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Title: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 09 February 2012, 09:34
My mate has a gtd and has been given some wheel spacers (20mm rear, 10mm on fronts) from a mk4 that had rs6 wheels (dont know the wheel name of his but they are 17 standard?) can the wheel spacers fit on his?
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Ess_Three on 09 February 2012, 12:07
No.

Mk4s are 5 x 100mm...GTDs are 5 x 112mm.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 09 February 2012, 15:40
Ok thanks....
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 09 February 2012, 16:06
A lot of spacers are double drilled and will have 10 holes (plus the centre hole of course).
So they may be 5x100 and 5x112mm.

Don't fit cheap spacers and make sure you have good quality longer wheel bolts.

20mm will probably be too wide for the back of a mk6 and 10mm will probably be too wide for the front, so ebay the 20mm and fit the 10mm on the back (assuming they are top quality double drilled spacers with proper hubcentric fittings).

End of sermon.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: KennyGTI on 09 February 2012, 18:47
Forge Motorsport do spacers. Not cheap but good quality I would imagine!
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 09:49
Thanks for advice...they are good quality wheel spacers... stamped H&R and other ones I cant remember
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Post by: Rhyso on 10 February 2012, 09:56
I bought my H&R Spacers from DPM Performance for my Audi which has the same stud pattern as the MK6  :smiley:
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 10:02
Rhyso I also brought some spacers off ebay that you did too?
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Rhyso on 10 February 2012, 10:06
Rhyso I also brought some spacers off ebay that you did too?

For the MK4 yeah
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 11:34
Do you think they will fit mk6 as well?
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Rhyso on 10 February 2012, 11:53
Do you think they will fit mk6 as well?

No they won't as the stud pattern is wrong and they weren't multi-fit

You NEED 5 x 112 spacers  :smiley:
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 18:41
Am a little confused as to how wheel spacers will suddenly allow any make of alloy wheel to fit on the car? I am interested in the bmw ones csl and will be going for 18"? Or should I go for 19"? Ideally would like a little gap between wheel and arch without having to lower it really. Done lowering on coilovers before as I hated the natural ride height of my mk4 but now finding it hard to go over speed humps etc but still want the look of fullness in the wheel arch....
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 18:53
You need to read up on this stuff Mrs Jones.
To fit BMW wheels  :sick: you'll need hub adaptors which are like spacers but have a bolt pattern to bolt the adaptor to the hub and then the wheel will bolt to the adaptor. You will then have to make sure the offset and width of the wheel allows you to do this or you will foul either the suspension or more likely the wheel arch.
Spacers are just that - they space the wheels out further in the arches.

I'm sure you can buy a similar design to CSL wheels (I've no idea what CSL wheels look like as I'm not 'scene' and I don't like BMWs) in a correct VW fitment. VMR do that type of wheel and there are loads of VMR replicas about in VW fitment.

Wide dished alloys don't suit mk5 and mk6 Golfs which are tall slab sided cars. Leave the wide wheels and silly suspension to the teenagers in sticker covered mk3s.

If you want to know what wheels fit a mk6 then have a good search in this section, it has been covered many times and there is a huuuuge thread on non original wheels. There are also plenty of good photos on golfmk6.com
I've had two mk6s and about nine sets of wheels between those cars and the wheels that sit right in the arches tend to be 8inches wide and with an offset of around 44 or 45mm. 18s and 19s ride much the same.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 18:57
Thank you very much indeed for that information. I will have a look for some other wheels. I dislike BMW actual cars but these particular wheels IMO suit the car as well as what I am going for in look wise.

I will also look out for 5x112 wheel spacers to accompany the wheels if nothing else suits my budget or taste and pray thats all I need or those wheels to fit. Thank you
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 19:33
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-ROTIFORM-BBQ-STYLE-ALLOY-WHEELS-FIT-AUDI-SEAT-VW-NEW-/400271562050?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item5d320b5542#ht_1710wt_1165
No idea how good the finish would be on these though

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-RIVA-DTM-Alloy-Wheels-VW-SEAT-SKODA-VW-T4-T5-/190636871921?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item2c62d7d0f1#ht_3823wt_1165
Ditto

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-K-alloy-wheels-tyres-audi-vw-golf-passat-skoda-SEAT-/250925207899?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item3a6c4ed15b#ht_3403wt_1398
These look like the latest BBS design, so would make a change from the usual CH reps

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-ALLOY-WHEELS-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK5-MK6-CADDY-EOS-PASSAT-TOURAN-TRANSPORTER-T4-/300660986932?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item4600ca9434#ht_2201wt_1398
I like these the best though but fitment on the front could be tight
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 19:46
The last ones are defo my fav and look like the CSL's....you say tight fit  :cry:

I have been looking and some of them say 8j front and 9j rears....is that just for fitment of 5x100 or can this still be used for 5x112 as I am very interested in 8Jf and 9Jr's
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 19:48
Are the bottom ones on that list like these which i adore and now know they wont fit....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370582951204?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 19:52
8'' front with an offset of around 45mm (ET45) will be fine and 9'' rears with the same or similar offset should fit okay, just make sure they are the correct bolt pattern.
The 5x100 PCD ones normally come with ET35 which couldn't be made to fit as they'd end up with an offset of around 25mm if you fitted adaptors and the wheels would stick out about 2 inches from the wheel arches!!
If a dealer is selling 5x100s it's quite possible they can get 5x112s too, don't let them try and persuade you to fit adaptors as it isn't a happy situation and will void warranty and insurance.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 19:53
Are the bottom ones on that list like these which i adore and now know they wont fit....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370582951204?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Those won't fit. And can't be made to fit.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 20:14
Okay so best to go with the ones you picked out and just stick with the J's as they are....unless I can ask if they do 8f and 9r? Or not much difference between 8 and 9 to the overall look?
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 20:19
Offset has far more effect on appearance than width. It needs to be just right.
What's your budget? I'm running a set of these in 19'' and they're really good quality.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-VW-GOLF-MK4-97-04-BBS-CK-Alloy-Wheels-Only-/400234819052?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item5d2fdaadec#ht_4052wt_1398
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 20:27
Lovely but out of my budget...Ideally 600 all in with tyres  :sad:

Was told 19s are too big and drives like a wardrobe? Guess with 19s you dont need to lower the car/ Dont it look stupid as wheels are massive?
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 20:30
I've got some pics somewhere with them fitted to my last car, I'll go look in a min.

What colour car are you getting?
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Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 20:32
Black GTD
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 10 February 2012, 20:35
Thought I'd remembered you said that somewhere. Check out this thread for inspiration when you've got a couple of hours spare:
http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1889

And here's my last car on 19s:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=179225.0
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 10 February 2012, 20:53
Did you lower the car when they had 19s? or standard if so the ride height looks perfect
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 11 February 2012, 04:42
Did you lower the car when they had 19s? or standard if so the ride height looks perfect
At the time of those shots the car was very slightly lowered, not by an expensive coilover set, nor a cheap set of springs. I'd just fitted the wheels in the unit where those photos were taken and had my old Scirocco Interlagos wheels in the boot!
So, if you don't want the expense of fancy suspension kits - just chuck a load of junk in the boot...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 11 February 2012, 05:49
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Ess_Three on 11 February 2012, 06:28
Lovely but out of my budget...Ideally 600 all in with tyres  :sad:

Was told 19s are too big and drives like a wardrobe? Guess with 19s you dont need to lower the car/ Dont it look stupid as wheels are massive?

Wrong.
19s ride just fine...but the lower the profile of the tyres, the MORE you need the car lowered or it will look stupid, in my opinion.

I can't see why you'd want wider wheels at the rear of a FWD car...especially one that drives well...it'll only kill the handling.
But, each to their own.

8.5" x 18/19 on an offset of around 50 is about the max you will get in there without rubbing...that's using a 225 wide tyre. 235s will go, but it becomes offset critical. 225s aren't exactly stretched on a 8.5" rim...but the rim protector is on no practical use.
More things to consider.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 11 February 2012, 07:37
What's the closest looking wheel to v710s? Am on a budget and want either 18 or 19...read 19s cause horrible ride and affect acceleration but look ace and 18s look lost unless lowering etc

Will be ordering today....budget 600 with tires or close as
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Mr GTD on 11 February 2012, 08:39
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Will be ordering today....budget 600 with tires or close as

Good luck with what ever wheels you decide to go with...
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Post by: gizzywizzy on 11 February 2012, 08:41
What's the closest looking wheel to v710s? Am on a budget and want either 18 or 19...read 19s cause horrible ride and affect acceleration but look ace and 18s look lost unless lowering etc

Will be ordering today....budget 600 with tires or close as

My car was specced with 18" monza shadows, the car is not lowered and the wheels do not in any way look lost.  I think you are confusing this with 17" which could look lost.  Hope this helps somewhat.

PS Am1w posted many wheel and tyre threads so may find something there, also there is the "non monza" wheel thread around too.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 11 February 2012, 08:50
I have rs6 in 17s now and defo look lost...I am only repeating what I read thats all.... Either way am set on v710s or very similar look
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Ess_Three on 11 February 2012, 10:32
What's the closest looking wheel to v710s? Am on a budget and want either 18 or 19...
Will be ordering today....budget 600 with tires or close as

I'll be honest...for £600 you are going to get cheap-ass, heavy as hell, bendy wheels...and crap tyres.
You'd be £600 alone for a decent set of tyres...and I very much doubt you'd get a set of wheels worth running for less than £1000.

Each to their own though...


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read 19s cause horrible ride and affect acceleration but look ace and 18s look lost unless lowering etc

The ride is slightly harder than on 18s...fair play.

As for slow acceleration?
How?
The rolling radius is no larger than the standard tyres, as the tyre profile is lower...
And if you duy decent wheels, the weight will be no more than the OEM wheels...so no weight penalty either.
So...no, not slower at all.
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: jonesltd on 11 February 2012, 11:05
Ok thanks....will keep looking on ebay etc for similar v710s as I like the look of them
Title: Re: Wheel spacers
Post by: Exonian on 11 February 2012, 14:01
Have a search around for Cades Bern alloy wheel on ebay and various online wheel places Mrs Jones, they're a similar style to the VMRs and are of decent quality and fit the GTD in 8x18''
Prices on them start at around £500 a set but you'd get them cheaper with a bit of haggling and searching around. Fit a decent set of 225/40/18s and you're away. As Mr S3 says, DON'T skimp on tyres, but don't be afraid of quality part worns that you can often pick up in the for sale section of forums for sensible money.