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Title: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 20:52
I am self employed and employ 10 people, my work load is ridiculous so I am thinking about taking on a couple of apprentices to act as helpers to my engineers with them ultimately learning a trade.

Does anyone know what pay an apprentice gets or anything uselful that I should know?
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 22 February 2012, 20:55
minimum pay for a apprentice iirc is around £90 per hour.

belive theres quite a bit of info on the direct.gov website. or there used to be.



get in contact with some training providers around you, they should be able to help out with teaching the lads a bit to start off with so they have the basics and will proberbly be able to help you with any other questions you have.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: thatwillis on 22 February 2012, 20:56
minimum pay for a apprentice iirc is around £90 per hour.

Sign me up  :laugh:

I'm guessing you mean £9 an hour, But i'm sure its alot less than that! A mate of mine is an appentice mechanic and hes on about 200quid a week.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: murraymint on 22 February 2012, 20:56
Is that ment to be £90 a week?

Is not I'm being mugged off!
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Chris. on 22 February 2012, 21:04
£90 a week or about 2.90 a hour I think.

Not sure if you get some government funding for doing an apprentaceship though.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 22 February 2012, 21:06
oops sorry £90 a week yes  :grin:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 21:09
Just found this on the directgov website:

The apprentice minimum wage is currently £2.60 per hour and applies to time working, plus time spent training that is part of the Apprenticeship. Employers are be free to pay above the new wage and many do so, but employers must ensure that they are paying their apprentices at least the minimum wage.

The National Apprenticeship Service will provide up to 40,000 Apprenticeship grants to smallmedium sized employers recruiting 16 to 24 year olds with a value of £1,500 to encourage new employers to take on new apprentices.

Looking more and more appealing!!
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Steve_PD on 22 February 2012, 21:10
My first year I got £7.60 an hour.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 21:13
I prefer £2.60  :grin:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: barrym381 on 22 February 2012, 21:16
I prefer £2.60  :grin:
slave driver  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Rmachines on 22 February 2012, 21:17
Just over £3 per hour for first year,  £4.50ish  2nd and £6.80 odd for 3rd.   
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: murraymint on 22 February 2012, 21:17
Im currently doing an apprenticeship and I'm on £6 an hour  :smiley:

Edit: and I'm in my first year
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: clipperjay on 22 February 2012, 21:17
This is good we need more younger people trained up, there is going to be a serious shortage of skilled workers in a few decades!
I'm trying to set up a research grant for my old Uni to do some work for me they learn and supply me with some R&D cheap to do NO, invest in the future YES!

Just don't fire any of them 10 other workers because young labour is cheap  :evil:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 21:25
No chance of firing the existing guys, they are fully trained and time served engineers and I would be lost without them!

Ideally I would take on a couple of guys who could walk straight into the job but my industry isn't like that so alot of training is required to get someone up to a high standard.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: clipperjay on 22 February 2012, 21:28
No chance of firing the existing guys, they are fully trained and time served engineers and I would be lost without them!

Ideally I would take on a couple of guys who could walk straight into the job but my industry isn't like that so alot of training is required to get someone up to a high standard.

Just remember being young and a bit rough means paitence, give them all the chances they can have mate!
I have a chief engineer I would be buggered without him gets away with murder that one!  :grin:   
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 21:52
Yeah I know what you are saying, I want someone who wants to learn and has an interest in what we do. Of course they get the sh!t jobs too but that's part of starting at the bottom, we have all been there!

My head engineer has been with the company for 27 years, he started on YTS (remember that?). This was before my time mind!
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Steve_PD on 22 February 2012, 22:00
Out of interest what type of work do you do?
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: justalex81 on 22 February 2012, 22:12
Out of interest what type of work do you do?

and finally someone asks the question  :grin:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 22:26
Very varied, I am currently working on a project where we have put a new tv aerial on a hotel, then digitally multiplexed some resort channels into this freeview system (running through cat6 from the reception), running that hotel off this system then sending the same signals via fibre optic about a mile and a half to their second hotel, running the second hotel off the aerial on the first hotel, then sending the signals around the compex to about 50 rental properties. We are also putting in about 50 new Panasonic televisions. Then we are turning both hotels and the village wireless for guest internet access.

My company is a Panasonic Service Centre, we are Sky agents, we maintain several housing associations IRS systems, we install CCTV, Commercial Wi-Fi, Satellite broadband, commercial catering equipment, domestic aerials, televisions, Bose dealership etc, etc

I have so much work on and coming up that I seriously need to think about more staff. I am currently working on a deal where we maintain 2000 properties for another housing association, on top of the ones we already maintain. I have also taken on a 5 year programme of work with 4 major contractors. I design and install the commercial stuff and I am having to put people off for months before I can even look at their projects.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Rmachines on 22 February 2012, 22:32
Im currently doing an apprenticeship and I'm on £6 an hour  :smiley:

Edit: and I'm in my first year

You can be paied as much as they want to pay you but there is a minimum which i think is awfully low in the first year.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: tomp on 22 February 2012, 22:35
I read somewhere that its £2.60 an hour minimum in the first year!
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: murraymint on 22 February 2012, 22:37
Very varied, I am currently working on a project where we have put a new tv aerial on a hotel, then digitally multiplexed some resort channels into this freeview system (running through cat6 from the reception), running that hotel off this system then sending the same signals via fibre optic about a mile and a half to their second hotel, running the second hotel off the aerial on the first hotel, then sending the signals around the compex to about 50 rental properties. We are also putting in about 50 new Panasonic televisions. Then we are turning both hotels and the village wireless for guest internet access.

My company is a Panasonic Service Centre, we are Sky agents, we maintain several housing associations IRS systems, we install CCTV, Commercial Wi-Fi, Satellite broadband, commercial catering equipment, domestic aerials, televisions, Bose dealership etc, etc

I have so much work on and coming up that I seriously need to think about more staff. I am currently working on a deal where we maintain 2000 properties for another housing association, on top of the ones we already maintain. I have also taken on a 5 year programme of work with 4 major contractors. I design and install the commercial stuff and I am having to put people off for months before I can even look at their projects.

Sounds like you need more then two more staff. Good to hear a besiness doin well in these times
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: murraymint on 22 February 2012, 22:38
Im currently doing an apprenticeship and I'm on £6 an hour  :smiley:

Edit: and I'm in my first year

You can be paied as much as they want to pay you but there is a minimum which i think is awfully low in the first year.

Yh that's why I was pritty happy with £6 an hour, was expecting less then half that!
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Kerrse on 23 February 2012, 08:44
When i was an apprentice the standard used to be £29 a week on CITB apprenticeships  :shocked: if you were lucky your employer would top it up

I did a few different apprenticeships ended up not sticking to any of them as the money was so bad, would probably do it differently if i knew what i knew now  :grin:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: JulesS3 on 23 February 2012, 09:11
I read somewhere that its £2.60 an hour minimum in the first year!

the first page?
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: CJA321 on 23 February 2012, 13:56
My first year as a mechanic was £2 an hour  :cry:

in scotland they pay you whatever they want untill your 19 or second year....

So yeah, £40 An hour labour for £2 an hour pay. Was on £80 for 40 hour week. and this was only 3 years ago!!!!

Lotta money to be made outa poor youngsters  :cry:
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: Podge92 on 23 February 2012, 14:51
put it this way, im 19 i work in scotmid, and walk out with roughly 190 a week. My mate 2nd year mechanic is walking out with much less then that for a 60 hour week.

my dream job was a mechanic...this put me off

im guessing the jobs you have going are down in england?
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: X01X on 23 February 2012, 15:09
Incase anyone near me reads this and needs aprrentices. I'm currently training as a mechanic and about to finish my second year.

Need someone to take me on to to do my third and fourth year and after them for full time work etc.

If anyone is interested drop me a message.
 

Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: emery1990 on 23 February 2012, 17:33
Murray, if your over a certain age then that £2.90 doesn't apply, pretty sure thats just for 16-17 years old then more for 18 year olds then more for 19 untill your 21? then its normal minimum wage. I think.
Title: Re: Apprenticeships (Employer)
Post by: murraymint on 23 February 2012, 17:51
O right didn't know that, just thort all apprenticeships pay Was crap. I'm 20 btw started when I was 19