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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 17:30

Title: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 17:30
to cut a long story short, car was going to be re mapped by pro tune due to a new larger turbo been fitted, after the first live map at one of his agents he discovered it had been mapped before by revo so been as he was 180 miles away he was to map a replacement ecu send it down and agent to fit it. I was asked to remove the ecu to get the numbers from it which i did, refitted it, started it all sounded good. Anyway pro tune said he couldnt do it as the car is bit of a hybrid and he couldnt do it with that ecu in it as it was the standard 150 ecu, with the stage 2 turbo he said it couldnt be done!!! i dont know to be honest i have just come over from subaru's and still a learning curve for me at minute. Anyhow i got in touch with jabba sport who said no problem he could do it so is booked in for the 7th.

Problem now went back to car started it, running really rough like it was only on 2 or 3 cylinders. I had no time to have a look then as i was picking wife up from work so jumped in the trusty old mk3. Got back to it about an hour later tried to start it nothing!! just turned over. I double checked ecu connection all good, tried all fuses, tried disconnecting battery, last night had a mobile bloke come round to plug it in and it wouldnt pick up the car, think one time it said odb short might be wrong.

really had a guts full at the minute really considering breaking it if this is going to be costly.

any help would be gratefully, many thanks paul
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Toby on 02 February 2012, 18:17
Any fault codes?

Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Chris. on 02 February 2012, 18:20
Thats why you dont use revo for a modified car - especially a hybrid turbo!

You need a full custom map from someone like R-tech who fully understand 1.8T ecus

What mods have you got and engine code?
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: richw911 on 02 February 2012, 18:44
Double check fuse's 10 and 29  :smiley:
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: littco on 02 February 2012, 19:03
ME3.8 can be mapped without problem on hybrids. It's not ideal as they are pretty old but it can be done. Revo tend to give drivel about it not being possible or you can have a stage 1 modified map etc but they just have the capability to map hybrids on the agu properly. You need to as said before speak to R-tech as they will be able to do it. As for you bad running well could be the map or could be just a loose pipe connector etc.
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Chris. on 02 February 2012, 19:07
Thats the thing, most revo agents just put a stage 1 map on and tweak it slightly and claim you have a custom map.  Much safer to get a full custom map IMHO.
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 19:48
Any fault codes?



no fault codes, when he plugged it in it wouldnt bring any data up he tried about 30 times nothing at all like it wasnt even connected!!!
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: richw911 on 02 February 2012, 19:50
Any fault codes?



no fault codes, when he plugged it in it wouldnt bring any data up he tried about 30 times nothing at all like it wasnt even connected!!!

Have you check the fuses 10 and 29 as if they are gone you will be unable to connect  :smiley:
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 19:59
Thats why you dont use revo for a modified car - especially a hybrid turbo!

You need a full custom map from someone like R-tech who fully understand 1.8T ecus

What mods have you got and engine code?

it was mapped by revo before i had it, engine code is AUQ fully forged, custom inlet manifold, garrett gt 28 stage 2 turbo, full milltek exhaust, green injectors, forge front mount etc etc
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 20:00
Any fault codes?



no fault codes, when he plugged it in it wouldnt bring any data up he tried about 30 times nothing at all like it wasnt even connected!!!
checked those tonight along with a few more all fuses fine
Have you check the fuses 10 and 29 as if they are gone you will be unable to connect  :smiley:
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 02 February 2012, 20:05
as for the remap i like what i have read and heard about jabba sport so will give them a try, he reckons a full day on the rollers to set it up total £475 inc vat didnt think this was to bad.

to be honest if this is going to be costly to get repaired i may break it and start again
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Chris. on 02 February 2012, 20:21
Try giving R-tech a shout....gaurentee it will be cheaper ;)
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 03 February 2012, 03:12
i need to get it running first
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Deano2711 on 03 February 2012, 07:09
Whereabouts are you Mate......I always have trouble trying to connect Vag Com to my car but I have a fault code reader which is miles easier and should get codes unless the aforementioned fuses need changing.
Title: Re: really need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 03 February 2012, 18:06
Whereabouts are you Mate......I always have trouble trying to connect Vag Com to my car but I have a fault code reader which is miles easier and should get codes unless the aforementioned fuses need changing.

hi mate im in stourbridge mate by train station
Title: Re: UPDATE, need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 03 February 2012, 18:12
update, towed it to a local garage this morning after 2 hours of investigating they found it was getting fuel and there was a spark all they could find was there was a signal from the crank sensor to the ecu but nothing back out of the ecu, there conclusion is the ecu is at fault they are saying they can have it sent away to be checked and repaired if there is a fault. My question is does this sound like it could be the problem? if i buy another ecu with matching numbers will it plug in and work i know i will have to get the key coded but apart from that will it be ok?
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Chris. on 04 February 2012, 12:46
Unless there is further problems....
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Wazzzer on 04 February 2012, 13:32
So the tuner who couldn't do it told you the AUQ had a standard 150bhp ECU in there?! :huh:

Alarm bells are ringing Willy...
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 05 February 2012, 16:56
can anybody help as need to get my car back running asap will another ecu work? will it have to have matching numbers?
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Wazzzer on 05 February 2012, 20:07
do you get a flashing key icon on the dash while you try starting it?

You can't just plug another ECU in and fire it up, it needs to be coded in via VAG COM first

you will need an ECU from an AUQ engined Golf (180bhp) but as for numbers being right/wrong I don't know
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: blackcountryboy on 06 February 2012, 08:09
do you get a flashing key icon on the dash while you try starting it?

You can't just plug another ECU in and fire it up, it needs to be coded in via VAG COM first

you will need an ECU from an AUQ engined Golf (180bhp) but as for numbers being right/wrong I don't know

no i dont get a flashing key icon when im trying to start it, at the minute it hasnt got an auq ecu you in i think its the standard 150 bhp aug ecu  that was mapped by revo i was fine with the old turbo. Is there anyone on here who will know i can pm or any companys that will know i can ring thanks
Title: Re: UPDATE!!! need urgent help, pulling my hair out. Wont start HELP!!!!
Post by: Deano2711 on 06 February 2012, 09:43
I have a fault code reader but I am not sure if this will help but got to be worth a try !!!!!  I work in Lye so could pop round to yours one of the nights after work if you want. PM ne if any good to you Bud  :cool: