just my opinion :undecided: someone explain lol :grin:
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why do pppl want a pipe running into the can from the fittings to me (im being a bit dumb at the mo trying to think ) wouldnt it just be summat extra that is going to get clogged up and full of crap inside the can making it harder to get out or more cleaning time when cleaning taking it apart or is it to stop any thing coming back up through to the turbo as personally i think its a worse idea thats just my opinion :undecided: someone explain lol :grin:
Sorry pal, I'm thinking about the wrong thing, lol
Think it is to aid condensation, bit like a baffle.
@rio-gti
Spot on as pictured, thats what I thought culygti was talking about,
Lol, rough weekend. :grin:
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Yes you're right it will be restrictive. I was just playing around with different options to see what would be best. A push into or onto fit wont work with my pipe. I think I will be going for the setup you've shown Rio.
Cully the pipe is there to try and replicate the baffles in more expensive catch cans e.g. Saikou Mitchi
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Big Tone would you be able to make me 2 of the 19mm fittings with 1 inch long thread.
What is the cost and how would you like payment?
Thanks
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Right, bad news :angry:
£90 for one length of stainless, so me making them is scuppered, I have however found a link where you can order custom made fittings, (you specify the dimensions/thread required on either side) out of brass for £5 a pop.
Will get the link up when I'm home.
I will however keep an eye out for smaller lengths and see what I can do.
Sorry chaps, but knowing my luck ill sell half a dozen sets and be left with a lump of stainless :laugh:
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shame that mate but bloody expensive
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Well thats not good. Thanks for trying tho Big Tone.
Cully, where did you get yours made up?
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local engineering company mate
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Found a couple of places on eBay that do brass fittings for fuel / oil / water fitments. Will give an update once I have chosen and fitted