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Title: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 20:26
Just recently purchased a set of BBS CH replicas (ET35 18x8) from a company off ebay......like a nob I did't try the wheels on and went and got them powder coated followed by a set of tyres. To then find out that the hub is too big for the wheel (not sure how to explain it properly), but only by a couple of mm. Has anyone got any ideas as to what I can do, as I now can't send them back as they're now powder coated?????


Please help  :cry:

Dave
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 20:29
Sorry it's for my MK4 Golf GTI
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Post by: justalex81 on 15 March 2012, 20:43
and the pcd of the wheels (the important bit of info we need to help you)?
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 15 March 2012, 20:43
by the hub is too big, do you mean the PDC is the wrong size? if so get some adaptors
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 20:59
I rang the bloke and he said they would fit my MK4. It is the wrong 'pdc' size but (as daft as this sounds) how do I measure it as there is nothing on the box nor did he state?

Thanks  :smiley:
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 15 March 2012, 21:04
hopefully it will be written on the alloy.

normally will be written as 5x100 (the correct size for mk4 iirc)

if not you may have to measure it, search on google should bring up results, however if you were told they would fit ide take them out tomoro in the light and double check they definatly dont fit, if they dont then ide be making him replace them, his fault for not sending the correct goods.
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 21:06
I thought spigot rings where for when the wheel is too big, not too small? I'm having a mare as i've spent a fair bit already and don't want to spend too much more  :embarassed:
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 21:15
hopefully it will be written on the alloy.

normally will be written as 5x100 (the correct size for mk4 iirc)

if not you may have to measure it, search on google should bring up results, however if you were told they would fit ide take them out tomoro in the light and double check they definatly dont fit, if they dont then ide be making him replace them, his fault for not sending the correct goods.

I think it does say 112 as I've got them in the house. Is there any quick solution, obviously without damaging the wheel? Really pissed off with the bloke as he never stated they were 112  :cry:
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Post by: justalex81 on 15 March 2012, 21:32
they are 5x112. the correct size for a mk5 golf not a mk4.

adapters are the only way. expect a 2nd hand set to cost approx £100
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 21:38
Alright, cheers pal. Any ideas as to where to get them from and what size of adapters? Just looked at the box and it says 5x100. Basically I've looked inside and there is a second lip which is basically stopping them from slotting straight on   :huh:
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Post by: benvictors on 15 March 2012, 21:45
Im confused, are the wheels 5x100 or 5x112?
Will the wheels sit flush on the hubs but the bolt holes are out of position??
Or, will the wheels not sit flush on the hubs??
Or, both????????  :huh: :huh:
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Post by: mcgee9t2 on 15 March 2012, 21:46
take pictures of you trying to fit the wheels, im starting to get confused now as to weather your needing adaptors or not and as to which part is not the right size  :grin:
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Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 22:06
I'll upload a photo (If I can as I've never done it before). Its the centre that too big. And basically the box says 5x100 but the wheel (and it hard to see) I think says 112
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Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 22:11
(http://photo.JPG)
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Post by: dom on 15 March 2012, 22:20
My guess is that the powder coating is to blame, the extra paint on the wheel means that the centre bore is now slightly too small.

I'd also guess that the wheels are the correct PCD, however if they are not and you've blown money on powder coating and tyres without checking first then it's your own fault.

Finally adaptors won't work to be honest, your offset will be around ET38, the thinnest adaptors are going to be ~18mm meaning that your final offset will be ET20. If you're not lowered that's going to look ridiculous, if you are then you'll most likely need arch work to accommodate the wheels depending on the widths.
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 22:53
Alright guys, dave has just brought his car around mine so we can have a look at it in the light and the PDC is actually to big, what size spigot rings would he need to make it fit as their is no indication of the size?
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Post by: topher on 15 March 2012, 22:58
spigot rings correct the centre bore diameter not the PCD. This thread is really confusing but i'm guessing dom is along the right lines.... maybe?
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Post by: dave-oz-90 on 15 March 2012, 23:06
yes thats what i mean mate, sorry if im confusing people just dont know how to explain it myself
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Post by: chrisford_vw on 16 March 2012, 17:07
Centerbore is the size of the hole in the middle that locates the wheel on the hub.
Pcd is the number if holes that you use to bolt the wheels to the car and the distance between them measured diagonally.
The pcd should be 5 stud by 100mm (5x100)
Centerbore should be 57.1
As mentioned above powdercoat can decrease the size of the centerbore due to it been quite thick.
A tool such as a dremel should be ok to increase the size of the hole.
Spigot rings are used to decrease the size of the centerbore as most after market wheels are of a larger diameter to allow fitment to a large selection of cars.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 17 March 2012, 20:09
Centerbore is the size of the hole in the middle that locates the wheel on the hub.
Pcd is the number if holes that you use to bolt the wheels to the car and the distance between them measured diagonally.
The pcd should be 5 stud by 100mm (5x100)
Centerbore should be 57.1
As mentioned above powdercoat can decrease the size of the centerbore due to it been quite thick.
A tool such as a dremel should be ok to increase the size of the hole.
Spigot rings are used to decrease the size of the centerbore as most after market wheels are of a larger diameter to allow fitment to a large selection of cars.
Hope this helps.


Thanks dude (and everyone else for their help!) after taking to my friends unit in the light we have established they're too big and the seller is sending me spigot rings. When they're on I'll try upload a photo.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: chrisford_vw on 18 March 2012, 17:40
Your welcome always happy to help now get some pics up :wink:
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Post by: dave-oz-90 on 22 March 2012, 20:54
Can't upload a pic of the finished article. Not good at this MS DOS stuff  :huh:
Title: Re: HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dave-oz-90 on 22 March 2012, 21:38
(http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o637/dave-oz-90/MK4Golf.jpg)