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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: ScottA on 03 February 2012, 10:28
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Gutted !!!!!!! My local Shell (and the only one anywhere near by) has changed to a BP overnight :cry: :cry: :cry:
So when my GTI arrives, I have the choice of BP Ultimate or Tesco Momentum 99. I believe Tesco is better as it's 99 RON vs BP'S 97 RON, although I f**king hate Tesco !! I don't think it's Tesco's fuel I believe they buy it from someone else, so I guess that makes it ok. Interested to know what people would use if they had the choice of BP Ultimate or Tesco 99 ?
The car is going to be mapped.
Why oh why has Shell changed to BP .. gutted! :embarassed:
Cheers,
Scott
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My local Shell station has changed too but not a company I have seen before. Luckily there is another Shell nearby so it won't be to much of a problem. However I share your concerns. I have never put Tesco fuel in so I can't comment but I wouldn't on principle as I hate Tesco.
I have used BP ultimate in my GTI and it does go just as well but the fuel consumption drops by about 3 mpg when I do. I always try and use V-Power but on a European trip I did last year I didn't always have that choice and tried various 98 octan rated petrol and all had no effect on performance but all were worse on mpg. Therefore I can say that Shell suits the GTI better than others from my experience.
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I've heard that Tesco Momentum has additives in it to bring it up to the high RON. I've spoke to a number of people such as REVO and Superchips and they are of the View BP Ultimate is better than Momentum.
I use Ultimate but will use Shell V-Power too.
Jim
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Tesco 99 proved to be the better/best fuel when tested iirc... cannot remember the source though.
I wouldnt touch Ultimate. Although someone who works with oil/refinery stated that momentum fuel is exactly the same as V-power as it comes from the same refinery.
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Tesco ftw, very good fuel :smiley:
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Tesco 99 proved to be the better/best fuel when tested iirc... cannot remember the source though.
I wouldnt touch Ultimate. Although someone who works with oil/refinery stated that momentum fuel is exactly the same as V-power as it comes from the same refinery.
Why wouldn't you touch Ultimate? I use it every fill up and have done over a year with no issues.
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Why wouldn't you touch Ultimate? I use it every fill up and have done over a year with no issues.
BP petrol stations are always topdollar, And the Ultimate is like 10p dearer then Tesco 99 and its just not as good 98 aint it?
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Jeez, mine just runs on 95 RON, has from the day I picked it up.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI&feature=related
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Jeez, mine just runs on 95 RON, has from the day I picked it up.
Yea the MK5 engine used to need Super Unleaded but the MK6 is fine on standard unleaded.
That's what assumed from the fuel flap as it says Min 95 RON whereas the MK5 said Min 98 RON
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQghB4asSnI&feature=related
Shell it is then.......
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R32UK is referring to a test conducted by Thorney Motorsport I believe. Thorney are big tuners when it comes to VXR's and the like so have a rough idea about what they are doing.
And yes, their test found that (at the time) Tesco Momentum was the best fuel.
The car they used was an E46 M3 and they found that between normal fuel and Tesco Momentum, the car varied in power by up to 36hp (IIRC).
As for me, I just use Sainsbury's Fuel. I find Nectar is the best fuel by far :grin:
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Jeez, mine just runs on 95 RON, has from the day I picked it up.
Mine too, runs fine.
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Normally use Shell VPower or Tesco momentum.
The odd time I've had to use standard 95 I've noticed a drop in power,smoothness and economy.
Shell Racing (100 RON) if ever you're in the Fatherland :tongue:
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R32UK is referring to a test conducted by Thorney Motorsport I believe. Thorney are big tuners when it comes to VXR's and the like so have a rough idea about what they are doing.
And yes, their test found that (at the time) Tesco Momentum was the best fuel.
The car they used was an E46 M3 and they found that between normal fuel and Tesco Momentum, the car varied in power by up to 36hp (IIRC).
As for me, I just use Sainsbury's Fuel. I find Nectar is the best fuel by far :grin:
Remember, BP do Nectar, I get double points when I fill up with BP Ultimate.
Got this mail from them today
"You've qualified to stay in the BP Ultimate Club!"
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I tend to fill up with whatever super unleaded is cheapest near to me.
I have put the occasional tank of normal unleaded in and it hasn't made the slightest difference to economy or anything else. And this was on an 'optimised' engine setting.
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I use Tesco Momentum as 1st Choice, Shell V Power as 2nd ... I've always been very impressed with Tesco Momentum ... and the exhaust note always sounds better with this IMHO :evil:
It usually comes out better in tests than the others (inc Shell Vpower) and I heard Superchips had a remap setting just for Tesco 99 (now Momentum). It added + 20bhp over standard 95 RON fuel to an RS Focus in a test below.
More info here (been discussed many times before !!) :-
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results_Update.shtml
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/ford/focus-rs/focus-rs-fuel-testing.shtml
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results.shtml
http://www.superchips.co.uk/newspage/40
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=128019.0
http://www.r32oc.com/general-chat/18962-bp-ultimate-v-power.html
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I've heard that Tesco Momentum has additives in it to bring it up to the high RON. I've spoke to a number of people such as REVO and Superchips and they are of the View BP Ultimate is better than Momentum.
Not sure who you spoke to but the general advice from tuning companies (Superchips and REVO) are to go with Shell V Power OR Tesco Momentum (as they are both high 99 RON).
Here's a quote from REVO :-
"This conversion must be used with a minimum of 97 ron Super unleaded fuel - we strongly recommend Shell V Power or Tesco Momentum 98/99 - we can set up to suit 95 ron std unleaded but this will massivly effect the power output and potential reliability"
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I've heard that Tesco Momentum has additives in it to bring it up to the high RON. I've spoke to a number of people such as REVO and Superchips and they are of the View BP Ultimate is better than Momentum.
Not sure who you spoke to but the general advice from tuning companies (Superchips and REVO) are to go with Shell V Power OR Tesco Momentum (as they are both high 99 RON).
Here's a quote from REVO :-
"This conversion must be used with a minimum of 97 ron Super unleaded fuel - we strongly recommend Shell V Power or Tesco Momentum 98/99 - we can set up to suit 95 ron std unleaded but this will massivly effect the power output and potential reliability"
I spoke to the sales Manager at REVO, and it was him that told me that Momentum is a 95 RON fuel with aditives that brings it up to 98/99. But the downside is the additives breakdown reducing the true RON.
Now, I'm no expert in this field, I use BP Ultimate as the car seems plenty quick, I get double points on my Nectar card and I get double points from my Amex Nectar Credit Card.
Jim
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Now, I'm no expert in this field, I use BP Ultimate as the car seems plenty quick, I get double points on my Nectar card and I get double points from my Amex Nectar Credit Card.
Sounds like me with my Shell VPower card and Tesco Clubcard :grin: ... the points certainly add up over the months don't they ? :drool:
My local Shell garage is literally 200m away from my house so Vpower is a bit of a no brainer for me when nearly empty.
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i get the vower club card points. takes ages to get enough points to actually get anything though!
i use telco momentum also if were passing and I'm in need of a fill up as its usually slightly cheaper and telco often have 5p off a litre when you spend in store which is a great deal
i never find my car runs differently on ultimate/vpower/momentum
i have only ever put 95 in once though as i was desperate for fuel (only put £5 to get me to the shell garage :grin:)
my clio was very picky on fuel - would run bad on total 97 and normal 95 but on telco 99 and vower it was much better.
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i get the vower club card points. takes ages to get enough points to actually get anything though!
i use telco momentum also if were passing and I'm in need of a fill up as its usually slightly cheaper and telco often have 5p off a litre when you spend in store which is a great deal
i never find my car runs differently on ultimate/vpower/momentum
i have only ever put 95 in once though as i was desperate for fuel (only put £5 to get me to the shell garage :grin:)
I used to do the Shell Drivers club point but it has to be one of the worst Loyalty schemes I've ever seen. I don't think you can beat Nectar or Tesco especially combined with their credit cards too.
Jim
my clio was very picky on fuel - would run bad on total 97 and normal 95 but on telco 99 and vower it was much better.
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I think Tesco it will be. I've got a Shell V-Power club card but that can go in the bin now. I've just ordered some new club cards. I had a word with the lady at Tesco and she said they've never ran out of Momentum and said they have 2 tanks for Momentum, one has 11,000 litres and the other has 9,000 litres. That's not a lot compared with their other "main" tanks - but plenty for a premium fuel which isn't used as much. Sounds good to me !
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I'm sure I got a leaflet through about a Tesco credit card recently, that gave extra points over and above a clubcard
or was it another card :rolleyes:
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I've been using Tesco Momentum 99 for over two years now, it's my preferred choice of super unleaded and the benefits are: cheapest super on the market; improved economy; and the more you spend at Tesco the more rewards you'll get with them, eg vouchers to pay for fuel, clubcard points etc.
Personally, I don't see much difference between V-Power, Ultimate and Momentum 99. But I do want to try Sainsburys Super and was wondering if it's the same stuff as BP's Ultimate cos of the Nectar card connection; the Sainsburys garage near me was charging 1.32p/litre for its Super but that was the price six weeks ago! Likely to have gone up.
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Pretty sure Sainsburys is the cheapest Super on the market (which is why it's the one I use :grin:). It's only ever about 2 or 3p more than the standard unleaded so great value and ofter cheaper than standard unleaded is in other petrol stations. That said it's only 97 ron not 98/99. But I see it as a good compromise in these hard-up times!
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Tesco Momentum certainly gives a boost, as does Total Excellium. V-Power is also has a noticable improvement to performance but costs a fortune. So value for money I'd go with Tesco. BP Ultimate just doesn't do it for my GTI.