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General => General discussion => Topic started by: golf-sib on 07 February 2012, 19:36
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Been reading CKC (complete kit car) for a while now and been thinking about giving a kit car a go. Been a member on a few dedicated forums as well. But its got me thinking that I should really like to give it a go. Lotus 7's seem to common but I do like the replica cars such as the Lancia stratos. They are not cheap to make, given that but I been thinking whether to give something outrageous a go like a MR2 mk2) v8 conversion with a Lamborghini Murcielago kit on. I know some kits look disproportional in particular Ferrari's but Peugeot chassis seem to be becoming more popular for these than the mr2's for some Ferrari's to sort this out.
Whats people's views on these replica's they are a fraction of what the real car would cost but I'd like to know what people think.
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i like kit cars, but some replica kits i think are gay. whats the point in makeing an MR2 look like a ferrari it won't go, handel or sound like one in effect it's just a very chavved MR2
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Kit car massive yes just not a replica one :smiley:
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A/C Cobra love to give that ago, also a porker 356 roadster! :cool:
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Im a fan of kit cars, have built and rebuilt a few. Replicas can work but most look disproportioned as you say. Id reccommend doing lots of research bofore you jump in and spend any money. I wouldn't reccommend a '7' style car as most people find them pretty unusable once they finish building them.
I have been building this shell from scratch for around the last 9 years now, its not a quick project more a labour of love....
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2474/f40bodywork187medium.jpg)
Definately not going on an Mr2, it will be sat on an S3 Lotus esprit chassis so it should be quite capable once finished. Heres a link to my build thread if your interested.....
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/build-diaries/12159-f40-slow-but-worth-build.html (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/build-diaries/12159-f40-slow-but-worth-build.html)
Cheers
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I am (re)building a kit car http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=197495.0
It's a Mk1 Mini-Midas - effectively a glassfibre lightweight coupe based on Classic Mini Mechanicals which has been standing for several years. It's fun and frustrating at the same time - I keep finding old bodges and issues but I love it. And as it it isn't a daily driver I can take my time with it.
As for replicas, well some are great such as the better quality Cobras, the Hawk Stratos and the 356s, but some are just awful such as the Capri-based Aston (really!) and various TR7 and MR2 based "Ferraris". And as for the Covin 911 which was based on the Mk3 Escort... :sick:
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Im not sure why people feel the need to butcher mk2 MR2s. Standard ones are lovely and a looked after example will handle very well, on a par with the MX5 :smiley:
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:lipsrsealed:
I was thinking of this kit, yet to do more homework, a mr2 chassis murci and a 4.7l v8 or similar, something to deliver 400 ponies. V8's are some work but not too much to fit into the mr2, someone has managed to squeeze the audi 4.2l in there. Some good coilovers and brakes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyQX0hRaf-g&list=UU4X5q-Jj-JawjBZ4XpSo0ig&index=4&feature=plcp
http://www.extreme-sportscars.com/murci/index.html
Need to do some homework on the company, but no way do I want the 4pot engine in there, has to be v8 minimum. I've estimated about 20k to do it all, he says :grin: :lipsrsealed: But still need some more homework.
Will be following your work lads :afro:
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Also plastic fantastic, how you planning on doing the interior, I've seen a few lambo builds and interiors looked awful, this is the only thing that worries me as I want a better interior than the stock to look somewhat real. I've seen some good places that do the leather trim to dashes and there work is spot on, but how would you go around making the actual dash itself?
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Home brew cars yes, replica's mmmmmm nah.
Also make sure you do your homework before stumping up the readies.
http://scamsonline.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/supereplicas/
However if you build one of these, I have dibs on shotgun. :smiley:
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrintro
Looked into building one of these myself tbh :nerd:
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Home brew cars yes, replica's mmmmmm nah.
Also make sure you do your homework before stumping up the readies.
http://scamsonline.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/supereplicas/
However if you build one of these, I have dibs on shotgun. :smiley:
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrintro
Looked into building one of these myself tbh :nerd:
Yeah I noticed there's loads of scams, especially in the states an the one you pointed out in particular, even the utube videos use other companies hard work.
nom nom at the GTR, well I've got confirmation the audi 4.2 fits, shame it doesn't have many ponies as I like but 340ish bhp should be enough, the noise will make up for it. I wasn't a huge fan of replica's a while back, but I've slowly started to like them over the locusts everyone one seems to build, plus its a head turner, even if its not a real deal. Its like my mk4, when I got it no one had it, then everyone had it, mate got a cupra mk2, no one had it, now everyone and the undercover police have it. With certain kit cars people think they are classics or go "WTF is that", with a replica super car or similar they get excited... but people have different tastes and opinions, I've slowly started to appreciate replica's and fancy a go, sadly it comes with a huge price tag which means I need to be 100% sure I want to go ahead with it before making the decision and not regret it.
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Go for it fella, just dont rush any single part of the build and it will reward you in the end. I've recently been thinking of taking on a Countach Kit, purely for teen dream car purposes. :grin: :grin:
So maybe your your MR2 derived kit with an Audi lump may well not perform like the real thing, but to be honest apart from a track where CAN you unleash the full potential of a super car???
Good luck if you decide to take it on, plenty pics...
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Audi motor you say?
Why not an Audi rs6? :lipsrsealed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5-x2DQdt4
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Audi motor you say?
Why not an Audi rs6? :lipsrsealed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5-x2DQdt4
That's a v10 with a Turbo? Really expensive engine to her hold off plus fitting it would be hard I know the v8 just fits even with adapters etc, I know someone managed to get a v12 in with a lot of major work.
Only problem I'm facing is a good interior mould I'd also stick Audi clocks in over the outdated stuff.
Contacted DVLA to see what tax bracket it falls into, I know old 4.2 was bracket k at £240 a year, new 4.2 is bracket m at £430. Also once it's done I can put it down as a Lamborghini on the v5.
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Audi motor you say?
Why not an Audi rs6? :lipsrsealed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5-x2DQdt4
That's a v10 with a Turbo? Really expensive engine to her hold off plus fitting it would be hard I know the v8 just fits even with adapters etc, I know someone managed to get a v12 in with a lot of major work.
Only problem I'm facing is a good interior mould I'd also stick Audi clocks in over the outdated stuff.
Contacted DVLA to see what tax bracket it falls into, I know old 4.2 was bracket k at £240 a year, new 4.2 is bracket m at £430. Also once it's done I can put it down as a Lamborghini on the v5.
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id be keen for a GT40 replica kit :cool:
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Also plastic fantastic, how you planning on doing the interior, I've seen a few lambo builds and interiors looked awful, this is the only thing that worries me as I want a better interior than the stock to look somewhat real. I've seen some good places that do the leather trim to dashes and there work is spot on, but how would you go around making the actual dash itself?
The F40 interior is one of the easiest to replicate as it is pretty much a race car interior lots of carbonfibre and not alot else to worry about.
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Hatefull, hatefull things! Just take your 20K and buy a proper Lambo or Ferrari (or an NSX as this months Evo suggests :wink:). Sure you wont get much for your money but at least it will be real and will be worth something after you have had it a few years, unlike a kitcar that you build in your garage that have zero providence and is embarrasing to drive. Alternatively, go speak to Ultima as someone has mentioned, they build genuinely capable cars that can be built reasonably affordably if you set realistic goals (and it sounds like you are not going to do that judging from your analysis of the 340BHP the audi engine might get you).
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get an ultima, they're nice cars and they're quick! they're built at the back of my house so always hear them on test drives and so on, the owner has a corvette with the reg plate saying something like "chevy", not like i'm stalking or anything :rolleyes: :grin:
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Don't get me wrong I've seen ultima cars, blinding kit, but I want something people recognize, found a nice build thread though:
http://bristolkitcarclub.co.uk/smf2/index.php?topic=1791.45
I'd imagine the chassis should handle quite well, could sell the golf now, get a mr2 and start uprating it, from roll bars to bushes and coilovers, then the chassis should be good enough for the remainder of the work. they are good handling cars especially with the upgrades. Plus the v8/v6 conversions did work really well on them apparently. More homework, been looking at some EU body kits as they are a tad cheaper, but not to sure as to what kit to get.
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Plus the v8/v6 conversions did work really well on them apparently. More homework, been looking at some EU body kits as they are a tad cheaper, but not to sure as to what kit to get.
Yes, Im sure doubling the weight in the back of the car will definately work really well and it will handle like a dream.... NOT. How exactly do you shoehorn a V8 into the back of an MR2? Sounds either incredibly squashed in there (Northstar V8 made for FWD or similar?) or like your gonna have to add some bodgy frame to the back for a full on on longitudinal V8 and transaxle??? As for saving money on the bodywork, WTF! Spend as much money as you can on this and check out their work pre-paint prep before paying anything to anyone lol.
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8035/rearrr001.jpg)
^^^^ Says it all really!
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fisher fury's are lovely kit cars, with a bike engine are proper lightweight too :cool:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/freestlyer4/SNV30514.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/freestlyer4/SNV30531.jpg)
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^^+1
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Yeah thats a cheap american kit, I can't find the kit a chap used for his murci project in CKC, but he fitted a M-powered v12.
Well audi v8 4.2 is about 210kg, standard engines about 150kg?
The audi conversion is a popular one, see for yourself found two companies that do it in the UK.
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I typed out quite a ranty response to this, but then I hit alt + back arrow, sparing you from most of my disgust.
Just remember, you can roll a turd in glitter, but all you'll have is a turd coated in glitter and sh*t on your hands.
Don't do it.
Ultima: yes and respect.
Something so you can say it's got 'Lamborghini' on the V5. No. That's like saying 'my bird's got 32F tits' when it's obviously a terrible boob job. And we all know how that ended.
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Well I got some quotes back as the bodywork is a right pig to do, works out a prebuilt ultima is possibly a tad cheaper which has now got me thinking. If it was a replica of a rarer or more expensive car then it may be more worthwhile. Keep listing more suggestions though.
As well as opinions.
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http://www.dareuk.com/g4.php
Dont know what the quality is like but they are bloody gorgeous! Stick a heavily breathed on Duratec in there and it would be more fun than you would ever get from a shouty fake supercar.
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http://www.dareuk.com/g4.php
Dont know what the quality is like but they are bloody gorgeous! Stick a heavily breathed on Duratec in there and it would be more fun than you would ever get from a shouty fake supercar.
Looks too hair dresser for me, got the ultima priced up today around 38k fully built :cry: Yet road tax was only £250 a year on a chevy 6.3 v8 which I thought was good and insurance was similar to a 1.8t. Shame its out my price bracket.
http://www.completekitcar.co.uk/classifiedsover1.html
http://www.completekitcar.co.uk/classifieds5001-.html
Still do like replica's :lipsrsealed:
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Im a fan of kit cars, have built and rebuilt a few. Replicas can work but most look disproportioned as you say. Id reccommend doing lots of research bofore you jump in and spend any money. I wouldn't reccommend a '7' style car as most people find them pretty unusable once they finish building them.
I have been building this shell from scratch for around the last 9 years now, its not a quick project more a labour of love....
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2474/f40bodywork187medium.jpg)
Definately not going on an Mr2, it will be sat on an S3 Lotus esprit chassis so it should be quite capable once finished. Heres a link to my build thread if your interested.....
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/build-diaries/12159-f40-slow-but-worth-build.html (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/build-diaries/12159-f40-slow-but-worth-build.html)
Cheers
That picture reminds me of the strange clan clover i helped get back on the road.
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It looked the same.People said it was a kit car ,but it wasnt. Only 21 ever made .All fiberglass /light as hell.Sold it for £2000. I loved the sound of its flat 4 engine with 2 weber cars on it . :sad: Wonder how owns it now. :sad:
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fisher fury's are lovely kit cars, with a bike engine are proper lightweight too :cool:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/freestlyer4/SNV30514.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/freestlyer4/SNV30531.jpg)
An ex work colleague has one, in bright yellowy-green with black viper stripes. It uses a 2litre zetec lump with twin weber carbs. He tracks it with proper track tyres etc. Sounds like fun but it's a proper mid-life-crisis car :grin: