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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Exonian on 29 January 2012, 10:53

Title: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 29 January 2012, 10:53
I fully appreciate this thread will end up like a junior school playground punch up, but what the hell, here goes:

I bought one of the early mk6 GTIs. I was torn between an immaculate late model ED30/Pirelli or the newly launched mk6 GTI. I plumped for the mk6 mainly due to the fact it had the new engine which was supposedly better on fuel and very tuneable, and the fact that I'm not the worlds biggest fan of the K04 turbo as I can't drive properly and find it laggy. For me, that was the best of the Golf range back in 2009.

My first one was bought as a standard spec car as I knew most of the things I wanted to fit could be retro fitted much cheaper than factory options and thus protect the value of the car better long term by not losing lots of money on factory extras.

So, fast forward a couple of years and I'd got itchy feet again. I looked at everything in the VAG stable and most things from other marques. But for me the standard GTI still won me over (I have a 25 year history of GTIs so may be very biased).
So I got another one back last September, with a few extras this time that will no doubt cost me big time in the future.

But the real reason for this thread is a conversation I had with a friend of mine who works for a car leasing company. He is a big VAG fan too, but very open minded, and drives a huge range of cars all the time. He recently brought round a new GTD DSG for me to have a play with, and I was mightily impressed with it. But I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be with it. We had a chat about which would be the best 'all rounder' from the Golf stable and both agreed that the GT TDI 140 DSG was the best when value, driving fun (the 140 just seems more responsive low down than the 170, and the CR 170 doesn't have the kick that made the PD 170 such fun), comfort, running costs, price and spec were all taken into consideration.

I'm not saying it is the best drivers car in the range, the GTI still holds that for me and the R is obviously a step up again from that, but not for me as it's just too expensive for my meagre wages.

But I do reckon that the GT TDI DSG 140 has the best blend of talents.

Let's hear your disagreements and let the fighting commence...
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: The Doc on 29 January 2012, 11:12
I think the GT TDI DSG 140 CR is the pick of the bunch too.

Flameproof outfit on.....
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: R32UK on 29 January 2012, 12:25
I think the GT TDI DSG 140 CR is the pick of the bunch too.

Flameproof outfit on.....

+1

if you insist on having a dsg then have it with this engine  :cool:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Snoopy on 29 January 2012, 13:13
Even before reading this I thought from day one the gt tdi manual was the best
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Ess_Three on 29 January 2012, 13:33
Even before reading this I thought from day one the gt tdi manual was the best

I'd agree...all things considered, the 140 TDI in GT spec is probably the most complete and cost efficient all rounder.
With a manual gearbox.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: The Doc on 29 January 2012, 13:49
Even before reading this I thought from day one the gt tdi manual was the best

I'd agree...all things considered, the 140 TDI in GT spec is probably the most complete and cost efficient all rounder.
With a manual gearbox.

Nah manuals are crap, it has to be a DSG  :grin:

So why on earth are we all driving GTI & GTD variants?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Ess_Three on 29 January 2012, 13:58

So why on earth are we all driving GTI & GTD variants?

Probably because we are happy to pay a bit more and suffer higher running costs for something a bit more indivudual/special?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 29 January 2012, 14:11

So why on earth are we all driving GTI & GTD variants?

Probably because we are happy to pay a bit more and suffer higher running costs for something a bit more indivudual/special?

And it's a GTI forum that would naturally include more 'enthusiasts' who want something a little bit more than the ''best all rounder''.
Still, it's early days yet and obviously more people with more opinions will read this and may or may not be inclined to comment...
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: topher on 29 January 2012, 14:36
as someone who has to diagnose faults on the entire VAG range on a daily basis, i'm inclined to agree with the OP.

although there's far less to go wrong on a nice mk1 GTI :grin:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 29 January 2012, 14:43
as someone who has to diagnose faults on the entire VAG range on a daily basis, i'm inclined to agree with the OP.

although there's far less to go wrong on a nice mk1 GTI :grin:

