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General => General discussion => Topic started by: thatwillis on 07 March 2012, 01:10
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Its something that I'm sure very soon will be unavoidable. It will be all over the news. Posters plastered over towns.
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Spend 30mins watching this! Powerful stuff. http://vimeo.com/37119711 (http://vimeo.com/37119711)
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Powerful video and campaign.
Bought myself a bracelet in support
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Wow, very amazing video. Will get myself a bracelet to support them.
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Loughborough uni already has a group set up and raring to go on the 20th, 1000+ members in one night!? :laugh:
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I've done a bit of reading around this, as I often struggle to trust these sort of things.
I'm surprised this is only receiving wide recognition now - I thought it was common knowledge that people knew about this sort of thing was happening, all over Africa.
Apparently this objective is about 7 years too late. Apparently he's had most of his power and resources stripped and is hiding in some unknown African destination.
According to a few other sources, Uganda has been free of the LRA for over 5 years, and Invisible Children even admit it when asked, just not in the video that thousands of people are watching, and millions (I suppose) will watch.
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qln68/am_i_the_only_one_who_is_suspicious_about/
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bring on april 20th
Anyone in wiltshire wanna go round slapping posters up on the 20th?
Yup!
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I've done a bit of reading around this, as I often struggle to trust these sort of things.
I'm surprised this is only receiving wide recognition now - I thought it was common knowledge that people knew about this sort of thing was happening, all over Africa.
Apparently this objective is about 7 years too late. Apparently he's had most of his power and resources stripped and is hiding in some unknown African destination.
According to a few other sources, Uganda has been free of the LRA for over 5 years, and Invisible Children even admit it when asked, just not in the video that thousands of people are watching, and millions (I suppose) will watch.
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskRed
i agree with you, but its not like were going to go to war over this imo, as you said its not as powerfull as before..
And what about SYRIA lol? everyone forgot whats going on there lol?
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Well if the efforts focused or Syria you would be saying what about Uganda or North Korea or such and such? At least they have started somwhere.
There has been alot of blogging about the wage the 3 guys in charge get, $90,000 dollars each per year according to there charity returns on the american charity website thingy (like out reg charity no. thing) and people are putting them down about this. I think is completely wrong. You cant survive on nothing which it sounds like these guys have done for a long time and now they have families etc to bring up and are effectivly ceo's and directors is there own 'company'. What are peoples opinions on this?
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i just happened to watch the film machine gun preacher today that is based on uganda and an american called sam childers who went over there and built an orphanage for children like in the kony vid based on a trye story aswell ,eye opening film for sure,brett
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Well if the efforts focused or Syria you would be saying what about Uganda or North Korea or such and such? At least they have started somwhere.
There has been alot of blogging about the wage the 3 guys in charge get, $90,000 dollars each per year according to there charity returns on the american charity website thingy (like out reg charity no. thing) and people are putting them down about this. I think is completely wrong. You cant survive on nothing which it sounds like these guys have done for a long time and now they have families etc to bring up and are effectivly ceo's and directors is there own 'company'. What are peoples opinions on this?
So they should. They work hard. Help people.
This is what i'm saying. Another big factor will be shaking off the 'hippy' connotations of Aid workers to appeal to US politicians. Who would you listen to? Shaggy esq charater in a beaten up pannel van or a well presented guy in a nice car with the latest phone or whatever.. I think it is right for them to take a tiny tiny cut of the $7.5 million they apparently have banked and are waiting to put to use.
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I just think it's ridiculous to fund a militia of an unstable country, arming them to find and detain a clearly mental man that uses children as body guards.
It's obvious that if caught, Kony won't want to go quietly so will put up a fight, which means using children to fight for him against the militia of their own country.
Another link.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/should-i-donate-money-to-kony-2012-or-not?utm_source=tumblrpage
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I just think it's ridiculous to fund a militia of an unstable country, arming them to find and detain a clearly mental man that uses children as body guards.
It's obvious that if caught, Kony won't want to go quietly so will put up a fight, which means using children to fight for him against the militia of their own country.
Another link.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/should-i-donate-money-to-kony-2012-or-not?utm_source=tumblrpage
The vice as a news source...... really?
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I just think it's ridiculous to fund a militia of an unstable country, arming them to find and detain a clearly mental man that uses children as body guards.
It's obvious that if caught, Kony won't want to go quietly so will put up a fight, which means using children to fight for him against the militia of their own country.
Another link.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/should-i-donate-money-to-kony-2012-or-not?utm_source=tumblrpage
The vice as a news source...... really?
I wouldn't class it as a news source, no.
But it does raise some good points and cites from some pages that I've been reading.
Plus I like Vice.
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theirs always going to be for and against.
but have it not been for this video.
Would we be talking about him?
*There's
And no.
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Can some one sum it up in a paragraph please, I don't want to potentially waste 30mins of my life...
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Can some one sum it up in a paragraph please, I don't want to potentially waste 30mins of my life...
joseph kony. warlord. makes his "men" kidnap children, rape the females, get the males to kill their family, then join his army, gets his "men" to mutalate peoples faces. All this just to keep what land/power he gained over the years. No other reason, wasn't fighting the government or anyone.
The point of the video is to make him known, make his crimes known. Already they have succeeded in getting 100 us "advisors" sent to uganda to help the ugandan army to find kony. This is the first time ever the us has sent military to another country because civillians have demanded it.
They want to raise money for equipment to help find kony.
that's about it?
Oh, so another f**king idiot wana be African dictator on a power trip. I bet there are 100's people like this guy.
I'v got my flame suit on...But I'd rather spend my money else where.
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Im obviously against all that stuff thats happened and the way Kony has behaved etc etc.
But its going to get alot worse if we go there or do anything, be like Iraq 3.0 :lipsrsealed: Or i can even see us arming Militia and making it worse.
I mean with all the US/Brittish soldiers that have died in the middle east... And its taken us 10 years to find binladden?!!? And that was Afgan, think about Africa?
i'm only making a point about timescale :smiley:
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Maybe I'm going soft but I will donate and buy the pack.
Probably find couple of quid in the sofa that I will send. Sure won't miss it!
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he's number 1 on the world wanted people thingy
Cheers for the brief overview BTW. I'm sure he is #1 most wanted...but look how long it took us to find Bin Laden. Don't get me wrong it is awful and shouldn't be allowed but we cannot police the world, and I bet other awful things happen in say maybe China/India and everyother country in the world. Surely he is just another gangstaaaaaaa that has gotten out of control?
As I said there are far more pressing priorities that we should be spending money on. Afghanistan to name only 1 current issue.
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must not comment, :lipsrsealed:
must not make a political statement :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
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must not comment, :lipsrsealed:
must not make a political statement :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
It's ok, you are out the Forces now, you can say what you want :wink:
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So yeah i'm seeing all this stuff come up about how its all compleatly rubbish! No idea what to belive any more :undecided:
Edit: Swear filter..
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So yeah i'm seeing all this stuff come up about how its all compleate nuts! No idea what to belive any more :undecided:
What are you selling? Car parts?
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In stitches right now.... sooooo wrong!
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HAHAHA.....But no, We really should help...
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Kony West
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Yeah I'm a wrongun. I've vented my spleen clean out of my eyes about the dumb sh!t posted all over fb today so I can't be bothered to start on here... So I'll post these instead
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sickipedia rocks :evil: :laugh:
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"I want to be the very best
That no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause" - Joseph Kony
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I saw a program about this arsehole about 5 years ago, part of a Newsnight special, it was truly horrific, based on a 10 year old that was beaten on an hourly basis, until he was forced to murder his own father, then to hack the limbs off his mother with a machete, she survived, and was reunited with her son after he managed to escape.
Whatever your sentiments are, whether you support this cause, or choose to ridicule it, then thats up to the individual, my views however, should be that if anyone that is guilty of these crimes, should be hunted down regardless of the passing of time, location, or any other kind of excuse....
I cant fault the people that are choosing to do something, rather than nothing
Thom
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Exactly that was 5 years ago atleast, I've only really been aware of this guy and his crimes for the last 4 years or so, and it's baffled me why the organisations to build awareness didn't get the same exposure as other (IMO) lower priority shall we say things.
The thing that pisses me off is that now everyOnes an activist an we must act now, but people are thick and Ill informed and won't do jack sh!t after today. You knows the types I'm on about, the ones that believe people will donate a dollar for every like of a picture of a kid with cancer.
f**king deactivists more like
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Well spank my plums it just gets better, I've just been called a 'f**king retard' on fb
Why you ask? I asked if the poster or a status knew of the crimes of the LRA
Response 'you f**kin retard, f**kin idiot hez Afrikan not Irish u thick Cnut'
Let me rest my case right there
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Well spank my plums it just gets better, I've just been called a 'f**king retard' on fb
Why you ask? I asked if the poster or a status knew of the crimes of the LRA
Response 'you f**kin retard, f**kin idiot hez Afrikan not Irish u thick Cnut'
Let me rest my case right there
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http://www.facebook.com/events/366873193343257/
This is making me angry now.
So many middle class white teenagers are using this as an excuse to look cool and caring by going out in balaclavas and vandalising stuff.
It's a good (unrealistic) cause that is losing all of its credibility by making huge profits on the protest packs and inviting moron social networking children to cause criminal damage so they can continue being self righteous and activist in an attempt to fondle their first pair of post-pubescent boobies.
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Joseph Kony - putting the infant into infantry.
Its all horse sh!t, the 'charity' has been critised heavily for being deceptive and not telling the whole story or timescale. And only 30% of what was donated actually went to africa out of 8mill last year. And that wont even of gone to helping much either...
We are forgetting that Uganda is also a dictatorship, and the president has done his fair share of nasty sh!t...