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Title: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 19:39
My flywheel is on its last legs me thinks.. Getting a
Constant vibration on idle and when hit 2k revs get stront jolt vibration.. I knew it is on way out thougjt could make last 2-3 more months :sad:

Where is the best place get a saches kit.. I found vr6 sachs clutch on vwspares (avscarparts) for £108.. But cant find g60 flywheel on there.. Or is it better To buy as a kit?? If so anyone have any links to one cant Find fook all and ones maintenance section links all Old
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 04 March 2012, 19:40
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MKIV-1-8-TURBO-G60-FLYWHEEL-SACHS-VR6-CLUTCH-/250873258916?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a693623a4
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 19:45
Ebay  :lipsrsealed: anyway to tell its genuine sachs are they Stamped??
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 04 March 2012, 19:46
Ebay  :lipsrsealed: anyway to tell its genuine sachs are they Stamped??

lol i know what you mean  :lipsrsealed:

PM bobbarley he has just bought one  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 19:48
 :grin: should be called fraudbay  :grin:
Ill  pm him now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 04 March 2012, 19:52
:grin: should be called fraudbay  :grin:
Ill  pm him now  :smiley:

Your right to be cautious though, lots of things on there appear to be real - I bought a flasher unit for my mini only £5 it said genuine Lucas and arrived in a Lucas box however it was clearly a fake product with no stamp and it fell apart!  :angry: :laugh:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 19:55
Thats a kik up the backside when that happens.. Had my fair share  :angry:

Last thing i want is get clutch and flywheel done then go down the road and ..bang.. Because
Some chinese copy :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 04 March 2012, 19:57
Thats a kik up the backside when that happens.. Had my fair share  :angry:

Last thing i want is get clutch and flywheel done then go down the road and ..bang.. Because
Some chinese copy :lipsrsealed:

Indeed I hold no responsibility for recommendation treat it as fake  :grin:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 20:01
Thats a kik up the backside when that happens.. Had my fair share  :angry:

Last thing i want is get clutch and flywheel done then go down the road and ..bang.. Because
Some chinese copy :lipsrsealed:

Indeed I hold no responsibility for recommendation treat it as fake  :grin:
:grin:
got pm back bob said looks genuine and the seller has no bad feedback on them or that they are fake..
Sounds good i have sent message the seller asking they genuine  :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: bobbarley on 04 March 2012, 20:44
One or two others on here have bought the kit, no issues reported thus far  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 20:49
Lets hope stays that way  :grin:

Gonna order mine in 2 weeks  :smiley:

Will paste in what seller messages me back too
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 March 2012, 22:47
I would never advise this normally as mk3 related lol  :grin:

Breaking for spares section, and message people breaking ABF engine coded mk3's, same wheel and should be able to get one for £40ish posted..
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: JimBR on 04 March 2012, 22:54
£188 + postage seems a bargain!  :huh:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 04 March 2012, 23:10
I would not buy a used flywheel or clutch ...I think its a bargain for sachs kit as jim Said..  Comes to major mechanicaly stuff best buy new :wink:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 07:24
A flywheel you can buy in complete confidence 2nd hand, always buy a clutch new though   :wink:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: dam088888 on 05 March 2012, 08:11
Just had this done fly wheel and clutch go OEM mate nit g60 you wont gain any benifits from a singal mass only that if clutch goes you won't need to replace fly wheel again. It will mate your clutch noise on ideal and the pedal will feel sh!t just my opinion  I had fly wheel and clutch done for 315 fitted with luk parts
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 10:45
This is what seller replied  :smiley:
...

Good morning, yes, they are 100% genuine and we put a 4 year/ 40,000 mile warranty on them.

Thanks for double checking first.

Regards.

Frank.

- techniclutch
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 10:53
Just had this done fly wheel and clutch go OEM mate nit g60 you wont gain any benifits from a singal mass only that if clutch goes you won't need to replace fly wheel again. It will mate your clutch noise on ideal and the pedal will feel sh!t just my opinion  I had fly wheel and clutch done for 315 fitted with luk parts

Iv heard it only makes pedal light not heard nothing about noise etc  :undecided:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: JimBR on 05 March 2012, 11:44
I've heard they make a noise in a TDI but not in a petrol. When mine goes it'll be the techniclutch kit I'll be going for. The Sachs VR6 clutch should be good for 300ft/lb which is more than I will probably need.
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 05 March 2012, 11:52
A flywheel you can buy in complete confidence 2nd hand, always buy a clutch new though   :wink:
Not a DM though  :tongue:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 05 March 2012, 11:55
Just had this done fly wheel and clutch go OEM mate nit g60 you wont gain any benifits from a singal mass only that if clutch goes you won't need to replace fly wheel again. It will mate your clutch noise on ideal and the pedal will feel sh!t just my opinion  I had fly wheel and clutch done for 315 fitted with luk parts

Iv heard it only makes pedal light not heard nothing about noise etc  :undecided:

Had mine it for years no noise whatsoever, light pedal I, love it  :smiley: TDI it will vibrate at idle.

Some people find it can snatch a bit as the DM flywheel stops this.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 14:01
A flywheel you can buy in complete confidence 2nd hand, always buy a clutch new though   :wink:
Not a DM though  :tongue:

Very true.  :afro:

Had mine lightened aswell before put it on and I also get no rattle..
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 14:21
Im getiNg a screech noise when i reverse or rol back slightly is that the flywheel?

Hope it last me atleast two weeks because cars going in bodyshop nxt monday
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 14:36
Some people dont like clutch light so each to there own.. Mines remaped so makes sence
To go for upgraded bits.. Going to order the kit now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 14:49
The seller has just added 50 quid to the price! :angry:

Edit; top bloke said he will do it for me on price i originally seen :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 16:58
R-tech saw nearly 300hp on standard dual mass btw.. so not necessarily an upgrade, more of a cheaper replacement that feels different!
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 17:06
So the only difference between vr6 clutch and g60 flywheel compared to orginal one fitted to 1.8t.. Is way it feels??
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 17:14
So the only difference between vr6 clutch and g60 flywheel compared to orginal one fitted to 1.8t.. Is way it feels??

I believe so yes, and if a single mass clutch goes, you don't have to replace flywheel again..

However you shouldn't be replacing it very often anyway lol
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 17:19
I thOught the g60 flywheel and vr6 clutch can take more power and torque is that not why people get it  :undecided:

Yh hopefuly change just the once :grin:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 17:21
I believe that's a common misconception, its why i did it though TBH and then Nick said he was running near 300hp on standard dual mass, and if that went, he would be going for an uprated clutch and another dual mass flywheel!

Take of that what you want lol
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: JimBR on 05 March 2012, 17:26
A new dual mass is horribly expensive though right?  :lipsrsealed: It's alright of you can afford one but if a g60 single mass will do the same job for 1/5 of the price I know what I'd choose.
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 17:30
yh i think i prefer single too.. Lighter and atleast i know less chance of it going if any  :smiley:

Iv ordered sachs kit now too.. For £198.. Just need book it in to get it fitted.. Will
Be nice see what the fuss is about now :grin:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 17:33
You will like it, i had mine lightened aswell before it went on..
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 17:35
Im gonna just tel em throw in how it is.. Im only planong keep it till summer then
Its getting sold or striped if fail to sell it again
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 17:49
Pretty sure it was 3kg that came off my ABF one..
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: bobbarley on 05 March 2012, 17:53
The kit is absolutely ridiculously heavy!
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 17:56
The complete dual mass setup and complete vr6 clutch & ABF/G60 combo don't weigh hardly any different when you weigh them   :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 05 March 2012, 18:04
Aslong aS it doesnt fook up thats all that maters.. Weight dont bother me car is never going to
See a track  :grin:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 18:04
The complete dual mass setup and complete vr6 clutch & ABF/G60 combo don't weigh hardly any different when you weigh them   :lipsrsealed:

seriously?

well under the car, it was a hella lot easier putting on then taking off!!!

the gearbox... now that has some lbs to it

Yeah, was a thread a while ago about it, think it may of been Chris. that did it?

Yes gearbox is heavy, i was holding it up in place while a mate bolted it up... there was a few times ''HURRY THE F**K UP YOU C**T'' got used lol
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: Dave_IOW on 05 March 2012, 18:15
All good fun! My poxy release bearing has gone now, luckily i have got used to the noise now pmsl..
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 15:41
Right Guys need some info.. Im geting a strong vibration through car at 2k revs
Iv not gone over 2k revs as bricking it lol Other then that it is just driving like sh1t and wobbly so stil gonna say thats flywheel..when revise getting whining sound.. Slight squeek sound now too.. Only
Prob is i need for work and cant get sorted till end next week.. Is it ok to drive any tips and is it defo flywheel.. Im woried turbo or anything like that  :cry: also car judders like heartbeat when stand still
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: JimBR on 08 March 2012, 15:44
Dogbone mount snapped?
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 15:47
Hmmm ill have to try have a look i dis just get a dsg one put in 2 weeks ago :undecided:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 15:59
Just put car half on curb and had a look the dogbone mount looks bent.. Its still one peice but does not look straight so i think that has popped out place somehow :angry: the engine aint got no play tho cant move it :undecided:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: richw911 on 08 March 2012, 16:15
Right Guys need some info.. Im geting a strong vibration through car at 2k revs
Iv not gone over 2k revs as bricking it lol Other then that it is just driving like sh1t and wobbly so stil gonna say thats flywheel..when revise getting whining sound.. Slight squeek sound now too.. Only
Prob is i need for work and cant get sorted till end next week.. Is it ok to drive any tips and is it defo flywheel.. Im woried turbo or anything like that  :cry: also car judders like heartbeat when stand still

Gearbox?
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: GunnerCP on 08 March 2012, 16:19
Hmmm ill have to try have a look i dis just get a dsg one put in 2 weeks ago :undecided:
whats a dsg mount in terms of dogbones?

i've got a powerflex one if its of any use to you.....  :smiley:
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 16:20
Its Engaging gears normal tho :undecided: hope just flywheel. Evrytime i Drive it feels more crap and juddering. and i need for work this weekend and then take it on a 15 mile drive to garage
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 16:23
H
Hmmm ill have to try have a look i dis just get a dsg one put in 2 weeks ago :undecided:
whats a dsg mount in terms of dogbones?

i've got a powerflex one if its of any use to you.....  :smiley:

Had powerflex bushes bud hated them thats why got standard r32 dsg mount then was all fine until last sunday evrything was just fooked and drive is so bumpy and horrible.. I know my flywheel was on last legs as i was getting a judder on idle and when driving which just got more bad by the day
Title: Re: Flywheel
Post by: navmk4gti on 08 March 2012, 18:36
right guys there is like a slight oily residue bottom the engine by back dogbone mount.. it has been there for a good while to be fair but looks kinda fresh.. first gear is becoming a c unt to get into on way to work..its a bit stiff rest gears are fine... dont know if this is becuase the flywheel fooked..im going to take to chris on monday get it looked at good and propa before fit g60 flywheel and vr6 clutch.. if the gearbox looks like its fooked too then im going to just strip it as i had enough of the car now spent to much on it and the bodywork is really bad so aint worth fixing...just cancelled with the bodyshop for a respray  too :cry: :cry: :cry:

will see what happens monday .. well gutted  :sad: