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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: b3an6030 on 18 February 2012, 22:37

Title: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: b3an6030 on 18 February 2012, 22:37
Well as titled really, I went to Change my sump a little while ago and I couldn't get access to all of the bolts. I think there was maybe 2 bolts I couldn't get access to.. I've had a good search on different forums and the net to try and find some answers but couldn't find anything :(

Anyone got any info on how to get to them?

I ended up paying a garage and it was a insane amount to get sorted...

It was a 1.6 8v

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Jasikasisback on 18 February 2012, 23:14
Cant see anhonest mechanic charging amy more than 20 minutes of work time.
Sometimes bolts are a pain to find. Thays why vagcat are indipsensible!
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 February 2012, 23:56
why cant you get to them whats in the way?
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: tweed on 19 February 2012, 00:38
maybe you need some more tools?
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Seanl on 19 February 2012, 08:59
Your obviously referring to the 2 bolts on the gearbox side of the sump. Absolute b!tch to get to, but can  be done with a flexi extension bar for the ratchet (dont know the proper name but heres one similar)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNBRANDED-38197-150MM-FLEXIBLE-SCREWDRIVER-EXTENSION-/260938314680?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3cc122b3b8

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: b3an6030 on 19 February 2012, 11:31
Yea as in the last post on the gearbox side. I will get a photo this week to show you.. Have you managed to get the bolts off with one of those flexi things. It looked pretty much impossible to reach with out moving the gearbox out of the way or something..

Cheers
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: todd on 19 February 2012, 11:32
Take the plate off thats attached to the gearbox it's half moon shape it stops stones and excess water getting into the bellhousing then you should get them easy
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: b3an6030 on 19 February 2012, 11:53
Thanks Todd, I did read in the Haynes about taking something off.. But I couldn't see where you actually take it apart :/ and typically that's the only thing that wasn't pictured in the Haynes.

I will get under it this week and try and get some pictures..

Thanks
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Seanl on 19 February 2012, 13:12
Its just a thin alloy plate that sits over the gap and is secured by 2 bolts. Its still a twit to get at as the angle is funny (bends one way, then the other) iirc, should be able to get it off with the flexi though. I took mine off with the engine and GB out though, but I need this for the Raddo when I get round to doing it.
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 February 2012, 13:18
I know the bolts you mean, we had trouble getting some off a mates sump, we even had one of those flexi things but they were on so tight it wouldn't work. In the end we had to take the gearbox off
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Jasikasisback on 19 February 2012, 18:57
i hope you didn't take the gearbox off but just took the gearbox guard off...I changed the transmission oil and filter recently with a mate and wouldn't even dream of taking the gearbox off as that would be  :laugh:
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: F17BAD on 19 February 2012, 19:00
I can remove a sump in 20 mins max (iv removed loads now as i always change Pick up pipe)

i use a Allen key with the Ball end.

Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Seanl on 19 February 2012, 19:09
I can remove a sump in 20 mins max (iv removed loads now as i always change Pick up pipe)

i use a Allen key with the Ball end.



When I did my golf one, the original bolts were all just 10mm (I think) bolts. I bought a full set of replacements, and these had the allen key fitment within the bolt though. Think that could be hit and miss.
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: F17BAD on 19 February 2012, 21:27
all ones iv done have had the alen hole in the centre, use a small bar on the allen key, no probles at all..

remember on replacement to torq correctly and use the VW silicone paste   :nerd:
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 February 2012, 21:49
the one we did wasn't on a mk3 so probably slightly different, but there was deffinatly no way of getting to the bolts without taking the gearbox off. Was in a mk1 it started off as an abf I think but has all kinds of different engine parts all over the place trust me we did lots of research to try and find another way :P
Title: Re: Can't reach all the bolts when changing sump :(
Post by: Ninj on 19 February 2012, 21:54
Agreed! Pain in the ar5e. Mine are torx bolts and the only I managed those two was with a long torx but coming to put them back in I could do nothing to avoid cross threading them  :rolleyes:

I think maybe a 3/8 or 1/4 bit holder might work, mine are 1/2" and it's the bit holder which gets stuck