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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Ess_Three on 08 March 2012, 21:06
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My mate rocked up in this today:
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z72/Ess_Three/Megane%20R26R/20120308_152609_2.jpg)
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z72/Ess_Three/Megane%20R26R/20120308_152600_1.jpg)
That's the full spec...carbon bonnet, carbon buckets, 6 point harnesses, roll cage, plastic rear windows, no stereo/speakers and £3500 worth of Titanium exhaust.
Mental.
It re-defines what a FWD hatch can do round corners. :grin:
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thats a proper car
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
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he looks super cool in his harness i bet when he pulls up at the chippy :kiss:
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
Do I detect a hint of badge snobbery?
I know one thing...it's better built than I expected...and a GTI wouldn't see which way it went on a road with corners.
It's insane... :grin:
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I looks the business to me, just a different motor to the golf... :grin:
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
Do I detect a hint of badge snobbery?
I know one thing...it's better built than I expected...and a GTI wouldn't see which way it went on a road with corners.
It's insane... :grin:
No not at all just thought I would see what the reaction was :smiley:
French hot hatches are legendary on the twisties its just the other 90% of the time you just wish you were in something else, like the legend which is the GTI.
I agree this would see off a GTI on the bends but this really only matters on a track. If you are going to drive that much faster than a GTI can go on the road then you are insane :laugh:
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I appreciate what it can do but id rather have a mk5 gti anyday of the week (same era)
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French hot hatches are legendary on the twisties its just the other 90% of the time you just wish you were in something else, like the legend which is the GTI.
It's far better screwed together than I expected, I'll give it that.
Too hardcore for me...but as a drivers car, it must be epic.
I agree this would see off a GTI on the bends but this really only matters on a track. If you are going to drive that much faster than a GTI can go on the road then you are insane :laugh:
Why did you buy a GTI not an S?
Surely the purpose of a hot hatch (if that's what a GTI is) is to entertain and allow you to go down a road faster than in an S?
So why does that only become relevant on the track?
That R26R finds grip where a GTI has long since given up, and the way the chassis works is amazing...it feels so light on it's springs (probably because it is).
Still too hardcore for me though. But I admire a company bonkers enough to build somethi ng like that.
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I appreciate what it can do but id rather have a mk5 gti anyday of the week (same era)
As a daily driver...me too.
It's just a shame that VW think a few badges and a modest power increase is enough to make something special...where is their sense of adventure?
They seem to have forgotten how to make niche cars since the Lupo GTI.
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It looks just a bit too..... meh I don't know how to say it.... but not something I would want sat outside my house :wink:
But I am sure it is good fun to drive, without a doubt. Not bad if you have a garage! :laugh: :grin:
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Now that would make the journey to work more exciting.. I bet it gets the adrenalin pumping :evil: :evil:
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Now that would make the journey to work more exciting.. I bet it gets the adrenalin pumping :evil: :evil:
I suspect it would be a very short journey...until plod caught you!
It's got some of the best seats I've ever sat in - right up there with the original GT3 seats...utterly supportive, perfectly positioned etc...but those harnesses are a nightmare!
Great noise, great chassis etc though...I don't like French cars...but I was really impressed with this.
RenaultSport really get those things right.
I think my dream garage needs another space now. :grin:
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I remember seeing one on top gear, Hammond really liked it.
Forget it is French as they are awesome :cool:
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
it would p!ss all over any golf out of the box and most cars double its price.
arguing about if an ed35 with an extra 25bhp is fast is a joke. and the whole build quality debate thing is a p!sstake.
seriously if you think VW are that great take your battery tray out or spare wheel and look in awe at the bare metal where they couldn't be arced to paint it properly.
never had non of that on my renaultsport's
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Really don't like the shape of the fat arsed Megane so wouldn't ever buy one. However, as I wrote the other day on here, the new shape one is a fantastic looking thing. Would have to seriously consider one next time round.
