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Title: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Simpson on 06 February 2012, 20:42
I did the cambelt a few weeks ago on my 8v mk2 digi, i marked all the belts and refitted new belt. All seemed fine at the time but now the car has been pinking for a few weeks finally twigged why doh!

nyway i got my timing light out and its way off managed to get it a little better but i cant find thetdc mark as the dizzy hits the block as far as i can turn it, my only explanation is i have knocked it a tooth out leading to the dizzy being in the wrong place? any help would be appreciated,

I take it i should redo engine timing again or can i change rotor arm 180 degress? thanks in advance
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Post by: Wayne on 06 February 2012, 20:44
Better to redo the timing.
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Post by: molegti on 06 February 2012, 20:45
Id check the valve timing first
Title: Re: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Simpson on 06 February 2012, 21:09
will do hope it aint done any damage :smiley: i always struggle to get it exaclty right as when there is tension on the belt the tooth moves is is half a tooth out!
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Post by: danny_p on 06 February 2012, 22:54
you can move the plug leads round 1 position    to bodge and scarper it
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Post by: Simpson on 07 February 2012, 09:54
nice thought but that might get confusing, that is asssuming they are in the right order already, so will my dizzy be 180 out on the oil pump? or i guess it wouldnt run at all then! il recheck timing and then do dizzy timing again, thnks again
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Post by: Sam on 07 February 2012, 10:47
nice thought but that might get confusing, that is asssuming they are in the right order already, so will my dizzy be 180 out on the oil pump? or i guess it wouldnt run at all then! il recheck timing and then do dizzy timing again, thnks again

It wouldnt run at all I dont think. Just undo it all and re-fit belt. Not a big job and saves bodging it  :smiley:
Title: Re: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Simpson on 07 February 2012, 23:10
so took it to the garage today as havent got the time to sort it right now, bloody charged me 60 quid to f**k it up, they left the idle too high and the belt too tight and once i had adjusted it, it started to cut out and buck and jump when cold, they said the intermediate shaft was about 5 or 6 teeth out, so it must be close i am not sure why its running lumpy it was better before, dont you sometimes think you wish you had done it yourself!

i am going to check with my timing gun in the morning, cheers
Title: Re: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Sam on 07 February 2012, 23:33
so took it to the garage today as havent got the time to sort it right now, bloody charged me 60 quid to f**k it up, they left the idle too high and the belt too tight and once i had adjusted it, it started to cut out and buck and jump when cold, they said the intermediate shaft was about 5 or 6 teeth out, so it must be close i am not sure why its running lumpy it was better before, dont you sometimes think you wish you had done it yourself!

i am going to check with my timing gun in the morning, cheers

How come you paid if it runs like a bag of sh!t?
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Post by: dan7 on 08 February 2012, 21:08
There is a mark on the intermediate shaft.
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Post by: danny_p on 08 February 2012, 22:51
itermediate shaft timeing is somethign that dosent allways happen
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Post by: molegti on 09 February 2012, 08:00
Someone posted a video earlier this week. Might be worth checking that out.
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Post by: Sam on 09 February 2012, 13:58
Someone posted a video earlier this week. Might be worth checking that out.

It was him lol
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Post by: molegti on 09 February 2012, 14:42
 :grin:
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Post by: Simpson on 09 February 2012, 15:20
yeah i found it after i had been messing its gone back to the gar4age now as they f**ked it up they can sort it! i cant be bothered its too cold and have not got the time, thanks anyway :grin:
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Post by: Simpson on 09 February 2012, 15:23
so took it to the garage today as havent got the time to sort it right now, bloody charged me 60 quid to f**k it up, they left the idle too high and the belt too tight and once i had adjusted it, it started to cut out and buck and jump when cold, they said the intermediate shaft was about 5 or 6 teeth out, so it must be close i am not sure why its running lumpy it was better before, dont you sometimes think you wish you had done it yourself!

i am going to check with my timing gun in the morning, cheers

How come you paid if it runs like a bag of sh!t?

Because i drove it away fine they obviously could not be arsed to test drive it or unplug the blue coolant sensor! Its back there now so fingers crossed.  :smiley:
Title: Re: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Simpson on 09 February 2012, 17:53
Update got it back and he said he ended up tuning it by feel, it now drives ok but im sure it is still pinking unless its an exhaust manifold rattle, however. It cuts out once started cold and ildes fine once warmed up a few seconds.
He said the distributor was worn the weight on it or something so do i need a new dizzy to set the idle properly? or how do i check the blue coolant sensor or the knock sensor? Thanks
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Post by: Sam on 10 February 2012, 01:40
Update got it back and he said he ended up tuning it by feel, it now drives ok but im sure it is still pinking unless its an exhaust manifold rattle, however. It cuts out once started cold and ildes fine once warmed up a few seconds.
He said the distributor was worn the weight on it or something so do i need a new dizzy to set the idle properly? or how do i check the blue coolant sensor or the knock sensor? Thanks

It doesnt have a knock sensor and there is little point in checking the blue coolant sensor, you may as well replace it at they are about a 5er from vw. New dizzy isnt difficult either, just pop it off and the arm pops off too.
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Post by: molegti on 10 February 2012, 07:52
Digi does have a knock sensor rjs set up guide shows how to test it
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Post by: Simpson on 11 February 2012, 09:28
Yeah I change a dizzy no probs, blue sensor is about 12 quid plus VAT and knock sensor is definitely part of the Digi system, thanks for your help.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 11 February 2012, 11:24
Update got it back and he said he ended up tuning it by feel, it now drives ok but im sure it is still pinking unless its an exhaust manifold rattle, however. It cuts out once started cold and ildes fine once warmed up a few seconds.
He said the distributor was worn the weight on it or something so do i need a new dizzy to set the idle properly? or how do i check the blue coolant sensor or the knock sensor? Thanks

I think your garage owner's not a big fan of readin' and couldn't be ar$ed checking how to set the car up properly.
Title: Re: timing dizzy wont move far enough!
Post by: Simpson on 11 February 2012, 15:41
yeah I know its fecking annoying as i know i should have done it myself or taken it to a vw specialist, fecking old school mechanics!