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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: devilscaff on 06 March 2012, 19:50

Title: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 06 March 2012, 19:50

what can be done to eliminate 2nd gear crunching when cold? on 16v.
(sorry if asked before)

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: theclash on 06 March 2012, 19:57

I had the same problem on a mk1 2nd gear crunch all the time :sad:
I put fresh gearbox oil and a tube of forte gearbox/diff treatment in and it was 100% better

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 06 March 2012, 20:01

Ok thanks think i'l start there then thanks

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: oakgreengolf on 06 March 2012, 20:10

use search function plenty of info there  :smiley:

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: bodga on 06 March 2012, 20:41

Syncro on second gear is tired, as above change the gearbox oil for good quality stuff and if that doesnt cure it use double clutch stop the crunch :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI3cHXnGEx4

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 06 March 2012, 21:35

sorry such a slow response got sidetracked on youtube! how much oil do I put in the gearbox?

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: daveybwoy on 07 March 2012, 20:12

If its a 1990 gear box with the car level you fill until it just runs out of the filler.  On the early boxes the filler hole was lower and you need to remove the speedo cable and add some extra through there.  About 0.5 litres.   Be careful removing the cable.

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 11 March 2012, 08:06

Thanks for the advice doing it this week

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: clipperjay on 11 March 2012, 11:02

Woth checking the selector rods!
You might get lucky just changing some of the worn out plastic joints in the selectors unit
They are cheap plus a weighted rod might help make selection smoother if you dont have one in there already?
 

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: VW BUSH on 11 March 2012, 14:00

Quote from: clipperjay on 11 March 2012, 11:02

Woth checking the selector rods!
You might get lucky just changing some of the worn out plastic joints in the selectors unit
They are cheap plus a weighted rod might help make selection smoother if you dont have one in there already?
 

+1
Worn linkage can make gear changes terrible.
I made new bushes out of Bronze and bought a kit from TSR (i think) which replaced the plastic UJ's with metal ones.
It is one of the best upgrades you can do to a Mk2 :smiley:
If that or the oil change does not help or cure your problem then its a box rebuild :wink:

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 12 March 2012, 18:47

is the linkage easy to replace without removing to many parts?

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 12 March 2012, 18:51

Quote from: devilscaff on 12 March 2012, 18:47

is the linkage easy to replace without removing to many parts?

Easy peasy..

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=33100.0

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: daveybwoy on 12 March 2012, 18:55

Also a helpful link.  I got some of the Teflon bushes for my linkage.

http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml (http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml)

Its fairly easy just a little frustrating at times.

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 12 March 2012, 19:07

Thanks for some very good advice,alot to think about this week gonna try oil replacement first with a treatment(just a soon as me 17 drain bolt remover arrives) then if no better on to the linkage. the joys of owning a 22year old car. What fun getting greasy again (lol)

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 14 March 2012, 19:35

Just noticed some gearboxes have a weight mine doesn't what does this do and do I need one?

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: rob.043 on 14 March 2012, 19:54

its to improve the 'feel'. Ive just fitted one, the difference is marginal, but selection is easier and a tad more positive. Could just be the placebo effect though  :laugh:

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 14 March 2012, 20:17

does anyone know why the wern't fitted standard

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 14 March 2012, 20:36

Quote from: devilscaff on 14 March 2012, 20:17

does anyone know why the wern't fitted standard

It was only invented for the cable shift MK3 gearbox.

 :grin:

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: devilscaff on 14 March 2012, 20:41

thanks for that.MK3 that explains why there is so many on ebay

Title: Re: 2nd gear crunch
Post by: mk2bal on 14 March 2012, 23:04

Its invented for rod change, not cable change. It was something vw did on the mk3 020 boxes. it noticeable for the 1st 5 seconds then you're used to it after that really.