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i considered one but in the end needed a 5 door so went for the golf
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
it would p!ss all over any golf out of the box and most cars double its price.
arguing about if an ed35 with an extra 25bhp is fast is a joke. and the whole build quality debate thing is a p!sstake.
seriously if you think VW are that great take your battery tray out or spare wheel and look in awe at the bare metal where they couldn't be arced to paint it properly.
never had non of that on my renaultsport's
No it won't Golf R pissis over it 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, round a dry track renault wins :smiley:
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Bet it is super fast, but it is also extremely ugly :sick:
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
it would p!ss all over any golf out of the box and most cars double its price.
arguing about if an ed35 with an extra 25bhp is fast is a joke. and the whole build quality debate thing is a p!sstake.
seriously if you think VW are that great take your battery tray out or spare wheel and look in awe at the bare metal where they couldn't be arced to paint it properly.
never had non of that on my renaultsport's
No it won't Golf R pissis over it 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, round a dry track renault wins :smiley:
who does standing 1/4's on the public roads? in the real world it would beat an R hands down be it on a B road or on track. R weighs over 1500kg and the r26.r 1200kg
you have to respect renault for even building the thing in the first place. how many other mainstream manufacturers would take an already fast car then decide to fit a roll cage, LSD, plastic windows and carbon panels and seats just to make the car more fun? and its great because of how the chassis is designed not just cos of electronics - were not going to see many cars lie this get built in the future.
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thats a proper car
Lol, good joke :grin:
it would p!ss all over any golf out of the box and most cars double its price.
arguing about if an ed35 with an extra 25bhp is fast is a joke. and the whole build quality debate thing is a p!sstake.
seriously if you think VW are that great take your battery tray out or spare wheel and look in awe at the bare metal where they couldn't be arced to paint it properly.
never had non of that on my renaultsport's
No it won't Golf R pissis over it 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, round a dry track renault wins :smiley:
who does standing 1/4's on the public roads? in the real world it would beat an R hands down be it on a B road or on track. R weighs over 1500kg and the r26.r 1200kg
you have to respect renault for even building the thing in the first place. how many other mainstream manufacturers would take an already fast car then decide to fit a roll cage, LSD, plastic windows and carbon panels and seats just to make the car more fun? and its great because of how the chassis is designed not just cos of electronics - were not going to see many cars lie this get built in the future.
Who races round street corners taking racing lines at full pelt on the limit. I respect it and renault for doing it.
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I like it, thanks for posting Ess_Three.
I've liked this car since it came out. It's never been a car that I'd consider, but I agree that Renault deserve a good pat on the back for having the guts to offer something this dedicated.
Around a track, this thing is much quicker than a standard GTI (even a mapped GTI) because, quite simply, it's properly set up.
And all this arguing about 1/4 mile times and racing on public roads, a car like the R26.R is just great because it can corner faster, it's the confidence it inspires and the sensations it gives in the process. Yes it will be most rewarding when you see what it can really do, but even for 7/10's driving the R26.R will be great fun.
I paid my money for a car that could do everything, and in that respect I am glad I bought the GTI.
But for an out and out driving machine, the R26.R is one of the best - if not the best - in the hot hatch field.
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i agree, its something i would love to own but for me just isn't practical. so i hedged my bets, covered as many bases as possible and got the golf.
and as for racing on the roads etc thats not what I'm interested in. i go out in the middle of nowhere to be away from other cars and enjoy the driving experience which I'm sure this thing would do fantastically. if it came to it though, on british roads, with the average driver behind the wheel this thing WOULD dust and R, a GTI or whatever you want to throw at it this side of an M3.
if your a hot hatch fan or car enthusiast in general there is no denying this thing is proper.
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I don't care what it drives like, it's one ugly mofo.
Jim
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I don't care what it drives like, it's one ugly mofo.
Jim
I agree Jimmy it is a seriously ugly car :grin:
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i agree, its something i would love to own but for me just isn't practical. so i hedged my bets, covered as many bases as possible and got the golf.
and as for racing on the roads etc thats not what I'm interested in. i go out in the middle of nowhere to be away from other cars and enjoy the driving experience which I'm sure this thing would do fantastically. if it came to it though, on british roads, with the average driver behind the wheel this thing WOULD dust and R, a GTI or whatever you want to throw at it this side of an M3.
if your a hot hatch fan or car enthusiast in general there is no denying this thing is proper.
Hmmm you see with joe boggs driving it i don't think it would dust the R, no doubt it would be a better experience and feel.
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BTW mkviken im just being Devil's Advocate because all you seem to do is slag off your Gti and Vw but you paid your money so you have got that right lol :smiley: i don't really care which is faster.
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This is quite a good review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYjMF3N7ecQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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who does standing 1/4's on the public roads? in the real world it would beat an R hands down be it on a B road or on track. R weighs over 1500kg and the r26.r 1200kg
The R weights 300-400 Kgs more, loses an additional 25 BHP in driveline losses, has an additional 25 BHP...and understeers.
On a wet day, I'm sure the R would be quicker off the line...but everywhere else, I'd put my money on the R26R.
It finds grip where there shouldn't be any.
The chassis is amazing.
Different cars though...an unfair comparison really.
Don't get me whong, the Golf GTI chassis is good. But the R26Rs is in a different league.
you have to respect renault for even building the thing in the first place. how many other mainstream manufacturers would take an already fast car then decide to fit a roll cage, LSD, plastic windows and carbon panels and seats just to make the car more fun? and its great because of how the chassis is designed not just cos of electronics - were not going to see many cars lie this get built in the future.
It's a proper drivers car.
The way that front suspension set up finds grip and traction, under full power, is simply amazing.
As you say, big respect for biulding something so bonkers.
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I like it, thanks for posting Ess_Three.
My pleasure. :grin:
I've liked this car since it came out. It's never been a car that I'd consider, but I agree that Renault deserve a good pat on the back for having the guts to offer something this dedicated.
I'd not have ever considered one...but I had my eyes opened.
What a tool.
Too compromised for everyday use - it's not my mates daily driver, he has a Mondeo for that! - but as a plaything it's immense.
But for an out and out driving machine, the R26.R is one of the best - if not the best - in the hot hatch field.
I'd put it up there in the top 10 affordable drivers cars ever...not just in the hot hatch field.
It's that good.
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Theirs a interesting comparision between between the R26r and the megane 250 cup on Auto Express, the 250 cup is around 3 secs quicker on a track which they say is simalar to British roads. Not sure how to attach link.
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BTW mkviken im just being Devil's Advocate because all you seem to do is slag off your Gti and Vw but you paid your money so you have got that right lol :smiley: i don't really care which is faster.
i don't slag it off - or not without justification anyway. i can only speak from experience and say it how i find it.
i enjoy my car every time i drive it and love how it looks and the way it does everything and seems very versatile. it is jack of all trades which is what it was designed and sold as. I'm impressed every time i drive it how good it is.
your right though i have slagged off VW and the golf for the poor build quality/panel gaps/rattles/paint, dealership and the brakes and gearbox. why say these are good points when their not?
I'm just being honest. can't see the point in looking with rose tinted specs and saying everything about the gti is wonderful when the paint finish is a joke, the interior rattles and the brakes must be the germans idea of a sick joke.
overall its a car which ticked the most boxes, i need a 5 door and wanted something my wife would drive when I'm finished with it in 2 years. so i bought it with my head. if id bought with my heart it would have been a focus RS for the same money but the 3 door would be a nightmare, it wouldn't fit in the garage and the wife hated the colour so being sensible won.
back on topic though the R26.R would be in my top 10 garage (along with 2 other clios!)
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Well said.
I have been using the golf all this past week I agree with what you pointed out.
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BTW mkviken im just being Devil's Advocate because all you seem to do is slag off your Gti and Vw but you paid your money so you have got that right lol :smiley: i don't really care which is faster.
i don't slag it off - or not without justification anyway. i can only speak from experience and say it how i find it.
i enjoy my car every time i drive it and love how it looks and the way it does everything and seems very versatile. it is jack of all trades which is what it was designed and sold as. I'm impressed every time i drive it how good it is.
your right though i have slagged off VW and the golf for the poor build quality/panel gaps/rattles/paint, dealership and the brakes and gearbox. why say these are good points when their not?
I'm just being honest. can't see the point in looking with rose tinted specs and saying everything about the gti is wonderful when the paint finish is a joke, the interior rattles and the brakes must be the germans idea of a sick joke.
overall its a car which ticked the most boxes, i need a 5 door and wanted something my wife would drive when I'm finished with it in 2 years. so i bought it with my head. if id bought with my heart it would have been a focus RS for the same money but the 3 door would be a nightmare, it wouldn't fit in the garage and the wife hated the colour so being sensible won.
back on topic though the R26.R would be in my top 10 garage (along with 2 other clios!)
Ford Focus ST lover, explains it all. The GTI is an altogether different kind of car which you don't get.
One thing I don't get though. If so much is wrong with your car why have you not had VW fix it. If VW wont fix it why not get an independent report done.
Can you please explain that ?
The Focus ST is a great driving car but personally I would be extremely embarrassed being seen climbing out of one. The body kit is horrendous and I don't think I have ever seen a ford focus st past without a full blown over sized sub woolfer in full swing.
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Seems like you two have got lemons then, i agree that the brakes could do with beefing up but ive never had problems with any of mine that hasn't been sorted and a lot of dearlerships are poor any make (not all), maybe the odd rattle if i listen for it but no more than any other car. Vote with your feet next time then.
Anyway has you say back on topic, if i wanted a track day car i could go to work in id just get a Lotus Elise.
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I'm just being honest. can't see the point in looking with rose tinted specs and saying everything about the gti is wonderful when the paint finish is a joke, the interior rattles and the brakes must be the germans idea of a sick joke.
Got to agree.
My Mk3 has interior plastics that are lasting better than my 2 year old Mk6...and the Mk3 is 15 years old.
The paint on the Mk6 is pathetically thin (where it is painted) and chips too easily.
The brakes can be made to fade on the public road, on a standard car with standard tyres - pathetic.
It's a good all rounder...but far from perfect. And at £30k...it should be better.
back on topic though the R26.R would be in my top 10 garage (along with 2 other clios!)
I'd have one Clio in my dream garage - a Trophy.
..and an Integra Type-R (DC2)...yes, a cheap and tacky Japanese car. OMG!!
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Anyway has you say back on topic, if i wanted a track day car i could go to work in id just get a Lotus Elise.
What if you were taller than 5'6" and weigh more than 10 st? An Elise is no use...try getting in/out of one.
What if you wanted something that was wetertight? :lipsrsealed:
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Im not buying a Lotus Elise because it might leak rain, part and parcel of the Elise, if your a track type person im sure most will accept it as its a great track car.
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Can you please explain that ?
One thing I don't get though. If so much is wrong with your car why have you not had VW fix it.
Because most if not all the dealers in the north east are crap with a capital F. Mine went in for rattles to be fixed and i had to visit 4 more times for them to repair the damage they caused when they were unable to fix the rattles!! (Even though i told them how too :grin:) (Did i also say there fix for the damage they did was laffable and shoddy does not cover it) This cost me in time and wages so i gave up as it would just turn into a weekly visit!
Why are dealer techs so rubbish because its all done on a faster is better basis, dealer techs are monkeys (I know my family setup a large dealership chain many years ago so delt with them regular) and one of the larger dealership chains in the northeast employs the lads thrown out of schools to look good to the goverment, But they don't care or have a passion for cars or know anything or have many common sense brain cells they don't care about customers cars all they care about is been paid. There higher ups don't care either (Amazing what you hear when you have people on the inside)
VW customer care don't care learnt that one when i first bought the car.
If VW wont fix it why not get an independent report done.
Cost and time and VWuk ignore it, some people have lives and more important things to sort out and deal with than a shoddy built car from a manufactuer who does not give a damb.. (I wasted months dealing with VWuk.)
VW have a reputation and people fall for it. Take off the rose tinted glasses and start looking more closley at there cars from an engineering point of view rather than there touchy feely interior plastics and they have cut corners left right and centre. Its shocking, guess they have to do something to pay those high wages of union run employees in Germany. Most people prob don't care or look as we are a nation of people without any practical or engineering skills and so a pencil pusher would not know about anything but toucht feely plastics. :grin:
Have a look also at the Mk5 section on here and on the other site. Many are suffering rusting wings on a car less than 5 years old, thats high VW quality for you.
I don't like Renaults so to me this is a non starter. I spent 10 years fixing PSA cars at a specialists and many renaults too so no french cars for me thank you.
I have met mkviken and seen his GTI a couple of times. His GTI imho is superior to mine in paint, fit and finish and has far less rattles but then his is a year and a half younger than mine and a colour that hides a multiple of sins mine doesn't. He also seems to have suffered from another dealership group round heres high standards of work though.
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^^^^ ive seen your thread before on your car and it does seem poor. I think some peoples opinion of Vw is as tho its in the same class as a Rolls Royce or something so when they get one they are dissapointed and quick to knock them when really the only difference in quality is the interior and as said thats questionable as everyone as caught up. In truth Vw has never been that much better than the competition other than rust in the old days. But there's something about it for me that its the best alrounder as said upteen times by many.
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I also have a 2005 leon which we have had from new its build is superior imo, its paint is far superior, its engineering fit and finish superior. Its brakes also have more feel and more progressive. Granted it does not corner, handle or go as well but at least its painted and undersealed. Infact im having trouble deciding if i have to get rid of one which one of the two to sell! :shocked:
I have always been a die hard VW/Audi/SEAT/Skoda fan and the family has been since the start of the 80s (Audi & VW) but sadly VW won't be on any of my family members shopping list from now on. I am going to look at a new Audi A1 this or next weekend though (depending on time available) to replace our Ibiza.
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Hmmm you see with joe boggs driving it i don't think it would dust the R, no doubt it would be a better experience and feel.
Ive buried 1 into next week that drives round here............ Doesn't corner any better at all... And soon as the duel carriageway came after the round about i was gone,
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Nice touch by Renault, the front sticker is for the persons in front rear view mirror. Ironic :huh:
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BTW mkviken im just being Devil's Advocate because all you seem to do is slag off your Gti and Vw but you paid your money so you have got that right lol :smiley: i don't really care which is faster.
Ford Focus ST lover, explains it all. The GTI is an altogether different kind of car which you don't get.
One thing I don't get though. If so much is wrong with your car why have you not had VW fix it. If VW wont fix it why not get an independent report done.
Can you please explain that ?
The Focus ST is a great driving car but personally I would be extremely embarrassed being seen climbing out of one. The body kit is horrendous and I don't think I have ever seen a ford focus st past without a full blown over sized sub woolfer in full swing.
i didn't mention ST. the ST is the GTI class car - the RS is what i very nearly bought and is a totally different animal. and as for the sub woofer thing they add weight and slow you down so not my cup of tea. :wink:
as for the VW vs the world thing - i will say it again - our 4 year old, never garaged, dog and baby taxi of a focus zetec has less rattles and squeaks than my £27k, fair weather, always garaged 5 month old gti.
as for VW fixing the problems I've had - i wouldn't let them loose on my interior trying to fix rattles. ive solved most myself without damaging anything. the paint defects are common - i know of a member on here who had bumpers painted under warranty as they're went done properly. i don't want my car thu a main dealer body shop so thats a non starter for me.
the one time they did 'fix' a problem my car came back worse, which is an ongoing saga with me and the dealership.
mechanically the car has been perfect so far so can't fault it in that respect.
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Can you please explain that ?
One thing I don't get though. If so much is wrong with your car why have you not had VW fix it.
Because most if not all the dealers in the north east are crap with a capital F. Mine went in for rattles to be fixed and i had to visit 4 more times for them to repair the damage they caused when they were unable to fix the rattles!! (Even though i told them how too :grin:) (Did i also say there fix for the damage they did was laffable and shoddy does not cover it) This cost me in time and wages so i gave up as it would just turn into a weekly visit!
Why are dealer techs so rubbish because its all done on a faster is better basis, dealer techs are monkeys (I know my family setup a large dealership chain many years ago so delt with them regular) and one of the larger dealership chains in the northeast employs the lads thrown out of schools to look good to the goverment, But they don't care or have a passion for cars or know anything or have many common sense brain cells they don't care about customers cars all they care about is been paid. There higher ups don't care either (Amazing what you hear when you have people on the inside)
VW customer care don't care learnt that one when i first bought the car.
If VW wont fix it why not get an independent report done.
Cost and time and VWuk ignore it, some people have lives and more important things to sort out and deal with than a shoddy built car from a manufactuer who does not give a damb.. (I wasted months dealing with VWuk.)
VW have a reputation and people fall for it. Take off the rose tinted glasses and start looking more closley at there cars from an engineering point of view rather than there touchy feely interior plastics and they have cut corners left right and centre. Its shocking, guess they have to do something to pay those high wages of union run employees in Germany. Most people prob don't care or look as we are a nation of people without any practical or engineering skills and so a pencil pusher would not know about anything but toucht feely plastics. :grin:
Have a look also at the Mk5 section on here and on the other site. Many are suffering rusting wings on a car less than 5 years old, thats high VW quality for you.
I don't like Renaults so to me this is a non starter. I spent 10 years fixing PSA cars at a specialists and many renaults too so no french cars for me thank you.
I have met mkviken and seen his GTI a couple of times. His GTI imho is superior to mine in paint, fit and finish and has far less rattles but then his is a year and a half younger than mine and a colour that hides a multiple of sins mine doesn't. He also seems to have suffered from another dealership group round heres high standards of work though.
Fair enough snoopy I sympathise.
I feel the same with Audi. I had to fight tooth and nail to get a fix which was under £200 on a brand new A3 Sport 4 weeks old. Eventually got trading standards involved. Of course I could afford the £200 fix but why should I when it was a brand new car. There attitude absolutely stinks in after care service. Audi Uk were terrible also. Too many Audi's are company cars and that's part of there problem. Ever time I went into Audi it was which company Mr Colville.
Will never touch audi with a barge poll.
When the time came to sell the A3 I thought I would go along and see what Audi would give me in part exchange so I knew what kind of money to get for it.
After visiting the Audi garage I went to a VW garage who offered 1,500 more than the Audi garage.
The other thing that bugged me with Audi was you have to pay for everything. An Arm rest is considered extra at well over a £100.00.
Audi left a bad taste in my mouth.
Feel better now that's off my chest.
I'm going to test drive the new BMW 1 125i M Sport. I like the fact they now do fixed price servicing and store your winter wheels but best of all you don't need to pay for an arm rest
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I'm just being honest. can't see the point in looking with rose tinted specs and saying everything about the gti is wonderful when the paint finish is a joke, the interior rattles and the brakes must be the germans idea of a sick joke.
Got to agree.
My Mk3 has interior plastics that are lasting better than my 2 year old Mk6...and the Mk3 is 15 years old.
The paint on the Mk6 is pathetically thin (where it is painted) and chips too easily.
The brakes can be made to fade on the public road, on a standard car with standard tyres - pathetic.
It's a good all rounder...but far from perfect. And at £30k...it should be better.
back on topic though the R26.R would be in my top 10 garage (along with 2 other clios!)
I'd have one Clio in my dream garage - a Trophy.
..and an Integra Type-R (DC2)...yes, a cheap and tacky Japanese car. OMG!!
good lad!
DC2 and clio trophy (and a williams) in my garage too! :grin:
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MKviken id just get shut of it if it bothers you that much and that its that bad.
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MKviken id just get shut of it if it bothers you that much and that its that bad.
Let's see if you still have the rose tinted spectacles on 2 years from now. :lipsrsealed:
VW would have you believe you are buying some unobtanium plated piece of rocking horse excrement...in affect, you aren't.
