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Title: settle an argument!!
Post by: dhorsfall2000 on 29 February 2012, 10:39
hi, my nana has a 02 plate vaux corsa auto and the battery has gone flat, i told them to take it off and charge it but my brother reckons you cant take it off or it will bugger the elecrtics/gearbox, ive never heard off this, is it true???????
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 February 2012, 10:47
hi, my nana has a 02 plate vaux corsa auto and the battery has gone flat, i told them to take it off and charge it but my brother reckons you cant take it off or it will bugger the elecrtics/gearbox, ive never heard off this, is it true???????

What a load of tosh... Just make sure you have the code for the stereo if it requires one.  other than it's fine to take a battery off.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Khare on 29 February 2012, 11:03
So what he's saying is that every time the battery has to be changed, the electrics and the gearbox have to be changed/repaired?  :laugh:
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Len on 29 February 2012, 11:08
Vauxhall do tell you not to jumpstart or charge the battery in the car! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: dhorsfall2000 on 29 February 2012, 11:59
hi, my nana has a 02 plate vaux corsa auto and the battery has gone flat, i told them to take it off and charge it but my brother reckons you cant take it off or it will bugger the elecrtics/gearbox, ive never heard off this, is it true???????

What a load of tosh... Just make sure you have the code for the stereo if it requires one.  other than it's fine to take a battery off.

cheers, thats what i thought
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: justalex81 on 29 February 2012, 12:34
that goes for any POS vauxhall, citroen,fiat peugeot etc.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 29 February 2012, 12:42
Vauxhall do tell you not to jumpstart or charge the battery in the car! :rolleyes:

Pretty much this!

If you take the battery off and charge, then fine. If you jump start it then that could cause issues..
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Kerrse on 29 February 2012, 12:42
Vauxhall do tell you not to jumpstart or charge the battery in the car! :rolleyes:

Be interesting trying to jump start it with the battery out of the car  :grin:
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: justalex81 on 29 February 2012, 12:50
on my peugeot expert van the battery went flat i charged it up still in the vehicle went to start it and it blew the ecu up. will never buy french again. this was when i was about to sell it for a good price and i lost the sale. i'm about £1500 down because of it
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 February 2012, 12:58
To safely charge a battery in situe, I would simply remove the positive lead for the car first.

Stories of blowing stuff up when jumping are usually the result of bad lead positioning.  You shouldn't really connect both batteries directly together.  The safer way to do it is Positive to Positive, and the negative from the supply car should be connected to the body of the flat car, not the battery.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Khare on 29 February 2012, 13:04
To safely charge a battery in situe, I would simply remove the positive lead for the car first.

Stories of blowing stuff up when jumping are usually the result of bad lead positioning.  You shouldn't really connect both batteries directly together.  The safer way to do it is Positive to Positive, and the negative from the supply car should be connected to the body of the flat car, not the battery.

Yup, that's how I've always done it.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: R32UK on 29 February 2012, 13:22
call the aa/rac. always worked for me
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: justalex81 on 29 February 2012, 15:09
To safely charge a battery in situe, I would simply remove the positive lead for the car first.

Stories of blowing stuff up when jumping are usually the result of bad lead positioning.  You shouldn't really connect both batteries directly together.  The safer way to do it is Positive to Positive, and the negative from the supply car should be connected to the body of the flat car, not the battery.

exactly what i did
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: madmanluke on 29 February 2012, 15:25
What difference does it make if you put the negative to a ground on the chassis or the battery? The chassis is grounded to the battery, making a circuit. It wont make a difference where you put it.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Ant1981 on 29 February 2012, 18:11
What difference does it make if you put the negative to a ground on the chassis or the battery? The chassis is grounded to the battery, making a circuit. It wont make a difference where you put it.

Electrically, there isn't any difference.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 29 February 2012, 19:50
Not sure what difference this makes either...the body to the negative will be more or less 0 ohms, essentially same point
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: danny_p on 29 February 2012, 20:34
usally put jump lead on to some engine bracket.

some cars really really hate being bump started    pudgits and sh!torens are famous for that one.

not met anything yet that wont jump start some arnt so straight forward tho, usally fnd it better to connect them up and leave 10 mins  dont even need the car doing the jumping to be running
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Ant1981 on 29 February 2012, 20:37
And with the cars not liking being jump started, can't see the difference in connecting jump leads to the battery and starting the car, as all the car will see is a 12v battery that'll start it.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Gavv8 on 29 February 2012, 20:43
So what he's saying is that every time the battery has to be changed, the electrics and the gearbox have to be changed/repaired?  :laugh:
It is a vauxhall................
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: droofer on 29 February 2012, 20:44
on my peugeot expert van the battery went flat i charged it up still in the vehicle went to start it and it blew the ecu up. will never buy french again. this was when i was about to sell it for a good price and i lost the sale. i'm about £1500 down because of it

 :sad: - ive heard of this happening on a bmw too.very costly it was also.
Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 29 February 2012, 21:06
settle an argument!!

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Title: Re: settle an argument!!
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 29 February 2012, 21:55
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