Between the holes in the bodywork and chassis that is...  :grin:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: topher on 29 January 2012, 14:44
rust is lighter than carbon fibre :afro:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: R32UK on 29 January 2012, 14:51
rust is lighter than carbon fibre :afro:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: JC on 29 January 2012, 15:49
or just get a mk5 and save a few quid  :wink:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: carl1 on 29 January 2012, 15:53
Ive collected a gt140 today for somebody and i have to say i was very impressed, not the fastest by any means but a great allrounder.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 29 January 2012, 16:53
as someone who has to diagnose faults on the entire VAG range on a daily basis, i'm inclined to agree with the OP.

although there's far less to go wrong on a nice mk1 GTI :grin:
or just get a mk5 and save a few quid  :wink:

Neither of these are mk6s.
Though Chuff is quite correct, mk5's do rust like mk1s.

No go and moderate yourselves you two for going off topic.

Which is the best mk6 allrounder?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: dieseldunc on 29 January 2012, 18:11
You folk have just given me a rosey warm glow.................check my sig spec.  :nerd:



But not too smug................I'd have a GTI if I could afford the fuel  :embarassed:

Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: dubber36 on 29 January 2012, 18:41
If you are not too fussed about the sportier spec of the GT TDI, I reckon the Match is the best all rounder of the bunch. I had a 1.6 TDI BMT manual for around 3 weeks, and have to say, as a tool to get you about, it's a bloody good car. RCD 510, Bluetooth, Parking Sensors, Cruise, Auto lights and wipers etc all as standard.

I do prefer my GT TDI over all tho'. The slightly lower ride height, sparkley Vancouvers, front fogs that wink and privacy glass, sadly get me taking a glance at it at every opportunity. I do wish I had bought a DSG tho' and bugger what my wife wanted.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: The Doc on 29 January 2012, 22:17
Now go and moderate yourselves you two for going off topic.

Which is the best mk6 allrounder?

Firm but fair - I'll keep you in mind for the moderation team  :grin:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: evo1986 on 29 January 2012, 22:29
Golf match 2.0 tdi manual bluemotion tech. Great equipment, fair performance and epic economy.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: p3asa on 29 January 2012, 22:36
The GT 140 is definitely a great car but not the cheapest. Mine was around £21,500 3 year ago and not a kick in the ass off a GTD price.  I only went for the GT as it had a special PCP deal which the GTI / GTD didn't.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: dubber36 on 30 January 2012, 08:02
The Match and GT TDI make even more sense if you buy them used.

The Match that I was in a couple of weeks ago would be £20,775 new. 3 months old, with 4000 miles on it, the dealers had it up for £17,495. Considering the discount I got on my GT TDI (the same screen price when I bought it) as I had no trade in, I reckon with some decent haggling, it makes for exceptional value.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 31 January 2012, 05:00
Golf match 2.0 tdi manual bluemotion tech. Great equipment, fair performance and epic economy.

Good one there Lee, you may have trumped the GT!

It'd have to be the 2.0 Match though, as you suggest, as my Dad has the 1.6 TDI in his Jetta and it's sh1te. The salesman must've seen him coming from a mile off (not difficult when you see the size of his beer gut!!  :grin: )
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: evo1986 on 31 January 2012, 09:50
Is that a new shape jetta?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 31 January 2012, 19:00
No, a 59 plate old shape which he bought new ignoring all my advice (and doesn't qualify for this section as it's a mk5 based). Mind you, he's retired and still done over 20k in it.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: IainTinTop on 05 February 2012, 14:52
Best all rounder MK6, simple - the GTI 2.0t petrol. 207hp, fantastic handling, and 35plus MPG on a run. Performance, practicality, etc.

So for me unless you do intergalactic mileage..........
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: dubber36 on 05 February 2012, 14:58
Best all rounder MK6, simple - the GTI 2.0t petrol. 207hp, fantastic handling, and 35plus MPG on a run. Performance, practicality, etc.

So for me unless you do intergalactic mileage..........

Granted, the GTI is an excellent all rounder, but money has to come into the equation, which is why I reckon a used Match or GT scores so highly.
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 05 February 2012, 15:01
Best all rounder MK6, simple - the GTI 2.0t petrol. 207hp, fantastic handling, and 35plus MPG on a run. Performance, practicality, etc.

So for me unless you do intergalactic mileage..........

Granted, the GTI is an excellent all rounder, but money has to come into the equation, which is why I reckon a used Match or GT scores so highly.

Agreed, and this is why I started this thread on a GTI forum!  :smug:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: carl1 on 29 March 2012, 21:35
I originaly said  a gt 140, ive had use of one  (match spec)the last 2 days and while im amazed at the mpg the MFD is displaying, God i am board to death, yes you save money on fuel not only because its more economical but because i don't want to drive for pleasure, i only have driven it when i have to, it's such a chore and just no fun at all. Can't wait to get back home a drive my Gti. So i change my mind to me the Gti is the best alrounder :smiley:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Steve30 on 29 March 2012, 23:14
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: topher on 29 March 2012, 23:16
does the tiguan share the same chassis as the mk5 then?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Steve30 on 29 March 2012, 23:18
does the tiguan share the same chassis as the mk5 then?

I'm not sure about that one topher ? :undecided:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: topher on 29 March 2012, 23:21
me neither. should probably find out before you class your baby touareg as the best all round mk6 :tongue: :laugh:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Wayne on 29 March 2012, 23:58
does the tiguan share the same chassis as the mk5 then?

It does, built on the PQ35 platform which is also used for the mk5 and mk6 Golf's
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: gizzywizzy on 30 March 2012, 12:32
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Hope you make a speedy full recovery, frightening times Steve?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Cliff_944 on 30 March 2012, 19:48
I loved my MK1 GTi.  I would have another GTi if I did less mileage or had more money.  I have been converted to oil burners and like how are easy they are to drive on a long journey with all that torque.  I have a friend and a family member with the GT 140 and I nearly bought one.  They are great cars.  Perhaps I needed something different?
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Steve30 on 30 March 2012, 19:52
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Hope you make a speedy full recovery, frightening times Steve?

Thanks Amanda , I'm still off work until the 17th April with full pay so i'm just taking nice and easy at home with my son.  :wink:
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Cliff_944 on 30 March 2012, 19:57
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Hope you make a speedy full recovery, frightening times Steve?

Thanks Amanda , I'm still off work until the 17th April with full pay so i'm just taking nice and easy at home with my son.  :wink:


Yes, hope you get well soon.  I had some problems with my liver last year.  The only good thing is it is good at repairing itself....
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Steve30 on 30 March 2012, 20:03
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Hope you make a speedy full recovery, frightening times Steve?



Thanks Amanda , I'm still off work until the 17th April with full pay so i'm just taking nice and easy at home with my son.  :wink:
Yes your right it ,but not cirrosis part off liver through out the 80's I was bang at it which is why i'm suffering now thanks though mate. :wink:

Yes, hope you get well soon.  I had some problems with my liver last year.  The only good thing is it is good at repairing itself....
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Mr GTD on 30 March 2012, 21:51
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Hope you make a speedy full recovery, frightening times Steve?



Thanks Amanda , I'm still off work until the 17th April with full pay so i'm just taking nice and easy at home with my son.  :wink:
Yes your right it ,but not cirrosis part off liver through out the 80's I was bang at it which is why i'm suffering now thanks though mate. :wink:

Yes, hope you get well soon.  I had some problems with my liver last year.  The only good thing is it is good at repairing itself....

Get well soon bud!
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Exonian on 01 April 2012, 11:12
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Jeez, that must've been scary, get well soon Steve
Title: Re: Which is the best 'all rounder' MK6?
Post by: Steve30 on 01 April 2012, 19:45
Sorry guys i'm going to say the TiG is the best allrounder  :wink:

Havent been around here for a while was on a life support machine for 2 days last month with liver failure, god its good to be alive  :drool:

Jeez, that must've been scary, get well soon Steve

 Yes Andy almost died mate , touch and go at one point !! Just taking it easy now off work for few more weeks yet but thanks mate . :wink: