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Title: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 22:43
Ok, so I was in the sorry and just generally thinkin about what I wanted to do with te front end of the mk4 (Anni valance/r32 bumper) and the. I suddenly thought about a golf I saw in fast car which ha a r32 front end and was majorly modified (1000hpish) and was geared for 270mph .... Which then made my mind flick to a topic I saw about the golf being restricted on the top end due to air resistance ....... Which theeeen made me wonder of the r32 bumper had any benefits in the drag/downforce area of things.
I know by no means it will magically increase your top end etc but just wondered if there was any extra the. Just the appearance benifits haha

Opinions?
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 22:50
I doubt it will make a noticable difference to any speed gains but it will look nicer 
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 22:52
I doubt it will make a noticable difference to any speed gains but it will look nicer 

Yeah I know it wouldn't make any noticeable differences but just wondered if it made any at all haha
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 22:53
have you ever seen someone play the imaginary 'worlds smallest violin' for sarcasm??

As if you have, when they rub their fingers together, thats how much gain you'll get lol  :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 22:55
have you ever seen someone play the imaginary 'worlds smallest violin' for sarcasm??

As if you have, when they rub their fingers together, thats how much gain you'll get lol  :smiley:

 :laugh:
Just one of them mind wandering moments haha
I mean would Vw think of such a thing during the design?
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 22:57
Yeah most likely. They piss away a large amount of money in the design process so i would assume they cover aerodynamics at some stage.

Whether there is any gain from a standard bumper over a R32 bumper? Think you might have to ask kindly to a vw designer  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 22:59
Yeah most likely. They piss away a large amount of money in the design process so i would assume they cover aerodynamics at some stage.

Whether there is any gain from a standard bumper over a R32 bumper? Think you might have to ask kindly to a vw designer  :laugh:

Yeah I thought that but I'm sure they just missed out the whole aerodynamics things while designing the mk4  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 23:01
I admit i'm not too fond of how the mk4 looks but if i ever owned one it would have to be a turbo, then i could live with it's looks lol.

Much prefer the mk1,2 and 3 look.

Although i might get a kicking for putting those three mks in a line  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 23:08
Yeah could never have a non turbo the 1.8t is slow enough standard never the the n/a ones haha
Dunno about the mk3 but do love the mk2 and
Mk1  :cool:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 23:11
Careful lol. I love my mk3, Treated it to heated seats and alloy respray this week. amongst other things must have spent £400 on it this week alone, luckily it's pay day tomorrow  :evil:

But personal preference and all that crap etc lol
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: golfyste on 23 February 2012, 23:13
Careful lol. I love my mk3, Treated it to heated seats and alloy respray this week. amongst other things must have spent £400 on it this week alone, luckily it's pay day tomorrow  :evil:

But personal preference and all that crap etc lol

.....sorry  :laugh:
Never said I don't like them.....just prefer the others  :grin: ha
Yeah I had a bit of a spending spree the last month or two......and still got my coilovers to get haha
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 23:14
Yeah  :grin:

I'm going to be poor this month, no major spending on stuff i want just cos i want it.

Definatly going to have to put pics up, as i haven't put any up since i bought it 8 months ago from rumlad on here
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: danny_p on 23 February 2012, 23:19
bumpers of the faster higher speck cars have a tendancy to be LESS aerodynmic

sacrifices are made to make it Look fast and mean and stuff.   as it's a hot hatch not a racecar.    on the bog std base cars there more fussed with economy so if an easy gain is had from aero they take it.  on the more powerfull models economy isn't quite so high up the list so things that look cool but bugger up the aeros aer allowed
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 23 February 2012, 23:20
^^^^ how dare you put 1 2 and 3 in the same sentance!  :shocked:  :grin:

Mk1s are so anti drag coefficient that VW had to put a big chin spoiler on the front valance to help keep its nose a little closer to the ground post 100mph. Certainly not there to make it go faster.  I would imagine with various modern cars including the mk4, drag is a heavily tested factor but with the R32 it had to look meaner/sportier than lower models, so they would have least made sure the front of it was no less efficient than a standard front but doubt it's designed to make it go faster.
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 23:20
bumpers of the faster higher speck cars have a tendancy to be LESS aerodynmic

sacrifices are made to make it Look fast and mean and stuff.   as it's a hot hatch not a racecar.    on the bog std base cars there more fussed with economy so if an easy gain is had from aero they take it.  on the more powerfull models economy isn't quite so high up the list so things that look cool but bugger up the aeros aer allowed

That's help covered and i definatly did sarcasm, so we living up to the forums tag line lol
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 23:21
^^^^ how dare you put 1 2 and 3 in the same sentance!  :shocked:  :grin:

Mk1s are so anti drag coefficient that VW had to put a big chin spoiler on the front valance to help keep its nose a little closer to the ground post 100mph. Certainly not there to make it go faster.  I would imagine with various modern cars including the mk4, drag is a heavily tested factor but with the R32 it had to look meaner/sportier than lower models, so they would have least made sure the front of it was no less efficient than a standard front but doubt it's designed to make it go faster.

Thanks, knew someone would  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk4 aerodynamics?
Post by: SoundillusioN on 23 February 2012, 23:49
I may have resisted if you hadn't mentioned it.  :grin: