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Title: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 26 May 2005, 19:03
16v POWER

Right this is a discussion made entirely of facts as to which is better, I.E. power, handling, etc.

FACTS PEOPLE NOT OPINION!!

Let the discussion commence.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 26 May 2005, 19:15
:evil:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 26 May 2005, 19:17

it comes down to..

mk2 16v better handling, better performance  on the road

mk3 16v safer, bigger more powerful engine

^ which apparently i'm wrong about...




mk3 16vs and '6s also have basic traction control at low speeds and different suspension to the 8v..
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 26 May 2005, 19:19
Cant be arsed with this argument no more to be prefectly honest
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 26 May 2005, 19:20
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 May 2005, 19:22
 :grin: i love these arguments
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 26 May 2005, 19:24
I am jsut fed up with them, they go on all the time and are meaningless as all dubs are good, end of story for me
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 26 May 2005, 19:26
apart from the mk3 8v

/me runs.....
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 26 May 2005, 19:26
 :evil: :evil: :evil:

(http://www.peopleteams.org/southernthaiteam/Stirrer.jpg)

 :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Flying Custard on 26 May 2005, 19:27
lol
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 26 May 2005, 19:28
me, stirring. . . . :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 May 2005, 19:29
I am jsut fed up with them, they go on all the time and are meaningless as all dubs are good, end of story for me


thats bollox, just cos its vw doent mean it cant be wank
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Only_A_8V on 26 May 2005, 19:58
Just to fuel the fire MK2 8v kills any Mk3...... well not the VR6 :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 26 May 2005, 20:03
Just to fuel the fire MK2 8v kills any Mk3...... well not the VR6 :evil: :evil: :evil:


                          0-60     Top Speed      BHP
mk2 1.8 8v             9             115            112
mk3 2.0 16v           9             134            150

How you work that one out?
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 26 May 2005, 23:29
where did mk3 16v 9secs come from? lol

its 8.5...
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Dis00 on 27 May 2005, 00:42
why is there so much debate over mk2 and mk3 why not add the mk1,4 and 5 into discussion
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 27 May 2005, 01:11
" IS THIS A 5 MINUTE ARGUMENT OR THE FULL HALF HOUR " :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

  ( re ; MONTY PYTHON'S argument sketch )
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 27 May 2005, 10:19
I hope its just the 5 minute argument, as it is so boring now!
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 27 May 2005, 10:20
for a good chassis get an old golf, for comfort get a newer one, simple as :grin:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Only_A_8V on 27 May 2005, 12:56
dont want to start a fight but my 8v gets up2 128mph not 115mph :shocked:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 May 2005, 13:02
on the clock maybe. You have to account for inaccuracies being increased the farther up the reading you go.

Therefore matey, i am afraid you are only doing about 115mph.  :smiley:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Little_pink_hulk on 27 May 2005, 13:31
Come on lads get over it, we all know that the mk2 16v IS the best gti out of the lot of them end of,  In my eyes the mk3 is jst fat ugly, myself mk2 anyday of the week.

Then again i drive an RS Turbo but hey thats jst me  :kiss:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 27 May 2005, 13:33

Then again i drive an RS Turbo but hey thats jst me :kiss:

fords are sh1te
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Little_pink_hulk on 27 May 2005, 13:39
Quote
fords are sh1te

Wot even ford cosworth's or GT's, mustang's

Anyway enough of fords back 2 mk2/mk3 people TBH

 
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 May 2005, 13:41
 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: redcarboy on 27 May 2005, 13:50
apart from the mk3 8v

/me runs.....
MEH!! TBH.. :tongue: :grin:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: *Dubby* on 27 May 2005, 13:53
 :rolleyes:

f**ks sake people..........

Ive had a mk3 and a mk2 and liked both. I suppose I'm a c*nt for that?  :evil: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: tinman on 27 May 2005, 13:55
on the clock maybe. You have to account for inaccuracies being increased the farther up the reading you go.

Therefore matey, i am afraid you are only doing about 115mph.  :smiley:

i would say his speedo is optimistic but top speeds can be conservative. i know my daily driver is rated at 4mph lower than my top speed so far, and the car was still accelerating (i gave up cause i got defeaned).

Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 27 May 2005, 14:42
aye... GPS is the way to go for measuring speed aint it?

(no i aint got one..)

on my private airstrip my valver has been up to 140 on the clock.. would like to know what that is in reality


:rolleyes:

f**ks sake people..........

Ive had a mk3 and a mk2 and liked both. I suppose I'm a c*nt for that?  :evil: :laugh: :laugh:

no babe..  :kiss:  you just happen to have more of an idea of what you're talkin about rather than spouting uninformed drivel
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 May 2005, 15:10
no babe..  :kiss:  you just happen to have more of an idea of what you're talkin about rather than spouting uninformed drivel

LMFAO, funny that, i guess i have no idea, even though i have driven bott mk3s in GTI form then.

