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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 14:55

Title: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 14:55
will a 2 ton trolley jack be enough keep up a mk4? and how much do mk4 1.8t actualy weigh..
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rio_gti on 11 March 2012, 15:01
For how long? No axel stands??
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:03
For how long? No axel stands??

20 mins or so .. just when things go wrong have quick look underneath if needs be :smiley:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rio_gti on 11 March 2012, 15:06
Well I always leave mine on the jack but sit an axel stand just behind it just incase the jack fails, or drive it up onto a pair of ramps- that's always the winner for me
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: JC on 11 March 2012, 15:08
its a jack, not a support device.  :lipsrsealed:

 and unless you are jacking in the centre of the car and lifting the whole lot a 2t jack will be fine
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:10
its a jack, not a support device.  :lipsrsealed:

 and unless you are jacking in the centre of the car and lifting the whole lot a 2t jack will be fine

yh ino i dont need for support.. just my standard jack is fooked.. and thought rather get trolley jack as going to be taking off alloys and bits of car soon thats why thought be a lot quicker use trolley jack.. will get axel stands if need for support  :smiley:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: Rhyso on 11 March 2012, 15:20
You can get kits from places like Screwfix, Halfords etc which come with a jack and axle stands in a nice plastic case  :smiley:  I paid about £30 for mine
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: JC on 11 March 2012, 15:26
or just get one of these

(http://www.marineliftsystems.com/images/front.jpg)

 :grin:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:27
You can get kits from places like Screwfix, Halfords etc which come with a jack and axle stands in a nice plastic case  :smiley:  I paid about £30 for mine

I found this but it is a bit steep http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_817643_langId_-1_categoryId_255207 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_817643_langId_-1_categoryId_255207)
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:28
found this will this be alright??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b)
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: Rhyso on 11 March 2012, 15:34
found this will this be alright??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b)

I'd get at least a 2T jack but that's just me

It's not a big price to pay for something to keep the car off your head  :wink:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:35
found this will this be alright??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trolley-Jack-Axle-Stands-Wheel-Chocks-1-5Ton-Hilka-7403590-GO-NEXTDAY-3-99-/120863545195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2407576b)

I'd get at least a 2T jack but that's just me

It's not a big price to pay for something to keep the car off your head  :wink:

hmm tru say.. i would prefer 2 ton too .. search continues  :grin:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:37
this

http://www.securefixdirect.com/2-ton-hydraulic-floor-lifting-trolley-jack-with-2-ton-ratchet-axle-jack-stands-3153-p.asp (http://www.securefixdirect.com/2-ton-hydraulic-floor-lifting-trolley-jack-with-2-ton-ratchet-axle-jack-stands-3153-p.asp)
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:42
the screwfix one with postage is 44.. found it on ebay posted for 34 so will get that with 3 ton stands.. thanks lads  :smiley:

heres link anyone interested too

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TROLLEY-JACK-2-TONNE-TON-PAIR-3-TONNE-AXLE-STANDS-/110656347260?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item19c3a1dc7c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TROLLEY-JACK-2-TONNE-TON-PAIR-3-TONNE-AXLE-STANDS-/110656347260?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item19c3a1dc7c)
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: AD1.8T on 11 March 2012, 15:52
Will be fine mate my jacks ancient and its fine anything is better than the widow maker lol
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 15:57
Will be fine mate my jacks ancient and its fine anything is better than the widow maker lol

lol i know you mean have heard the widow maker squeek and squeel now and then when just changing tyre.. sh!ts you right up  :grin:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: Rhyso on 11 March 2012, 16:37
Will be fine mate my jacks ancient and its fine anything is better than the widow maker lol

lol i know you mean have heard the widow maker squeek and squeel now and then when just changing tyre.. sh!ts you right up  :grin:

Adam's collapsed when he bought my Anni wheels off me a couple of years ago  :shocked:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: AD1.8T on 11 March 2012, 18:00
When i had my zr my mate used his out of his a3 to do my wheels and luckily we didnt get as far as taking the wheel off and it twisted and slammed the car on the floor !
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 18:08
flippin hell.. think they should give 2 ton trolley jacks as standard  .. then crap paper weight they give :grin:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rio_gti on 11 March 2012, 18:56
got mine from aldi £20 2 ton!!
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 11 March 2012, 19:16
I had an aldi £20 2 ton jack fail on me, the valve gave. But I had stands underneath so it was fine.
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: golf-sib on 11 March 2012, 19:37
2T will be enough, mk4 weighs in a region of 1350kg to 1450kg I believe.
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 19:44
2T will be enough, mk4 weighs in a region of 1350kg to 1450kg I believe.

wow there quite heavy then i thought mk4 region of 1100kg  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2012, 19:50
2T will be enough, mk4 weighs in a region of 1350kg to 1450kg I believe.

wow there quite heavy then i thought mk4 region of 1100kg  :lipsrsealed:

Parkers quote 1238 kg for a 5dr 1.8t
 
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rio_gti on 11 March 2012, 19:51
depends whos driving  :lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 19:51
depends whos driving  :lipsrsealed:



 :laugh: :laugh:

im ok there.. im not.. ermm .. a human lowering kit  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rio_gti on 11 March 2012, 19:52
depends whos driving  :lipsrsealed:



 :laugh: :laugh:

im ok there.. im not.. ermm .. a human lowering kit  :lipsrsealed:

 :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 11 March 2012, 21:23
I should also mention I was working on another golf when it failed and not my own golf, I don't think it failed as a result of the weight but the valve gave way for whatever reason.
I had my mk4 on the weighing bridge and it registers 1120kg  :cool:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 21:30
so seems like valves are the thing to go.. any way keep them maintained as i would like to keep the trolley jack for a good few years will come in very handy  :smiley:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 11 March 2012, 21:49
To be honest, while its something that has always been of a concern to me this was the first time it's happened. I just saw the price and thought it would be handy as a cheap jack as I always use axle stands anyway. I would therefore urge you to do the same as I'm not sure whether this was a single defective unit or a systemic failure on the whole batch.
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 March 2012, 22:30
I defo will use the axel stands then too.. Got the set off the bay with 3 ton stands so should be more then enough :smiley:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: big stevie on 12 March 2012, 16:33
highly recomended you use axel stands as said trolley jack is used just to raise it up, back when i was a teen i put an exaust system on with a side jack yes very stupid indeed i know things you do as a teen and have no fear for anything, well car fell sideways with me underneath and was trying to hold it but couldnt it started to go and shouted to my parents who came running out and held car by wheel arch untill i managed to crawl out, i would have been crushed if thay hadnt came out, 2 good things happened that day i wasnt killed and my mum and dad bought me a trolley jack, a set of car ramps, and axel stands i have a 2 ton jack i got from wilkinsons was on 75% think i paid a fiver for it and ive had it 5 years it lifts my ford galaxy ok but as said it lifts once in the air i use axel stands and also put wheels under car for good measure well on the galaxy i do wont put my lm reps under the car.  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: weight!
Post by: navmk4gti on 12 March 2012, 16:40
 :shocked: thats not something i want to think about when under there  :grin: that would sh1t me right up.. Its a long way to go to make ur parents buy u trolley jack and stands tho  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

na glad nothing serious happen to you mate just goes show think safety before stupidity :smiley: i will defo makesure all secure before i get under