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Title: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 05 February 2012, 14:49
Hello. Well my previous car was written off a few weeks ago :angry:so Im on the look out for another car. I have always liked the idea of owning a Golf GTI so it seems that now could be my chance to have one :smiley: Im looking to maybe get a Mk3 or a Mk4

I have about £1500 to spend. Basicaly Im looking at what I need to watch out for when buying on of these cars and also what model is prefered either the Mk3 or Mk4 on a purely mechanical point of view
(less likely to through up large repair bills)

Also what are the running costs like on both models? I dont mind getting my hands dirty with minor stuff like brakes/suspension and the likes. Also what are the engine like to work on by yourself?

What is the cost of replacement parts like?

What are the cost like for say Cam belt/Water pump/Pulleys and is it a big job i.e engine out?

Call me paranoid but my last car had a bit of a rep with the head gaskets going so what is the going rate to have this done on one of these cars?

Thanks for taking the time to read.

Kev
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: scott64 on 05 February 2012, 15:00
welcome to the group mate  :smiley: both good cars but i would go for the MK4....but then i am biased :grin:
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: Mr GTD on 05 February 2012, 16:52
Welcome...
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: Murrayedition35 on 05 February 2012, 17:14
Welcome mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: Deano2711 on 05 February 2012, 17:40
Mark 3 FTW.....easy to work on and cheaper to maintain than the Mark 4's. For your budget you could pull a good condition 16v whereas in the Mark 4 you would need to avoid the 2ltr 8v and look towards the 1.8 turbo which is better than the non turbo but either way you will just about find a decent one for your budget.
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 05 February 2012, 22:13
Mk3's are pretty long in the tooth now. Lucky to get one with under 100k on it.

Are the engines relatively easy to work on and inexpensive?
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: dixie180 on 06 February 2012, 14:02
Mk3's are pretty long in the tooth now. Lucky to get one with under 100k on it.

Are the engines relatively easy to work on and inexpensive?

To be honest m8 you'll be lucky to find a Mk4 with less than 100k on the clock for £1500,plus if you go for a Mk4 1.8T the insurance will be alot greater than a Mk3. :smiley:


Rob
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 06 February 2012, 14:50
Hmm. So say most of the Mk3 & Mk4 examples are over 100k and assuming that most examples would require a Timing belt/water pump/pulleys. How much are we talkning for this kind of work?

Also how much are we talking for a head gasket replacement?

What about a Mk5?

Thanks
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: dixie180 on 06 February 2012, 14:59
First thing would be to make sure the Timing belt/water pump/pulleys etc has already been done and evidence to back that up.That can easily be checked in service manual and receipts kept by the owner.Full service history is a must in my opinion as this demonstrates that the vehicle has been cared for.As for replacing the head gasket  :undecided:, not sure mate as i've never had to have this done on my vehicles.I'm only talking Mk3's here by the way :wink:.




Rob
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 06 February 2012, 15:13
Would this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Autel-MaxScan-GS500-OBD2-EOBD-Scanner-Diagnostic-Tool-/180811948763?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a193b62db

work on a Golfs Diagnostics?
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: dixie180 on 06 February 2012, 15:25
Best if you got a Vagcom mate,similar to this and ALOT cheaper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAG-USB-DIAGNOSTIC-CABLE-409-1-OBD2-II-LEAD-VAG-COM-/110819713441?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item19cd5ea1a1


Rob
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 06 February 2012, 15:35
Iv already got both I just wondered if I could use the scanner to save me carrying a laptop about
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: dixie180 on 06 February 2012, 15:44
Can't see anywhere it says it's ok for VW engines m8.If you wanna spend that much cash just to save carrying your laptop with you then go ahead.



Rob
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: Khare on 06 February 2012, 16:09
Mk4 you'd need the 1.8T engine for any sort of excitement, as the 2l 8v is underpowered for such a heavy car. Don't know what Mk4 prices are, but I doubt £1500 will get you a well cared for and serviced 1.8T.

Where as £1000ish will get you a pretty mint Mk3 GTI 16v which has a great engine, is cheap to run, easy to work on and cheap to repair, so you'd have money to spare. £1500 will probably get you a VR6 highline in very good nick to be honest, but running cost will be a lot compared to the GTI.
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 06 February 2012, 16:10
 :huh:Rob I already have both the scanner and the cable. I bought both a few years ago for my previous car. I wont need to spend any money mate. I just wondered if the scanner would work thats all. :smiley:
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: dixie180 on 06 February 2012, 16:24
Ok m8,thought u were after buying one  :laugh:.As i said i can't see where its compatible with VW's so not sure.



Rob
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: degaz28 on 09 February 2012, 18:59
alright
i'm the owner of a mk3, love the car never had any probs with the engine. i'm looking to sell it if your interested.
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: murraymint on 09 February 2012, 19:28
Mk3s ain't selling atm so you could pick yourself up a bargain, I've bin watching loads on eBay (16v's only) and there's some half desent ones going for around £400/£700 so if you have a good look you could find a nice on for fairly cheap and you'll have a load of money left from your budget for doing any work/modding you want to do.

As for mileage vws are known for going forever (if well maintained) so as long as its got good SH then I wou.dnt worry about the mileage too much
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 13 February 2012, 08:54
Been checking the Mk4 sales section. Really wish some of them where closer :sad:
Title: Re: Thinking of getting a Mk3 or 4 GTI. Advice welcome
Post by: kPATm on 13 February 2012, 09:31
Can a Double Din DVD player be fitted in a Mk4 without much hassle?. I have a nice Pioneer from my previous car that I would like to keep