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: *Dubby* on 27 May 2005, 15:23
My mk3 was a 1.4  :laugh: with a bodykit  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 :embarassed:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 27 May 2005, 16:16
least u have a 'rado now..

sadly.. i know.. this is bad but... the reason i got my valver over a 'rado was that
this 50-ish year old woman who lives opposite has a '6 'rado...

maybe when i move away  :cool:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Golfgal on 27 May 2005, 16:18
I like my mk2's and mk1's i think they are much better than a mk3 anyday

if you dont like it take your horse and 0 - 60s figures write em down and stick um so far up your arse they tickle your tonsils. If you have a mk3 then good for you leave me to enjoy the dubs i like most
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Splinter on 27 May 2005, 16:22
PS my speedo was out by -4 mph (not over), most of the way through the range including upto 90 - 100 mph, measured with GPS.

When I fitted 17" alloys speedo was spot on!

We're all here for the same purpose, hobby, interests, etc. in VW Golfs, so what the petty arguments about. Go start up a mk2 only forum if you think they're that great & so much better than other models. I own a mk3, and I agree on the track, the lighter mk2 car would win a lap, because of braking and cornering, but there's no need to carry on about it, in the every day real world, I'd prefer a mk3 for a much more modern image, but very similar performance.
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Only_A_8V on 27 May 2005, 16:38
Just to say my clock only go's up2 120mph it was my m8 in his delta evo2 who told me what speed i was doing 128mph on the flat 3up with full tank and his clock is right...... But this will never end so i will say top speed ??????????? no1 will ever know

All golfs are good cara 1.3 to 1.8t end of  :smiley:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 27 May 2005, 16:40
PS my speedo was out by -4 mph (not over), most of the way through the range including upto 90 - 100 mph, measured with GPS.

When I fitted 17" alloys speedo was spot on!

We're all here for the same purpose, hobby, interests, etc. in VW Golfs, so what the petty arguments about. Go start up a mk2 only forum if you think they're that great & so much better than other models. I own a mk3, and I agree on the track, the lighter mk2 car would win a lap, because of braking and cornering, but there's no need to carry on about it, in the every day real world, I'd prefer a mk3 for a much more modern image, but very similar performance.

Well put mate
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 May 2005, 16:43
I love starting threads like this.  :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 27 May 2005, 16:50
I love starting threads like this.  :evil: :evil: :evil:


change to

I love being a sh!t stirrer. :evil: :evil: :evil:



Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: gibby on 27 May 2005, 17:11
If most people embraced the humour of these p1ss takes and didn't bite back then half of these threads wouldn't happen in the first place. It's the reaction that people want and invariably people do react, the perfect examples of not reacting are wotto and count, they give as good as they get and I can't remember either of them getting upset about it.  :smiley: wotto is always taking the p1ss out of my "green skip" and it makes me laugh that there can be good humoured banter between us. Some of you lot must have been bullied in the playground to react like you do.  :wink: That's my two penneth for what it worth.  :smiley:

Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: *Dubby* on 27 May 2005, 17:14
f**ks sake...its the internet :laugh: tbh
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Splinter on 27 May 2005, 17:20
I love starting threads like this.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

change to

I love being a sh!t stirrer. :evil: :evil: :evil:

change to

I love mk2 Golf's like I love my big fat hairy arse and am going to start my own mk2 forum at the weekend. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 27 May 2005, 17:25
does that remind some of the elders(gibby etc) of someone....
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: golfpro on 28 May 2005, 07:48
so much for this being a thread about facts not opinions. saying which is better is an opinion and we all have one. I grew up with the mk2 bein the car everyone had and the mk3 bein the new one that everyone wanted. Now i drive a mk3 and i love it, but it doesnt mean i hate the mk1,2,4,or 5. Each has its own character and deserves its place in the golf family tree.

I have to agree with gibby on this one. I like the banter coz it makes me giggle but dont take it too far!
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: CHR15 on 28 May 2005, 08:48
so much for this being a thread about facts not opinions. saying which is better is an opinion and we all have one. I grew up with the mk2 bein the car everyone had and the mk3 bein the new one that everyone wanted. Now i drive a mk3 and i love it, but it doesnt mean i hate the mk1,2,4,or 5. Each has its own character and deserves its place in the golf family tree.

I have to agree with gibby on this one. I like the banter coz it makes me giggle but dont take it too far!

amen to that phil!
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: bal-g60 on 28 May 2005, 12:42
we all know that the mk2 16v IS the best gti out of the lot of them end of, 

is this excluding the gti g60, or gti g limited?

 :wink:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Overseer on 28 May 2005, 17:01
are they actually badged gti g60?

like how the vr6 isn'badged gti vr6..
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: bal-g60 on 28 May 2005, 17:49
not sure about the limited, but the g60 def is, gti badge on rear and on side trims
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: kniterider on 28 May 2005, 19:32
this is a bit shate to be in the chat vw related , even though it is related somewhere, and it dosnt deserve to be in the 'nonsense' bit either, i think we need a 'my 'mk' of golf is soo much better than yours' section for all this shate. its been going on for so long on all the forums going.... its a bit f@ckin sad when peeps keep asking for slanging matches just for there private kicks, which in turn gets others backs up.......

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: CHR15 on 28 May 2005, 20:38
this is a bit shate to be in the chat vw related , even though it is related somewhere, and it dosnt deserve to be in the 'nonsense' bit either, i think we need a 'my 'mk' of golf is soo much better than yours' section for all this shate. its been going on for so long on all the forums going.... its a bit f@ckin sad when peeps keep asking for slanging matches just for there private kicks, which in turn gets others backs up.......

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nicely put!
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 28 May 2005, 23:24
Just to say that over the year I have owned:

A  mk1 1800 GTI A reg  ( Standard apart from K&N panel filter drilled airbox and a Sebring oval rear box).... engine like a turbine ,it was a VERY  smooth and responsive car to drive ...once I got used to the brakes!  GREAT CAR  :wink:sadly missed :cry:

A  mk2 1800 8v kjet C reg  ( K&N panel drilled airbox, lowered 30-40mm , G60 front ARB Sebring twin oval rear box and 7x15s ) obviously heavier than the mk1 but better brakes an more stable even before the the mods were done but not as quick as the mk1 . Also a GREAT CAR  :wink: Also sadly missed :cry:

Presently I have the Vento 2.0l ( K&N panel drilled air box,Magnex Uni rear box bla bla bla ) it's no where near as quick as the other two
But I like it because it's different and despite it being heavier :cool:

I worked from 1984 until 2001 at VW dealership and I have obviously lost count of all the GTI mk1s,2s.3s,4s that I have driven (also AUDI QUATTROs and 200 Turbos). But one thing I can say is that they are all good but in different ways although when I drove a mk3 GTI for the first time I thought the badges had got mixed up as the handling felt more like a GL not a GTI :huh: ( The VR6s felt the same )

(The the car that I had the most fun in was a 1973 MINI 1275 GT with Spax adjustable shocks 6x10s with yokos and LEYLAND SPECIAL TUNING Dpt goodies on it .. it was nice to get back in that after a day working on and driving Golfs and Quattros ). :smiley:



 
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 28 May 2005, 23:30
Oh and it was A PROPPER MINI NOT A BL33DIN BMWUBUDOO WITH A MINI BADGE!!! :angry:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: gibby on 29 May 2005, 00:05
This maybe a wild stab in the dark VENTO, but I'm guessing you like having a K&N in a drilled air box ! :wink:  :laugh::laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: GTI EDITION (aka LTD) on 29 May 2005, 00:10
NAH....... WHAT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE YOU THINK THAT?? :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh:

 " AFTER ALL 'ONE' NEEDS TO KNOW ALL THE JOLLY OLD FACTS DOESN'T 'ONE' EH JEEVES?"
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 31 May 2005, 17:12
I love starting threads like this.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

change to

I love being a sh!t stirrer. :evil: :evil: :evil:

change to

I love mk2 Golf's like I love my big fat hairy arse and am going to start my own mk2 forum at the weekend. :evil: :evil: :evil:



That would have been half funny, if i could of stopped laughing at your oh so "i'm well good cos i am behind a computer" illiteracy.

Hold on, I think i hear mummy calling..... off you trot.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Golfgal on 31 May 2005, 18:08
All golfs are sh!te roccos are the new black  :laugh:


I'm only joking before someone starts - fact I have to even state that is kinda sad eh
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: *Dubby* on 31 May 2005, 18:15
All golfs are sh!te roccos are the new black  :laugh:



and raddos are the new chocolate cake.

Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 31 May 2005, 18:16
lol, wind em up and watch them go....  :tongue:

Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Golfgal on 31 May 2005, 18:21
I've missed vr6  :grin: you'll never win slick  :wink:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 May 2005, 18:22
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 31 May 2005, 18:25
I've missed vr6  :grin: you'll never win slick  :wink:

like i care, never realised it was a competition, just a shame some people cannot read things like a joke. Still different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: kingsmk2 on 31 May 2005, 18:26
there is always a heated debate going here!! i had a debate early yeh a masturbate! anyway can i join in the b!tchin ??? mk3 is sh!t mk2 is better but i could change my mind if offered an entermans choco fudge cake
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 May 2005, 18:26
Oh dear touchy boy  :laugh:

Slick is showing his feminine side  :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 31 May 2005, 18:29
yah-da yah-da yah-da.

MK2 or MK3?

Tornado pink is the new R32 Blue TBH  :cool:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 May 2005, 18:31
Put your handbag away  :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Golfgal on 31 May 2005, 18:34
I want tornado pink
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 31 May 2005, 19:16
Corrin why have you let slip, you have been very good this last few months
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 May 2005, 19:24
Spell my name correctly please  :laugh:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 31 May 2005, 19:27
Why did I spell it wrong :confused:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 31 May 2005, 19:54
Yes you did Paul my sweetheart  :kiss:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mrwotto on 31 May 2005, 19:59
Sorry mate I thought i was spelling it right
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: Golfgal on 31 May 2005, 20:10
 :grin:
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: mix on 31 May 2005, 20:20
(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks.gif)
Title: Re: A new Chapter... MK2 vs MK3
Post by: gibby on 31 May 2005, 21:07
Bored of this now tbh. Just gonna get my key out !  :wink: