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Title: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 03 February 2012, 17:06
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:

It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.

Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:


Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 03 February 2012, 17:10
lookers in 'boro are p!sstakers

seriously i went to look at an r32 and a gti last year and their part ex value on my van was a fooking insult.


be prepared to get 1000 phone calls of them asking if you have bought a car yet too. honestly they're pests.



pullman in durham are a much better dealership. not pushy to sell at all, just leave you to it and don't phone you up all the time.


p.s ill give you £301 for the BBS's if your chopping them in :grin:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: jakester on 03 February 2012, 17:16
You can try this to give you an idea (a back door to Glasses guide)

http://www.networkq.co.uk/buying/value-your-car/

(and I'll up the offer on the BBS's  :wink:)
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: carl1 on 03 February 2012, 17:22
Maybe 16k max i think, you may squeeze a extra 500 if you are ready to sign the deal their an then, all the best, im sure you can get more 15km tho.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 03 February 2012, 17:28
looker in 'boor are p!sstakers

seriously i went to look at an r32 and a gti last year and their part ex value on my van was a fooking insult.

be prepared to get 1000 phone calls of them asking if you have bought a car yet too. honestly they're pests.

pullman in durham are a much better dealership. not pushy to sell at all, just leave you to it and don't phone you up all the time.

p.s ill give you £301 for the BBS's if your chopping them in :grin:

Yep, proper piss take! Real amatuers especially the baldy salesmanager, didn't have a clue!

Did Pulman's give you a fair price on your PX then?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 03 February 2012, 17:34
You can try this to give you an idea (a back door to Glasses guide)

http://www.networkq.co.uk/buying/value-your-car/

(and I'll up the offer on the BBS's  :wink:)

Thanks, tried it and came back with this;


 
Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:  £17700
Average condition:  £16700
Below average condition:  £15100
 
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: jakester on 03 February 2012, 17:44
I understand that most dealers no longer use Glasses guide (is it CAP they now use?) but it gives you an indication of prices. 

Just checked on http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/prices/used/volkswagen/golf/gti-2009/43134/?yearplate=91 which gives a completely different price.

I have a 2009/59 5 door (DSG) with hardly any spec (21.5k miles) which (5 weeks ago) was up for £17980 if that helps any?

The dealer will make not only on your car (if buying new) but also on your trade-in.  They can't have it al ways - or can they?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: carl1 on 03 February 2012, 18:02
I find the best way is to see what price generally Vw are selling them for and then knock 2k- 2.5k off
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 03 February 2012, 18:27
looker in 'boor are p!sstakers

seriously i went to look at an r32 and a gti last year and their part ex value on my van was a fooking insult.

be prepared to get 1000 phone calls of them asking if you have bought a car yet too. honestly they're pests.

pullman in durham are a much better dealership. not pushy to sell at all, just leave you to it and don't phone you up all the time.

p.s ill give you £301 for the BBS's if your chopping them in :grin:

Yep, proper piss take! Real amatuers especially the baldy salesmanager, didn't have a clue!

Did Pulman's give you a fair price on your PX then?



in the end i sold private and went in with cash. that lookers just seemed to much like evans halshaw to me. really pushy, even though i said I'm just looking i got followed around by the salesman and he wouldn't leave us alone then got bombarded with phone calls.

when i went to pulman i just said i like the car and he gave me the keys then left me alone for half an hour to play around with it.

i bought the car and got £1300 off the screen price with free service for 3 years so didn't do badly.

i think pulman would be more likely to do you a deal anyway
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: dubber36 on 03 February 2012, 18:28
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K

Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R.


So they offered you £16k against the full price of an R then?

To be fair, they could buy "your" car in the trade for less than £16k, but as it stands, they're not discounting the new car at all. You need to work out how much you are prepared to pay to change, then start haggling.

However if you go to a dealer with a pricy car to px, they have to consider that they will not get all the money for the new car until they have sold yours. The best deals are always done with either an old banger or no px. Unless you are prepared to sell your car privately and buy an old £500 banger to ride around in in the mean time, I'm afraid most dealers will pull your pants down.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: evo1986 on 03 February 2012, 18:44
I find the best way is to see what price generally Vw are selling them for and then knock 2k- 2.5k off

Spot on.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 03 February 2012, 18:55
So they offered you £16k against the full price of an R then?

Nope £15k, TBH they didn't seem interested, he gave me a price and that was it, no haggling or anything. Didn't even want to discuss the Golf R, Finance etc. He was more excited about my car chirping when you un/locked the car and pressed it about 10 times. He even went round the showroom to show me my car was in better condition than the brand new one's in the showroom!

To be fair, they could buy "your" car in the trade for less than £16k, but as it stands, they're not discounting the new car at all. You need to work out how much you are prepared to pay to change, then start haggling.

However if you go to a dealer with a pricy car to px, they have to consider that they will not get all the money for the new car until they have sold yours. The best deals are always done with either an old banger or no px. Unless you are prepared to sell your car privately and buy an old £500 banger to ride around in in the mean time, I'm afraid most dealers will pull your pants down.


Your not wrong there!, i'm not desperate enough to start throwing cash away, if i can get a good deal i'll buy one, if not i'll just keep mine.
See what Pulman's bring tomorrow! :smiley:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: GolfTi on 03 February 2012, 19:11
If you're prepared to play the waiting game they'll probably get back to you over the next few weeks.
They have their targets to meet.

I think they have another 700 to 1k to play with.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: jakester on 03 February 2012, 19:45
So, does that mean the Millteks, LED lights and wheels are up for grabs (never wanting to miss out on a bargain!)  :grin:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 03 February 2012, 19:58
So, does that mean the Millteks, LED lights and wheels are up for grabs (never wanting to miss out on a bargain!)  :grin:


Maybe, i'll know more in the next couple of days. :wink:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: TurboTrev on 03 February 2012, 20:20
Was at Lookers 'Boro a couple of weeks ago to get a part-ex price against the ED35 demo.  However, after waiting over half an hour for the salesman to come back from the sales manager's office with a price, I gave up, walked out and drove off.  :angry:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: gizzywizzy on 03 February 2012, 21:24
Bunch of tosses at Lookers which is why I took myself off to Des Winks in Scarborough where I was treated pretty well to be honest.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 03 February 2012, 21:43
So, does that mean the Millteks, LED lights and wheels are up for grabs (never wanting to miss out on a bargain!)  :grin:


Maybe, i'll know more in the next couple of days. :wink:

i will take the ITG intake if its for sale. only live a few miles from you  :wink:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Exonian on 04 February 2012, 05:57
I like ex-demo cars personally, when the car isn't a newly released model (which the mk6 isn't any more) they tend to just be sales managers company cars so don't lead too bad a life, depending on the dealer in question.
You normally get a reasonable deal for them once they've been hanging around a while and I notice that a lot of R demo cars are hanging around quite a long time so there must be deals to be had on these with a bit of patience and persistance.
I did consider an R when I was looking around last summer, but when it came to it, apart from a few year old ones that appeared for sale at around £23k (and got quickly snapped up) most were nearly £30k which was darn near double the trade value of an average mileage 2009 GTI. So thinking about it in clear terms, you could in theory go to an auction and pick up two 2 year old GTIs for less than the price of a new R. Is the R that much better than a GTI?
I'd wait for the run out model deals in a year's time if you're not too fussy on spec.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 13:16
Just a little update, been to Pullman's @ Durham today and what a difference, really impressed with them.

Thrashed out a deal on a new Golf R , no piss take on PX value and gave me free goodies and discount off RRP.

SO have a few parts for sale if anyone's interested  :wink: (will put them in the classified section shortly)




Oh also got a call from Lookers VW saying they'd give me £15,600 PX instead of £15,000 if i'd buy now! :sick:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Snoopy on 04 February 2012, 13:18
There probably looking at yours as a modified car so knocking the price down
They are also prob thinking of delivery time so knocking the price down again as yours will be worth X amount less in X months time.

EDIT
Glad you got a deal, must say i have been impressed with Pulman Durham sales in the past. I delt with a guy there called John Wade iirc he was a bit of a car nut.
Whats the delivery time scale for your R?
Must admit i fancy a fully loaded Ed35 but am scared to even ask about cost to change.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 13:34

They are also prob thinking of delivery time so knocking the price down again as yours will be worth X amount less in X months time.
There's a £1500 difference in PX value if i hand my GTI over by the end of the month or if i hand it over when the R arrives in 4 months time(ish).



Whats the delivery time scale for your R?
The salesman is saying around 4months for a factory order.

Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 04 February 2012, 15:17

They are also prob thinking of delivery time so knocking the price down again as yours will be worth X amount less in X months time.
There's a £1500 difference in PX value if i hand my GTI over by the end of the month or if i hand it over when the R arrives in 4 months time(ish).



Whats the delivery time scale for your R?
The salesman is saying around 4months for a factory order.



nice one. i find pulman durham the best VW dealership. you can get a nice cup of coffee there too!

PM me a price for the ITG please

what else you got to sell?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 15:36

nice one. i find pulman durham the best VW dealership. you can get a nice cup of coffee there too!

PM me a price for the ITG please

what else you got to sell?

PM Sent about the ITG intake.

Also ive got a cat back Non-res Miltek exhaust, Oem VW bluetooth kit(fitted by darren), private plate(VE59 DUB) and maybe the CK's(not sure yet!)
Talking about wheels i need some monzas to put the car back to standard if someone's got any lying around! :grin:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Jimmymature on 04 February 2012, 16:03

Congrats on the R order mate, would be my choice too.

Keep those BBS if they fit on the R, it will look the nuts.



Jim
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Exonian on 04 February 2012, 16:06
What colour have you gone for Sunday?
And spec?
Are there no pre built ones near to your spec?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 16:27
What colour have you gone for Sunday?
And spec?
Are there no pre built ones near to your spec?

Gone for Rising blue, manual, 19" tallawotsits, colour MFD, Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lights.


Couldn't decide at first between rising blue with silver wheels or reflex silver with black talladega's  :undecided:

It's a factory order so a 4month wait(Hopefully!)
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Exonian on 04 February 2012, 16:46
What colour have you gone for Sunday?
And spec?
Are there no pre built ones near to your spec?

Gone for Rising blue, manual, 19" tallawotsits, colour MFD, Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lights.


Couldn't decide at first between rising blue with silver wheels or reflex silver with black talladega's  :undecided:

It's a factory order so a 4month wait(Hopefully!)
:cool: Spot on spec and colour. You can always paint the wheels at a later date!
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 17:13

Gone for Rising blue, manual, 19" tallawotsits, colour MFD, Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lights.


Blimey. Manual? Don't you know it will be 0.00000001 seconds slower 0-60?  :evil:

Lovely spec!  :grin:

(How much do you want for your Milltek?)
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 17:24

Gone for Rising blue, manual, 19" tallawotsits, colour MFD, Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lights.


Blimey. Manual? Don't you know it will be 0.00000001 seconds slower 0-60?  :evil:

Lovely spec!  :grin:

(How much do you want for your Milltek?)



Don't like DSG (Run's and hides before the DSG lovers come out in force AGAIN! ) but that's just my opinion. :smiley:

I'll take £250 from a forum member for the milltek OR a set of wheels! :laugh:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 February 2012, 17:44

I'll take £250 from a forum member for the milltek OR a set of wheels! :laugh:

It's a non-res cat back...what sized tail pipes?  :smiley:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 04 February 2012, 17:57

I'll take £250 from a forum member for the milltek OR a set of wheels! :laugh:

It's a non-res cat back...what sized tail pipes?  :smiley:

I'm almost sure they're 100mm but will check later.

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu237/k33ste/007-1.jpg)
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: TurboTrev on 04 February 2012, 18:28
Mate drove the rising blue one that Lookers 'Boro have and wasn't impressed - he though it was slow and lacked grunt (he has a stage 1 MK5 GTI) - I thought it might just be down to the engine being new and tight?

How did you feel the R went compared with your MK6 GTI?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Mr GTD on 04 February 2012, 18:56
Quote
Talking about wheels i need some monzas to put the car back to standard if someone's got any lying around! :grin:

Take a look at these, Sunday...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180809563167?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1097wt_922
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 04 February 2012, 19:26

nice one. i find pulman durham the best VW dealership. you can get a nice cup of coffee there too!

PM me a price for the ITG please

what else you got to sell?

PM Sent about the ITG intake.

Also ive got a cat back Non-res Miltek exhaust, Oem VW bluetooth kit(fitted by darren), private plate(VE59 DUB) and maybe the CK's(not sure yet!)
Talking about wheels i need some monzas to put the car back to standard if someone's got any lying around! :grin:

cheers. PM'd back :cool:


how difficult is it to fit the bluetooth?

cheers
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 05 February 2012, 09:21
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2012, 10:08
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:
I think they'd have had to carry me out of the showroom on a stretcher with an oxygen tank attached to me to sign up for a deal like that.
''Here's a perfectly good less than two year old overpriced shopping car and twenty grand sir, now please can I have one of those shiny new Golf things"

Fair play to you, but the more I think about it the less I have in common with modern Volkswagen drivers. I'm off to find a Kia forum.
Pretty cars those Kias...
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Jimmymature on 05 February 2012, 10:37
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:

£38k for a Golf.....


Great car though.



Jim
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 05 February 2012, 11:10
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:

£38k for a Golf.....

Great car though.

Jim
Yes Jim, it is a bit steep, but a great car by all accounts. Can't wait to get it - dealer estimates delivery July/Aug. Apparently the DSG box is in short supply currently.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 05 February 2012, 11:16
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:

£38k for a Golf.....

Great car though.
Jim
Jim, in case your wondering why I say "great car by all accounts" when I've just bought one. My dealer couldn't find me one to test drive - so to check out the DSG and whether it suited me or not the only similar car they had with DSG was a GTD, so I tried it out in that. I love my GTI so I don't think I really needed to test drive the R to know I'm going to love that too. The DSG box is awesome. [This is coming from a lifelong manual driver]
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: gizzywizzy on 05 February 2012, 11:59
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: R32UK on 05 February 2012, 12:43
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Buck on 05 February 2012, 13:24
Sunday

New R sounds fantastic - Rising Blue looks stunning - good choice

Will you be selling your LED rears? If so, what price would you put on them?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: dubber36 on 05 February 2012, 14:49
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: R32UK on 05 February 2012, 15:30
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Jimmymature on 05 February 2012, 15:42
Very nice but I don't like that many miles on a car.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: carl1 on 05 February 2012, 16:51
I woudn't spend over 30k on a golf but fair play to you guys if you can afford it.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: dubber36 on 05 February 2012, 18:57
Very nice but I don't like that many miles on a car.

36,000? It's hardly worn out.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: R32UK on 05 February 2012, 23:54
Very nice but I don't like that many miles on a car.

36,000? It's hardly worn out.

50K and its just loosening up :evil:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 06 February 2012, 10:25
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: jakester on 06 February 2012, 10:37
The R sounds cracking.  All down to personal choice.  I once pitched a similar scenario to a family member some 20 years ago.

"If you had £7k to spend would you buy a 7 year old BMW 325i sport (E30 back then) or a 2 year old Rover?"  Her answer was the latter.

It's your money and should return trouble free motoring linked to some good grin factor and also peace of mind for the 3 days of the year when the snow falls  :grin: (my S4 also came into its own)

Congrats with the deal - goes to show it's always worth shopping around and no dealer has the monopoly when selling cars (I bet they're kicking themselves now).  You need to take it to the 1st dealer for it's 1st service (with a smug look on your face)

Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Mr GTD on 06 February 2012, 10:54
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]

Cracking car mate, good choice in extras....look forward to te pics when she arrives :wink:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: R32UK on 06 February 2012, 11:49
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]

Fair play pal... it a great car none the less  :cool: :cool:

Look forward to seeing the pics once you have it!


Although I would have struggled to leave the showroom after seeing this  :drool: :drool: :drool:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3531479.htm
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 06 February 2012, 11:56
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]

Cracking car mate, good choice in extras....look forward to te pics when she arrives :wink:
Thanks Mr GTD, I'm looking forward to it as well. Dealer reckons July/August/Sept, can't be sure yet. Btw, because they didn't have an R with DSG for me to test drive I tried it out in a GTD, very impressive car, with the low down torque it really picks up well.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 06 February 2012, 11:58
The R sounds cracking.  All down to personal choice.  I once pitched a similar scenario to a family member some 20 years ago.

"If you had £7k to spend would you buy a 7 year old BMW 325i sport (E30 back then) or a 2 year old Rover?"  Her answer was the latter.

It's your money and should return trouble free motoring linked to some good grin factor and also peace of mind for the 3 days of the year when the snow falls  :grin: (my S4 also came into its own)

Congrats with the deal - goes to show it's always worth shopping around and no dealer has the monopoly when selling cars (I bet they're kicking themselves now).  You need to take it to the 1st dealer for it's 1st service (with a smug look on your face)
At those prices think I'd still go for the 325i over the Rover though  :grin:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Mr GTD on 06 February 2012, 12:02
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]

Cracking car mate, good choice in extras....look forward to te pics when she arrives :wink:
Thanks Mr GTD, I'm looking forward to it as well. Dealer reckons July/August/Sept, can't be sure yet. Btw, because they didn't have an R with DSG for me to test drive I tried it out in a GTD, very impressive car, with the low down torque it really picks up well.

Hopefully yours will arrive July/aug time just so you get some good weather....saying that tho sept weather hasn't been all bad :wink:...
I've been in touch with my dealer who has confirmed this morning that my car has been built and is currently being shipped... :smiley: beginning of march, hopefully for pick up....
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Nutkins on 06 February 2012, 12:50
Great spec. Although why not get the RCD510 instead an get the RNS on EBay. Save yourself around 1k! Takes about 5 mins to fit!
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: wyliecoyote on 06 February 2012, 13:21
My god  :shocked: I know the R is supposed to be a damn fine car but as it only has Awd and a higher top speed over the GTI I could never justify spending nearly £40 grand on a VW, and to be honest I wouldn't want to it is just VW piss taking yet again.

Agree.... I know there is a certain exictement to buying a new car... but most of you guy have owned your GTI's from new. I think is would be much more fun to go down the a' la hurdy route and spend the extra £20k you all seem to have lying around on upgrades and modding your GTI's to blow the R away  :lipsrsealed: :evil:

I know that it's relative and all that, but if I had to put £20k on top of a very nicely speced, low mileage GTI, to get another new, but very similar car, it wouldn't happen.

Have you seen what that £20k would buy you on the used market?

There is massive list of great cars for around the £20k mark.... for me I would add a few pennies and get this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3056837.htm
I've looked at all the used car options in the £30-40k bracket, an M3 was one of them, but the running costs are much higher than an R because it's a higher performance car. [more insurance, higher VED, lower mpg, higher servicing costs etc] and you will be out of warranty. I wanted something with very good performance and 4wd, but relatively affordable running costs and the peace of mind of 3 years warranty. So I've put my money into the car instead of the running cost. I've specced it up a bit as it will be the last new car I'll be buying for quite some time.
Gone for 3 door DSG, 19" Talladega's, rising blue, RNS510 with 6CD changer and dynaudio, ACC, cruise, rear view camera, colour MFD, lux pack and storage pack. My dealer also included 3 years gap insurance and lifeshine in the price [Worth around £800]

Well said. I'm sure you'll enjoy the R when it arrives it's one of the best Q cars out there - the Gti's seem to get all the unwanted attentions (unless you're a Manchester traffic cop :evil:).

Not really sure why most of the 'R' threads always seem to concentrate on the price and what you could buy second hand with the same money. I haven't regretted spending out on mine and with the numbers that have been sold it's going to hold it's value pretty well I think.... :smiley:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Edi35 on 06 February 2012, 13:56
I have had a good look round at the 30-40k options but decided that new is for me and that unless you have 50k to spend the differences are not worth it. I would not pay more than for 30k for a Golf either (at least this time round)  :shocked:. The R is a great car but the biggest problem with it is the GTI/ED35 which offers 95% of what the R can as there is not a big enough difference between them (unless you are going to tune it to 350+  :evil:) Anyway good luck with R I am sure you will be very pleased with it  :smiley:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: pottinger on 06 February 2012, 16:36
I am sure the R is a fantastic car and I am sure RickS will enjoy it immensely.

There is soo much argument for both sides of this, me personally having only just
purchased a 2011 GTI DSG at 21k and probably v similar to RickS trade in so i
feel very  :smug: and maybe wouldnt have got the car if people didnt trade them in  :grin:
like RickS will.

Is the R worth 20k on top, couldnt tell you whatsoever as I havent driven one  :smiley:

Driving aside and if asked the question (pre-GTI purchase) would I buy a golf for 35-40k
the answer would be no, i dont even think I would pay 30k for any golf, post-GTI purchase
it would still be no but with a very big hint of uncertainty in the no !!

Either way RickS has bought a very fine car regardless and i hope he enjoys it and I shall buy it
end of next year for 20k  :rolleyes: :grin: :cool: :drool: :kiss:

ta
potts
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 06 February 2012, 16:44
Sunday

New R sounds fantastic - Rising Blue looks stunning - good choice

Will you be selling your LED rears? If so, what price would you put on them?

No Buck sorry mate, they're the only mod that's staying on the car when it get's PX'd.

Still need to find a RCD310 and wheels to replace the sat nav and CK's which i'm keeping . :cry:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: jakester on 06 February 2012, 17:46
I have an RCD 310.  Just replaced it with an aftermarket unit (ebay special.)  I'll do you a deal if you throw in the LED's as p/x  :wink: (you know you want to - and I'll send you my OEM originals to replace them with.)
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Buck on 06 February 2012, 17:58
Sunday

New R sounds fantastic - Rising Blue looks stunning - good choice

Will you be selling your LED rears? If so, what price would you put on them?

No Buck sorry mate, they're the only mod that's staying on the car when it get's PX'd.

Still need to find a RCD310 and wheels to replace the sat nav and CK's which i'm keeping . :cry:

No worries - can't help you with the RCD or wheels - sorry!
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 06 February 2012, 18:08

No worries - can't help you with the RCD or wheels - sorry!

I don't think i'll have a problem with the RCD310 (go for around £50 on ebay), it's the wheels i'm going to have a problem with. May have to go down the replica route i think.  :evil:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Mr GTD on 06 February 2012, 18:12
Have a look Sunday....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-VW-18-Monza-Wheels-set-off-Golf-MK6-GTI-/180809563167?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6142286578616710768#ht_2454wt_219
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 06 February 2012, 18:15
PM sent about the ITG mate. i will take it - just let me know when i can pick it up :evil:

yeah replaicas are cheap enough

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-GTi-MONZA-Alloy-Wheels-x4-GOLF-CADDY-T4-PASSAT-/200688091921?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item2eb9f14311#ht_2712wt_1040



what size do your wheels need to be? could you fit 17's or do they need to be 18's? theres usually a lot of 17" monza for sale on ebay
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 06 February 2012, 18:34
PM sent about the ITG mate. i will take it - just let me know when i can pick it up :evil:

yeah replaicas are cheap enough

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-GTi-MONZA-Alloy-Wheels-x4-GOLF-CADDY-T4-PASSAT-/200688091921?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item2eb9f14311#ht_2712wt_1040



what size do your wheels need to be? could you fit 17's or do they need to be 18's? theres usually a lot of 17" monza for sale on ebay


PM recieved, thanks Ken.

They do need to be 18" shadows as i got a lot better PX price if i put the car back to how i bought it but those replicas look spot on as they're the first Monza Shadows reps i've seen with a 7.5 rim width, might ask them if they've got any better pics thou.
 
I need some good one's that dont look too different from the genuine one's TBH.


There are loads of Golf R reps kicking about and i don't think they would tell the difference when on the car so might ask the dealer about putting R reps on and see what they say.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 06 February 2012, 22:20
I have had a good look round at the 30-40k options but decided that new is for me and that unless you have 50k to spend the differences are not worth it. I would not pay more than for 30k for a Golf either (at least this time round)  :shocked:. The R is a great car but the biggest problem with it is the GTI/ED35 which offers 95% of what the R can as there is not a big enough difference between them (unless you are going to tune it to 350+  :evil:) Anyway good luck with R I am sure you will be very pleased with it  :smiley:

Apart from the power difference the biggest advantage the R has over the GTI/ED35 is the 4wd system.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: RickS on 06 February 2012, 22:23
I am sure the R is a fantastic car and I am sure RickS will enjoy it immensely.

There is soo much argument for both sides of this, me personally having only just
purchased a 2011 GTI DSG at 21k and probably v similar to RickS trade in so i
feel very  :smug: and maybe wouldnt have got the car if people didnt trade them in  :grin:
like RickS will.

Is the R worth 20k on top, couldnt tell you whatsoever as I havent driven one  :smiley:

Driving aside and if asked the question (pre-GTI purchase) would I buy a golf for 35-40k
the answer would be no, i dont even think I would pay 30k for any golf, post-GTI purchase
it would still be no but with a very big hint of uncertainty in the no !!

Either way RickS has bought a very fine car regardless and i hope he enjoys it and I shall buy it
end of next year for 20k   :rolleyes: :grin: :cool: :drool: :kiss:

ta
potts
:grin: Don't call me I'll call you Potts
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: pottinger on 06 February 2012, 23:34
I am sure the R is a fantastic car and I am sure RickS will enjoy it immensely.

There is soo much argument for both sides of this, me personally having only just
purchased a 2011 GTI DSG at 21k and probably v similar to RickS trade in so i
feel very  :smug: and maybe wouldnt have got the car if people didnt trade them in  :grin:
like RickS will.

Is the R worth 20k on top, couldnt tell you whatsoever as I havent driven one  :smiley:

Driving aside and if asked the question (pre-GTI purchase) would I buy a golf for 35-40k
the answer would be no, i dont even think I would pay 30k for any golf, post-GTI purchase
it would still be no but with a very big hint of uncertainty in the no !!

Either way RickS has bought a very fine car regardless and i hope he enjoys it and I shall buy it
end of next year for 20k   :rolleyes: :grin: :cool: :drool: :kiss:

ta
potts
:grin: Don't call me I'll call you Potts
:grin: 07790 614918

Only jokin, enjoy it fella. Potts
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: dubber36 on 07 February 2012, 08:17

They do need to be 18" shadows as i got a lot better PX price if i put the car back to how i bought it but those replicas look spot on as they're the first Monza Shadows reps i've seen with a 7.5 rim width, might ask them if they've got any better pics thou.
 
I need some good one's that dont look too different from the genuine one's TBH.

To be fair, most reps will look good when they are brand new, it's when they are a couple of months old that they'll start to look shabby. You'll be long gone by then.  :evil:

I pitty the new owner tho'.  :sad:

No I don't. Feck it, we'd all do the same  :evil:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: Snoopy on 07 February 2012, 09:59
Just stick reps on it, you won't be the first to have done it dealers will never tell the difference
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: chrissyr32 on 09 February 2012, 14:45
Just a little update, been to Pullman's @ Durham today and what a difference, really impressed with them.

Thrashed out a deal on a new Golf R , no piss take on PX value and gave me free goodies and discount off RRP.

SO have a few parts for sale if anyone's interested  :wink: (will put them in the classified section shortly)




Oh also got a call from Lookers VW saying they'd give me £15,600 PX instead of £15,000 if i'd buy now! :sick:


Hi Sunday Driver...

Im a long time lurker ron this forum....used to have various fast Golfs years ago..before i went to the darkside..Audi...still call in now and then for the crack..

Anyway..did Pulman take your Golf out for a test drive before offering you part x?...The reason i ask is..i traded in a E46 M3 there for a new R32 years ago..and they insisted on taking the M3 out to check for mechaioncal defects..only garage thats ever done that!!!

They claim it was because someone traded in a A4 cabby...walked away with new car they then found out full roof mechanism was shagged...cost them 7 k to renew!!!!


Always a pleasure to deal with though and got good prices on the two deals ive done with them over the years!!!!

Chrissy
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: sundaydriver on 09 February 2012, 16:25
Yes really pleased with the deal i got from them and the with the service (up to now anyway!) :smiley:
and no the salesman didn't take it out for a test drive, just had a good look round it.


I'm also surprised he hasn't ran me yet to ask when i'm bringing in the MK6 that they've taken in as PX.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 09 February 2012, 17:11
i wish they would hurry up cos i can't wait to fit that ITG! :laugh:
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: mkviken on 09 February 2012, 17:13
 :laugh: good point.
Title: Re: PX Value at dealers
Post by: R32DXT on 12 February 2012, 23:35
So went to Lookers VW at middlesbrough today to try and do a deal on a new Golf R, wanted to trade in my 59 plate GTI (12,000 miles, absolutely mint etc) and got offered £15K and £300 extra if i left the BBS CK's on!! :shocked: :shocked:
It's hard to gauge a PX value, has anyone any idea's on what price i should be looking for.
Oh he also said he'd knock a grand off the RRP on the Golf R. :undecided:
Going to try Pulman VW @ Durham tomorrow and see what they say.
I actually ordered a new R yesterday [Price with my spec added £38,134], traded in my March 10 GTI with 7500 miles on clock [spec as per sig]. After a lengthy discussion and some bartering I ended up with £18,134 for the GTI, this is allowing for 6 months before delivery of the R, so actually I got the equivalent of around £19,500. No discount on the R though, but I was happy with the deal overall. It's not so much what you get for your car but what the deal costs you overall, yours is a bit older than mine and has more mileage, but £15K is taking the p***  :shocked:

The new R is a lovely car, Its the best car I've ever had for sure. I'm sure you'll love it regardless of how much you spent.