It's only a Golf. A mass produced hatchback.
And not immune to problems or niggles.
Do I like mine? Yes.
Is it prefect/great? No. Far from it.
Sadly, there is nothing I'd rather own instead...but perfect it is not...and with the current price, it should be better.
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MKviken id just get shut of it if it bothers you that much and that its that bad.
Why do people on here get so defensive and try to prove how fabulous the golf is every time someone dares to say a differ car is good?
Like I said I like my car and appreciate its good points which There are many but I'm not foolish enough to think its something it isn't or a super car in disguise and built like the shuttle.
Do yourself a favour and have a look inside the front and rear wheel wells and tell me the paint isn't peeling. Have a look where the rear numberplate lights are and tell me the whole bumper has paint on it.
Have a look under the bonnet and tell me the inner rails are fully painted the have a look down the side of the car and tell me it isnt orange peel.
Have a look at the rear control arms and tell me they're not rusting.
And how many mk5s are rotten already and the mk6 is made even cheaper.
These things are NOT any better built than the next car.
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Have a look at the load tie down points in the boot. Painted? I bet not...sort of oversprayed at best.
Mother's Skoda Fabia is painted in places my GTI isn't.
To be fair, my Tornado Red isn't orange peely...but mothers Fabia has a better paint finish.
As did my Fabia vRS.
And both resist stone chips better than my GTI.
Oh, and how come the chrome finish on my standard VW wheel centre caps have got white worm corrosion?
They did 15 dry miles before the wheels were taken off, and stored in wheel bags, on my wheel rack.
They corrrode in a dry garage? WTF???
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^^^^ ive seen your thread before on your car and it does seem poor. I think some peoples opinion of Vw is as tho its in the same class as a Rolls Royce or something so when they get one they are dissapointed and quick to knock them when really the only difference in quality is the interior and as said thats questionable as everyone as caught up. In truth Vw has never been that much better than the competition other than rust in the old days. But there's something about it for me that its the best alrounder as said upteen times by many.
I think you two should read my posts, i don't claim Vw to be the best at all far from it.
Don't give a to$$ what so ever any other make of hot hatch does or how its built as i don't keep my cars long or care what anyone else thinks of golfs, I LIKE ALL OF MY GOLFS I HAVE OWNED thats why i bought them, im sure you will vote with your feet next time.
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MKviken id just get shut of it if it bothers you that much and that its that bad.
Why do people on here get so defensive and try to prove how fabulous the golf is every time someone dares to say a differ car is good?
Like I said I like my car and appreciate its good points which There are many but I'm not foolish enough to think its something it isn't or a super car in disguise and built like the shuttle.
Do yourself a favour and have a look inside the front and rear wheel wells and tell me the paint isn't peeling. Have a look where the rear numberplate lights are and tell me the whole bumper has paint on it.
Have a look under the bonnet and tell me the inner rails are fully painted the have a look down the side of the car and tell me it isnt orange peel.
Have a look at the rear control arms and tell me they're not rusting.
And how many mk5s are rotten already and the mk6 is made even cheaper.
These things are NOT any better built than the next car.
Great post, I have everyone of your issues.
Jim
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Have a look at http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=150136.0
Sorry my photos are no longer there but other peoples are to show what we were on about.
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Hats off to the f1 renault team for developing the car... but in all honesty I would never get one of these. Had a megane as company car for 8months, and whilst I have no gripes about the actual car itself, the electrics and service levels from renault were so poor I swore that moment I would never buy one for fear of feeling the same levels of rage.
Great for a track and reviews by motoring journos, but everytime they had to grab some keys to go home they would opt for the golf.
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yes i totally agree - I've said more or less the same on another thread on here
the main problem with renault is the dealer network really are hopeless
the dealer my clio 197 came from burned to the ground last week and all the stock was written off! :huh:
i must say though of all the renaultsports I've owned the only failure I've had was a starter motor jammed on and destroyed itself - guess it could happen to any car.
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Have a look at http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=150136.0
Sorry my photos are no longer there but other peoples are to show what we were on about.
Is the paint peel on the inside of the wheel arch covered under warranty?
Cheers,
Jim
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yeah it is
i had mine in to complain and they agreed to paint the bumper straight away but I'm not keen on having bodywork done as i want the car original so they agreed to give me a bumper of a like for like car when one comes into stock
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Ive had i look at mine out of curiosity today, the engine bay i knew about so i looked at the spray gap when the doors open, i missed it at first but then i could see it from a certain angle. Im no car builder but i think the body is sprayed first then the panels and doors are fixed on and painted with the doors open then shut, so its seems that this is how the missed spray occurs. Ive got a seven year old mk5 also black and that is the same, i also looked at my 15 year old peugeot van which is red and at first it didn't look like it had it so then i wiped away the grime and it was there, not as noticeable but i think thats down to the colour and different door etc. So it wouldn't surprise me if alot of cars have this if you look for it.
mkivken my rear bumper were the number plate lights are seem fine, but im going to clean the car tommorow and have a good look.
The inner wheel wells, im not sure where you mean. Do you mean behind the plastic covers inside the wheel arches ?
The rust on mk5's id like to know where and ill check that aswell.
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yeah it is
i had mine in to complain and they agreed to paint the bumper straight away but I'm not keen on having bodywork done as i want the car original so they agreed to give me a bumper of a like for like car when one comes into stock
Thats disgusting!! Why should your fault be forced on someone else?? :angry: i don't see why they would need to paint the whole bumper if it's just inside the wheel arch?? Whip it off and give the inside a blow over. :huh: you can only see a couple of inches so not a huge issue, i'm with you on keeping it original though, they shoild fix your problem without involving someone elses car.
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http://www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,117.0.html
About the 4th picture down were the MK6 has that sponge (as shown in that pic) is were the mk5's rust. The arch liner rubs on the edge the lip of the arch and it rusts. Lots of threads about it on the mk5 section.
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yeah i suppose its harsh on whoever gets the painted bumper but TBH I've had my share of sh!t from them and just want what i should have got in the first place. i suppose its the sort of thing most owners wouldn't even notice anyway.
they said their mobile car painter who does small fixes on the forecourt could do it without removing the bumpers from the car. it would just mean removing the liners.
i was actually thinking about repairing it myself with black stone chip paint but I'm not sure if it would stick?
the problem is that the inside edges of the bumpers are just flashed over and not properly painted so it is rough to the touch and just crumbles off eventually. it happens to all golfs but white seems the most problematic as it stands out more.
why didn't the just make the wheel arch liner cover the whole of the inner bumper and it wouldn't be an issue??
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^^ One of the paint issues talked about above http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=219300.0
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geoff i need to speak to you about the underbody axle and tank shields when you get time. I'm in no rush but want to fit these eventually.
can your contact still get these?
also do you have any ford parts contacts?
cheers
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Sadly he cannot at the prices i use to as the dealer in Morpeth is now closed :cry: I missed out on quite a few bits from them myself (I did ask for your bits to be ordered at the same time) as the people there due to loosing there jobs decided to not play ball anymore. Hes working on a contact at TPS though so i wait and see what happens as im wanting a few bits in a while too. I'll ask about Ford.
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no bother
the dealership i bought from owe me a good turn so will try them for a good price on these parts.
did you fit your rear wishbone shields yet? any noticeable difference?
cheers
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Sadly not had time as have had (and still do) family paperwork, affairs and the funeral to sort out as well as other things. I have not been in a right frame of mind to do anything car related not to mine anyway. Just done emergency things i had too like fit a top mount, front springs and do the brakes on the ibiza.
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you need treat yourself to a remap and some 18's mate
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True but rear view camera and bluetooth first.
Just fitted my GolfGTI.co.uk tax disc holder so i sort of lied when i said i had done nothing :grin:
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sundaydriver is selling a reverse camera if you haven't got one yet
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sundaydriver is selling a reverse camera if you haven't got one yet
No it's sold now, TBH it's a pain in the arse to retro-fit! :sick: