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General => General discussion => Topic started by: golf-sib on 25 February 2012, 13:52
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Which graphics card, looking at £50-60 bracket, with:
HDMI to support 1920x1080 resolution which I currently use on my 32" monitor*
Not fussed on graphics as I do play games like CIV4 (currently have a 8500GT 512mb, but nothing to impressive)
I'm an nVidia fan!
PCI-E
*Also can sound be streamed via graphics card and HDMI as this would be ideal for me as my creative speakers pick up a lot of noise when idle and would prefer to use the monitors speakers.
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AMD 5750 ain't bad for £50
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Sound can be taken from the on my laptop, i know that much, i havnt used a PCI-E Card with HDMI but i cant see why not.
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My builds a tower unit, think motherboard is 1.0 PCI-E revision, I know some of the ATI GFX cards have issues with the 1.0 interface over the 2.0 that they are designed for.
I see the 520GT is cheaper than the 430GT, not sure why even after reading this:
http://solidlystated.com/hardware/gt-520-vs-gt-430/
So whats better, clock speeds or bandwidth speeds, remember I don't really game.
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ATI 5670HD - about £40 and its the best performance/£ in that bracket. Plus the XFI one has a massive heatsink and no fan - so its quiet
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-261-AS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=
if you prefer nvidia.
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some sound advice, any idea id I will get sound through the hdmi?
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Fairly sure the ATI 5670HD does :)
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any ati card from the 5000 series i believe gives you sound via hdmi.
you can't be an ati or nvidia fanboy because you're not a hardcore gamer.
this is the future for you:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-258-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=
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Everyone tells me Radeon is a better card, but I've allways bought Nivida running a 8600GT myself it doesn't have HDMI but it can process 1080P no problems through DVI without the sound!
I'm sure these 8600GT are like £40 now?
But heard good things about The Sapphire or Asus HD 5670 £60 odd pounds bargin!
If you can find a cheap one of these it might do the job but I would just go for a 5670 for the money!
Gainward Bliss GeForce 8600GT, 1024MB TV DD, DDR2, 2x DVI, VGA, TV-Out, HDTV, HDCP, PCI-E, SLI Graphics Card for the money!
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ATI comes with overdrive for easy clocking, my one is set at 100% fan speed keeping my feet warm and my card cold ish :grin:
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Everyone tells me Radeon is a better card, but I've allways bought Nivida running a 8600GT myself it doesn't have HDMI but it can process 1080P no problems through DVI without the sound!
I'm sure these 8600GT are like £40 now?
But heard good things about The Sapphire or Asus HD 5670 £60 odd pounds bargin!
If you can find a cheap one of these it might do the job but I would just go for a 5670 for the money!
Gainward Bliss GeForce 8600GT, 1024MB TV DD, DDR2, 2x DVI, VGA, TV-Out, HDTV, HDCP, PCI-E, SLI Graphics Card for the money!
did you not see my link? 6670 for £55!
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I did Alex but some of the older cards have more clock speeds and run GDDR5 he can use the mem to speed his PC up!
plus O/Cing an older card might be better for his needs?
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cheapest 1gb 5670 is £70 odd. that's the same money as a 6670.
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4000 MHz Effective 5670
Memory Clock: 1800MHz (Effective) 6670
I haven't researched into it but off the top of my head I would look at FRP's and people's experiences!
I've seen top end older cards beat lower end newer cards!
If it was a decent card no way it be on special offer plus they would have flown out of the cart?
I only know what people have used and O/ced well as for £10 extra who cares?
The only other consideration is that newer cards rely on newer and more cores to do some of the work?
I don't know his system specs he currently uses, but if he runs a P4 and runs a 6670 his temps could cause throttling?
The flip side is a top performing 6670 is well expensive?
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GTX 550Ti
This - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-gtx-550-ti-4104mhz-gddr5-gpu-900mhz-shader-1800mhz-192-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-d-sub-hdmi (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-gtx-550-ti-4104mhz-gddr5-gpu-900mhz-shader-1800mhz-192-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-d-sub-hdmi)
A little over £80, but a good card still, and HDMI :p
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4000 MHz Effective 5670
Memory Clock: 1800MHz (Effective) 6670
I haven't researched into it but off the top of my head I would look at FRP's and people's experiences!
I've seen top end older cards beat lower end newer cards!
If it was a decent card no way it be on special offer plus they would have flown out of the cart?
I only know what people have used and O/ced well as for £10 extra who cares?
The only other consideration is that newer cards rely on newer and more cores to do some of the work?
I don't know his system specs he currently uses, but if he runs a P4 and runs a 6670 his temps could cause throttling?
The flip side is a top performing 6670 is well expensive?
Embarrassingly I am still on a P4 with HT, can't remember whether the bios allows any control over the throttling on my MB. It has been a very long time since I was into pc's hardcore style. Believe I am on PCI-E 1.0 as well which I heard later spec ATI cards have a problem with... not sure how true this is.
I am running an uprated HS on the CPU, but this stuff is now getting ancient, but I don't see a point upgrading as I use a console for gaming and the pc meets my needs easily for what it is used for, however I have been eyeing up some of these new desktop build with the 22" touchscreen monitor and everything built into the monitor.
My current tower is a bit cramped as well :sad: Went from a big thermaltake to a Media center sized case unit when I first moved and was used as a MC as I had a laptop, then when I moved again it became a desktop PC in the same tinchy case :sad:
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4000 MHz Effective 5670
Memory Clock: 1800MHz (Effective) 6670
I haven't researched into it but off the top of my head I would look at FRP's and people's experiences!
I've seen top end older cards beat lower end newer cards!
If it was a decent card no way it be on special offer plus they would have flown out of the cart?
I only know what people have used and O/ced well as for £10 extra who cares?
The only other consideration is that newer cards rely on newer and more cores to do some of the work?
I don't know his system specs he currently uses, but if he runs a P4 and runs a 6670 his temps could cause throttling?
The flip side is a top performing 6670 is well expensive?
Embarrassingly I am still on a P4 with HT, can't remember whether the bios allows any control over the throttling on my MB. It has been a very long time since I was into pc's hardcore style. Believe I am on PCI-E 1.0 as well which I heard later spec ATI cards have a problem with... not sure how true this is.
I am running an uprated HS on the CPU, but this stuff is now getting ancient, but I don't see a point upgrading as I use a console for gaming and the pc meets my needs easily for what it is used for, however I have been eyeing up some of these new desktop build with the 22" touchscreen monitor and everything built into the monitor.
My current tower is a bit cramped as well :sad: Went from a big thermaltake to a Media center sized case unit when I first moved and was used as a MC as I had a laptop, then when I moved again it became a desktop PC in the same tinchy case :sad:
I'm still using a P4 but I o/C @ 4.4GHZ can go to 5.5GHZ on Phase hence people laugh at me when I say I have a P4 but my rig is a SFF thats MATX board!
I just see no point in upgrading until mine dies, but I clean the fans, CPUcooler & M/B every three weeks with compressed gas and its never jumped a beat, except for Viruses! My rig cost me £900 8 years ago!
All I've changed is two fans a PSU my fault due to O/Cing!
Keeping temps to a sweet spot on P4's is the key it will last!
Check if there is options to turn off any usable mem from the GPU and other devices the whole system would run smoother!
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What the hell are you cooling with? Especially to keep it OC'd that high and what are your OC stats such as FSB, unlocked multiplier etc...?
What core is it, prescott?
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Simple 570J 3.8 stock it can be rode hard enough !
4.4GHz is just on fans I've got the record for single die! :smug:
Anything above I use a custom Phase cooler I built!
I've got pictures somewhere!
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Simple 570J 3.8 stock it can be rode hard enough !
4.4GHz is just on fans I've got the record for single die! :smug:
Anything above I use a custom Phase cooler I built!
I've got pictures somewhere!
Get them up, I got a pic somewhere of building a fan unit and overclocking a mx400 :grin: :cool: it dies at 490mhz :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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:grin:
Well my system goes down to -76C :nerd:
I stopped mucking about when P4's died but thinking about building more systems now the Sandy bridges have unlocked there cores!
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa51/Clipperjay/PhaseCooling/Comp149.jpg)
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa51/Clipperjay/PhaseCooling/DD.jpg)
I made it smaller towards the end the fan is only 120mm so you can gauge how small I finally made it!
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa51/Clipperjay/PhaseCooling/IMG_2850.jpg)
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Thats hardcore, I like the builds where the components are submerged in a tank full of oil. But your build is crazy, wasn't expecting to see this. Let me guess your now building a flux capacitor :tongue: :grin:
I would love a water cooled build with external radiators like you saw with thermaltakes mozart kit, which was external radiators with silent fans set up too look like speakers.
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Thats hardcore, I like the builds where the components are submerged in a tank full of oil. But your build is crazy, wasn't expecting to see this. Let me guess your now building a flux capacitor :tongue: :grin:
I would love a water cooled build with external radiators like you saw with thermaltakes mozart kit, which was external radiators with silent fans set up too look like speakers.
It was a dare..... to Phase cool a SFF I did it out of a dare wasn't easy to do, but at that time I wasn't even a engineer! :laugh:
Chilled water cooling is where its at, safer on the M/B! Temps never fall bellow 0
I've got Canadian friends who use old heater matrix stick them outside there window in winter and run coolant through there pipes and cores :grin:
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Thats hardcore, I like the builds where the components are submerged in a tank full of oil. But your build is crazy, wasn't expecting to see this. Let me guess your now building a flux capacitor :tongue: :grin:
I would love a water cooled build with external radiators like you saw with thermaltakes mozart kit, which was external radiators with silent fans set up too look like speakers.
It was a dare..... to Phase cool a SFF I did it out of a dare wasn't easy to do, but at that time I wasn't even a engineer! :laugh:
Chilled water cooling is where its at, safer on the M/B! Temps never fall bellow 0
I've got Canadian friends who use old heater matrix stick them outside there window in winter and run coolant through there pipes and cores :grin:
Surely with that setup you could replace the boiler with a PC :grin:
If you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living?
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Thats hardcore, I like the builds where the components are submerged in a tank full of oil. But your build is crazy, wasn't expecting to see this. Let me guess your now building a flux capacitor :tongue: :grin:
I would love a water cooled build with external radiators like you saw with thermaltakes mozart kit, which was external radiators with silent fans set up too look like speakers.
It was a dare..... to Phase cool a SFF I did it out of a dare wasn't easy to do, but at that time I wasn't even a engineer! :laugh:
Chilled water cooling is where its at, safer on the M/B! Temps never fall bellow 0
I've got Canadian friends who use old heater matrix stick them outside there window in winter and run coolant through there pipes and cores :grin:
Surely with that setup you could replace the boiler with a PC :grin:
If you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living?
Thats a secret! A bit of everthing thats interesting in this day and age! :grin:
Boilers thats Alex's territory he fixed my boiler system, very good our justalex81
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Thats hardcore, I like the builds where the components are submerged in a tank full of oil. But your build is crazy, wasn't expecting to see this. Let me guess your now building a flux capacitor :tongue: :grin:
I would love a water cooled build with external radiators like you saw with thermaltakes mozart kit, which was external radiators with silent fans set up too look like speakers.
It was a dare..... to Phase cool a SFF I did it out of a dare wasn't easy to do, but at that time I wasn't even a engineer! :laugh:
Chilled water cooling is where its at, safer on the M/B! Temps never fall bellow 0
I've got Canadian friends who use old heater matrix stick them outside there window in winter and run coolant through there pipes and cores :grin:
Surely with that setup you could replace the boiler with a PC :grin:
If you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living?
Thats a secret! A bit of everthing thats interesting in this day and age! :grin:
Boilers thats Alex's territory he fixed my boiler system, very good our justalex81
I'll send a pm then :grin:
Yeah Alex lives not far from me, though I have never met him.
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jay it's only the lower end 6670's which have a low memory speed the ones for £70 have 4000mhz effective, higher core clock speed and more stream processors.
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jay it's only the lower end 6670's which have a low memory speed the ones for £70 have 4000mhz effective, higher core clock speed and more stream processors.
Cool if it works and ticks his boxes he should go for a newer card I'm sure his level of electronics knowledge he proberly knows what he is doing, proberly just buy a newer comp in the end like me before it completely dies LOL!
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cheers for the recommendation jay :cool:
and golf-sib you'll never forget meeting me :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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cheers for the recommendation jay :cool:
and golf-sib you'll never forget meeting me :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Explain :grin: :grin:
I don't even know where aboot in welling you are roughly, plus I'm in northfleet now :lipsrsealed: Parents still live there not to far from machine mart in blenden/blackfen/sidcup or whatever you want to call it.
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well please pass my details on to your parents if they ever have any problems with their heating/gas etc. It's blackfen btw :wink:
my number is 07540371419.
company is heat technologies ltd. i have a website but it's sh1t. i have a graphic designer/web developer meeting on saturday!
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i have a graphic designer/web developer meeting on saturday!
Don't spend too much, most folk on here can help you get set up for next to nothing.