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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: super427 on 24 September 2003, 22:05

Title: MK1 BRAKES
Post by: super427 on 24 September 2003, 22:05

Hi all,
I am sure this has been done to death before
but kinda new to a RHD mk1 (used to have LHD
one about 15 years ago and never had the prob)

Whats the best way to make it stop better, a kind of
hit list from the easy cheap ways up to replacing
everything with bigger better etc.

Looking for peoples experiences re pads, disks, servos
hoses, that kind of thing.

Any help would be much appreciated.


Kind Regards,


MAC

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: AdamB on 25 September 2003, 12:12

I'm going for a C&R upgrade in a couple of weeks. Bigger discs, pads and calipers, plus braided hoses. I'll keep the forum noted on how it turns out
Adam

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: super427 on 26 September 2003, 01:07

Thanks will look out for that

MAC

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: deacon on 28 September 2003, 19:00

A cheap and simple solution is to change your calipers to 16v jobbies and to change the master cylinder to a 22mm one you will need the carriers from an Audi 80 to fit them cheap but VERY effective

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: MK1_BOY on 28 September 2003, 19:03

Best way to sort your braking probs is to get a newer car....  My Mk1 one brakes are crap, drive a new car aswell, dont want to say what....  Crao brakes are part of the experience, makes you a better driver, stick with the crap ones mate, enjoy yourself...

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: super427 on 06 October 2003, 22:05

 ;D

Hi Deacon,

Thanks for the advice, is a simple bolt on job or
is there any welding/drilling etc required.
Assume the original disks are OK or do you need
16v disks?
MK1 boy does have a point, surpose all they do is
slow you down!!

Regards,

MAC

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: golfvr6 on 07 October 2003, 00:31

All they do is slow you down? not much too worry about then  ;)

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: AdamB on 03 November 2003, 22:41

Hi Guys - fianllay got  my brake upgrade done - big thanks to the boys at C&R Enterprises - they are still bedding in, but even so they still feel better than the stock ones.
I still get the spongy travel of the original, but a mk2 master cylinder will hopefully sort this out.
The Black Diamond discs, coupled with predator pads, larger calipers, carriers, and braided hose, gives such a massive decrease in stopping distance - no longer am I relying on prayer power to save me! - It wasn't cheap (just under ?500 all in and fitted) but definatly worth the money. Next up - rear disc conversion  ;D
Adam

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: rustynuts on 03 November 2003, 23:39

Surely you get to the point where it becomes a waste of money, the Mk1's main problem is the slop inducing linkage. I kind of agree with the statement above regarding leaving them standard. I say kind of because I may well go the 16v servo and M/C route as well as perhaps braided brake hoses. What I won't do is the rear drums as Mk1's quite frankly don't need them as well set up drums are good enough. :)

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: AdamB on 03 November 2003, 23:57

The rears are partially cosmetic, but I treat the car as a hobby, so I dont consider it wasting money

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: rustynuts on 04 November 2003, 17:02

Fair enough, perceived value is what its all about, as long as you are happy  ;D I personally would not spend that on the Mk1, but I am on a budget too  :(

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: AdamB on 04 November 2003, 17:10

I think it probably makes a difference that my mk1 is probably younger than any of the mk2's on the road - it's a '92, so I dont really consider it to be that old - or am I living in the past!!
I'm lucky enough to not have to run it to a budget too.
I was down at C&R Enterprises over the weekend and a mk1 was being completely stripped back and rebuilt to the standard of a "just-off the production line" motor. Apparently the guy wanted another 15 years out of it!!

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: golfvr6 on 04 November 2003, 17:14

Just think how old a mk1 will look in 15 years time!  :-*

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: 8pot on 04 November 2003, 22:27

It is not that they look old as small. Parked next to modern cars they look tiny. Anyway, just because they are old and in many cases worth relatively little is not a reason to not spend money on them. Whatever car you modify you will lose a fortune. My car has the Autocavan super brake conversion with two servos in the boot and no cross over thingy. Quite nice pedal feel and doesnt half make engine look lost in the bay.

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: essex_lad on 05 November 2003, 11:01

I would say that the very first thing to do would be the 22mm M/C and 9" Servo Mod.

I've just done this on my '83 GTI and it's transformed them, feel like modern brakes now, no more stamping on the pedal and praying.

The rest of the braking system is bog standard and I'll probably keep it that way, got other ideas of where to spend money :-)

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: super427 on 18 November 2003, 17:32

Hi all,
Thanks for all the correspondence on brakes, very interesting reading.
I've just renew'd the front pads and put some 'power' disks
on from Eurocar parts, only done afew miles but they do feel better.
Think I will go for the 22mm M/C and sevo, cos the wifes got to drive it. Is there any where that does a kit, or is the scrap yard the only place.

Regards,


Mark

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: AdamB on 18 November 2003, 18:09

Mark, can you post your findings on the 22mm conversion, i.e. prices, brake feel, value for money etc. As I think this may be the next step for a less spongy feel

Title: Re:MK1 BRAKES
Post by: super427 on 21 November 2003, 22:57

hi,
Sure will, might have to wait a bit, cos I'm currently
getting an old Alfa ready for racing next season
so the Golf's had to take a back seat for a bit.