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General => Cosmetic and bodywork matters => Topic started by: Sam on 28 January 2012, 19:28

Title: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 28 January 2012, 19:28

Ok this has been covred a million times but never has there been a definative answer. Check out this pic....

(http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/caistor_bmx/IMAG0195.jpg)

And thathom me this, is this legal? And if not, how come landrovers and stuff have massive wheels that stick out 4 miles? The randy lover boys seem to defend themselves (no pun intended) with the following legislation:

Link to full regs: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 49:EN:HTML

Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;


In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard.

It's also in the MOT regs

(d) wheels, if there are no pointed or sharp features which projects beyond the external plane of the wheel rim, no wing nuts are fitted and there are no projections beyond the vehicle body plan form apart from tyres and wheel discs, (including central wheel securing nuts) if the latter have a radius of curvature of not less than 30mm and do not project by more than 30mm beyond the vehicle body plan form ;


So.... discus  :smiley:

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Thom89 on 28 January 2012, 19:36

Illegal Sam, tread protruding the arch...  60mm drop may help a little, but its so minimal, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. MOT wise, its a grey area, for quite a few reasons, most testers will just fail it to cover themselves, problem nearly always lies with a Police spot check, where they will deem that the car is in an unsafe condition, and a danger to pedestrians...

Thom

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 28 January 2012, 19:37

Quote from: thom89 on 28 January 2012, 19:36

Illegal Sam, tread protruding the arch...  60mm drop may help a little, but its so minimal, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

Thom

Dont spose you have any super powers that may aid a little more space creation do you thom?

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Wayne on 28 January 2012, 21:21

I would say that is illegal  :smiley:

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Jack3559 on 28 January 2012, 23:35

Only just illegal. Some negative camber would sort it.

A healthy drop and some mad max rivet arches would be the best way to sort it though.

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 30 January 2012, 10:02

Quote from: Jack3559 on 28 January 2012, 23:35

Only just illegal. Some negative camber would sort it.

A healthy drop and some mad max rivet arches would be the best way to sort it though.

This is what I want to try, Any pointers towards arches!? I dont mind it looking a little mad as its more fun that way. They really dont get it on 'audi-sport dot whatever' which is fairly annoying for extracting info, then when a pic of an A4 with flaired arches and wide wheels goes up they all jizz over it  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Jack3559 on 30 January 2012, 11:08

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-WIDE-ARCHES-EXTENSIONS-FENDERS-BODYKIT-BOLT-ON-/190624099462?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c6214ec86

These look pretty good... May need to check the measurements of your arches first though.

If they're not a perfect fit, I doubt it would take much sanding/heat gun/filler action to get them on.

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 30 January 2012, 13:12

 :evil:

(http://scene-media.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ryan5.jpg)

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Jack3559 on 30 January 2012, 13:44

Oh god yes! :drool:

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 30 January 2012, 16:44

Would it work on a Gloss car though? Gloss car and matt arches, slammed?

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Jack3559 on 30 January 2012, 16:50

Yeah, absolutely.

I prefer the gloss body, matte bosozoku flavour to the all satin look.

Title: Re: Pretruding wheels
Post by: Sam on 30 January 2012, 22:22

 :undecided:

(http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/caistor_bmx/Audiwitharches.jpg)