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Title: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 18 January 2012, 18:58
Hi just had the scariest moment of my life  :sad:

noticed a vibration thought it was strange as car had been running fine day before, went to pic dad up from local train station and it got loud so stopped car.

had a look and he noticed back wheel was wobbling  :shocked: then on closer inspection 3 bolts have dissappeared?

now i know 100% the bolts had been tightened up when i put wheels on so dont know whether someone has tried to steal my wheels then ran out of time/ given up or they had just worked loose.


So question is i have 20mm spacers on rear with these wheels below, what bolts do i need? The bolts came with the spacers so dont even know if they were right ones to start  with?

Thanks guys feel a bit shaken up as anything could have happened :lipsrsealed: (times like this when i feel like someone is watching me up there) :smiley:

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=425911

http://www.rimstyle.com/alloywheels/selection/?car_model_id=12930;wheel=cades_bern_hs

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/73957ea8.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/f983c325.jpg)

Thanks
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 January 2012, 19:34
With them being aftermarket wheels I would have thought they will be taper bolts

Have a look where the bolts contact the wheels and feel with your finger if its straight or slightly curved

*Edit* And the link to the cases it shows you down the bottom they come with bolts which are taper bolts.
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: jnufcuk on 18 January 2012, 19:40
Don't know if they are cades that's the thing. Think they are vmr as he rang them up and apparently they do make the wheels in 5x100 of you phone up or something  lol

Are tapered different to normal bolts?
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 January 2012, 19:44
(http://www.f150online.com/forums/members/kingfish51-albums-truck-pics-picture266-lug-nut-types.jpg)

Standard bolts are Radius, most aftermarket are tapered.
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: jnufcuk on 18 January 2012, 19:47
Ok brill cheers mate. Will have to get some tomo :(
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: harlemex on 18 January 2012, 19:50
get some what?
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 January 2012, 19:55
when you search google for VMR 5 x 100 you get this thread, which is a few years old
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/304330-VMR-Wheels-Audi-TT-w-V710-Sneak-Peek!
And VMR say they don't make 5x100 only 5x112 and 5x120 and no site which sells the VMR's sell 5x100.
So am pretty positive they are Cades and are taper bolts
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: jnufcuk on 18 January 2012, 20:03
Just text Nadlad and he said he used tapered bolts so that sorts that. Just need to get some long enough to fit on 20mm spacers.
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: jockgti on 18 January 2012, 20:22
standard are 27mm thread length i think, i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong so 50mm at least i would have thought
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 January 2012, 21:14
yeah 27mm standard, if they are 20mm bolt through spacers 50mm will do. if they are bolt on spacers buy you may need you cut them down if they are too long
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2012, 21:44
Easy to source on ebay but 100% taper bolts needed, they may not be Cades btw loads of reps available
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 10:07
Wheels bolts straight thru. Popping down to halfords later bud can't see then having ones thst long? Don't kno where else to try where I can get them straight away
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels?
Post by: Wayne on 19 January 2012, 10:30
Not sure how close this is to you: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-x-VW-Wheel-Bolts-Golf-14-x-1-5-/250699753659?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item3a5edea8bb

Or: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-pcs-WHEEL-BOLTS-VW-GOLF-4-14X1-5-28MM-/260824535916?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item3cba5a936c
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 14:34
had a look at bolts and these are the ones they have atm?

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/6e3a1a91.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/e6703380.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/642c2bd0.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/5e1e0117.jpg)
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 January 2012, 14:50
They are tapered bolts.
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 15:06
They are tapered bolts.

so they are correct atleast must have just worked loost then or someone undone them  :lipsrsealed:

size is correct?

will have to get some more then. Will hopefully try the place wayne suggested.

Thanks guys

p.s. just found out the are cade berns 710 :smiley:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics
Post by: Wayne on 19 January 2012, 16:10

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/5e1e0117.jpg)


This to me looks like it has been overtightened  :undecided: maybe the spacers are causing issues
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 January 2012, 18:04
40mm bolts, they the ones which go through the 20mm spacers? Did you torque them up?
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 18:08
40mm bolts, they the ones which go through the 20mm spacers? Did you torque them up?

yes theyre the ones which go thru, dont have a torque wrench so just done them tight?

Been to about 3-5 different wheels places and non have any bolts that size  :sad:

got myself a torque wrench and copper grease on the plus side lol :grin:

question is now:

what size would normal bolts be as i may take of spacers off for the time being until i can source some longer bolts.

Thanks

edit:

had the same bolts on montys and 4motion alloys (winter wheels) and no problems?
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: cullygti on 19 January 2012, 18:17
are they long enough mate i got 41mm long bolts with 15mm spacers they came with the spacers as a set so 40mm with 20mm spacer just dont seem right to me  :undecided: just read rest of post lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 18:20

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/gtijon/642c2bd0.jpg)


this is how much us going into the wheel hub? is that enough.

just found this site which has differnet sizes http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/search_result/keywords/wheel+bolts/desc/1/x/0/y/0/pg/1.html

so i need M14 x 1.5 x ??

just using the bolts that came with the spacers so thought they would have been ok  :grin:

Thanks
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: cullygti on 19 January 2012, 18:25
well standard are 27-28mm just add on 20mm =47-48mm should be ok then mate i know how you feel cos my front ones come loose not to long ago is quite scary mate wasnt my fault though the garage didnt do them up properly  :shocked:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 18:31
well standard are 27-28mm just add on 20mm =47-48mm should be ok then mate i know how you feel cos my front ones come loose not to long ago is quite scary mate wasnt my fault though the garage didnt do them up properly  :shocked:

ok brill need to source some standard bolts lol

the 27-28mm is that the thread length? or bolt length?

sorry being dumb here  :embarassed:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 18:50
will these bolts work, from same place as i got spacers but slightly longer bolts http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-AUDI-EXTENDED-BIMECC-ALLOY-WHEEL-BOLTS-50MM-SET-10-/300578255082?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item45fbdc30ea#ht_3018wt_1270

will they work with my wheels though? also what about locking nuts :undecided:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: cullygti on 19 January 2012, 19:42
try this guy mate got mine from him send him a message explaining what you need and maybe he can help he sorted mine out for me and he is a really sound chap  :wink:
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/justwheelsuk
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 January 2012, 19:49
should really have 50mm bolts with 20mm spacers. standard bolts are 27mm + 20mm
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: Steve_PD on 19 January 2012, 19:52
Whoops didn't read all the posts

That ebay link is the correct bolts but you will need to buy a locking set as well which unfortunately only come in 4's :sad:
Title: Re: what wheel bolts do i need for my wheels? UPDATED with Pics 2nd page
Post by: jnufcuk on 19 January 2012, 20:07
Whoops didn't read all the posts

That ebay link is the correct bolts but you will need to buy a locking set as well which unfortunately only come in 4's :sad:

just had to buy a set of 4 for front  :sad: oh well not too fussed better than not having them at all

can you even get locking nuts that long?  :undecided: