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Title: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:07
hi Guys, i want a track car as a new project its gota be VAG ;-)

Has any1 got any ideas? sumit tht i can strip down, and kit it out to the max... i have time and a few bob hear and there so yea, just been thinking of how much fun it would be :-D

Thinking MK4, MK2 Golf?

Any ideas u have please let me know, even if its not VAG, Thanks
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 15 January 2012, 22:15
wouldnt use a mk4, there right fat fatherless sons.
ide proberbly look into a mk2. maybe an old polo bread van
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: jonrandom on 15 January 2012, 22:18
Yeah the mk4 not a good choice handling wise for a track car but the 1.8t engine thats defo what you want for a track car! Mk2 with the 1.8t engine now thats a winner!!
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:23
yes jonrandom, thats wat i thought of :-D

Can i ask a silly qeston? how hard do u rek it would be to find a mk2 1.8T ? Sorry, im a MK4 Lad.

Thanks m8
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: JC on 15 January 2012, 22:26
first point - track day and motorsport section is down a few rows V V V V V

second, a standard 16v MkII or for that bit more poke a ABF'd mkII would be more than enough for a first track car IMHO

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: dan_apps on 15 January 2012, 22:27
mk3 8v 5 door in black i would suggest...

funnily enough i have one for sale for not alot of cash :grin:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: JC on 15 January 2012, 22:28
track car, not mobile chicane  :kiss:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Horney on 15 January 2012, 22:28
What  Chuff said.

Nick
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: dan_apps on 15 January 2012, 22:29


....i have feelings to you know! :cry:


all very true though :laugh:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Steve_PD on 15 January 2012, 22:32
Just scrap it. . . . . along with whats left of the mk2 pile of rust :lipsrsealed: :grin: :kiss:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: dan_apps on 15 January 2012, 22:37
Just scrap it. . . . . along with whats left of the mk2 pile of rust :lipsrsealed: :grin: :kiss:

some hapless fellow on ebay will be buying a MINT (as thats what i will be selling it as) atlas mk2 shell soon enough, ill let them pick it up from Rhysos when we are up there next month so he doesnt know where i live :laugh:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:38
Yee, your right Chuff, i dont nessesary need a big engine, i rekon a 16v will be fine? ;-)
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Steve_PD on 15 January 2012, 22:39
Just scrap it. . . . . along with whats left of the mk2 pile of rust :lipsrsealed: :grin: :kiss:

some hapless fellow on ebay will be buying a MINT (as thats what i will be selling it as) atlas mk2 shell soon enough, ill let them pick it up from Rhysos when we are up there next month so he doesnt know where i live :laugh:

As if, this time last year we was going to be stripping it one weekend and look where we are now. . .
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: dan_apps on 15 January 2012, 22:40
Just scrap it. . . . . along with whats left of the mk2 pile of rust :lipsrsealed: :grin: :kiss:

some hapless fellow on ebay will be buying a MINT (as thats what i will be selling it as) atlas mk2 shell soon enough, ill let them pick it up from Rhysos when we are up there next month so he doesnt know where i live :laugh:

As if, this time last year we was going to be stripping it one weekend and look where we are now. . .

have faith Steven .. have faith!

anyway back on topic :grin:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:41
MK2 16V it is thn???  :drool:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: JC on 15 January 2012, 22:43
Yee, your right Chuff, i dont nessesary need a big engine, i rekon a 16v will be fine? ;-)

restart a thread in the motorsport section.

mkII or mkIII abf'd stripped out toy would be your best bet,

get it handling, braking and turning right first.

THEN more power  :wink:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: jonrandom on 15 January 2012, 22:46
Yee, your right Chuff, i dont nessesary need a big engine, i rekon a 16v will be fine? ;-)

restart a thread in the motorsport section.

mkII or mkIII abf'd stripped out toy would be your best bet,

get it handling, braking and turning right first.

THEN more power  :wink:

Defo right.

But if you want to risk you life and have load of cash
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3547556.htm
 :laugh:
Bit to nice to track tho!
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:47
Cool, Sounds like a plan. Cheers Chap.
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:51
F##K me tht be nice :-P

I would want preety extrem power tho? been in a 240bhp MK2 1.8T, and tht be pukka i rek? good enuff power i rek?
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Horney on 15 January 2012, 22:55
MK2 GTI (any engine will do to start with)
Sort suspension
Sort breaks
Get good tyres
Get some light rims
Get some buckets and harnesses
Get some instruction

then look at more power.

Nick
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Horney on 15 January 2012, 22:56
My build thread for some reading material.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=117210.0

nick
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 22:57
i rekon i could do tht, Thanks m8 :cool:
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: jonrandom on 15 January 2012, 23:10
My build thread for some reading material.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=117210.0

nick

Had a quick read through awesome stuff mate!! :cool:

I live in Bedford right next to Parmer audi I should get a track car!
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Broomers-GTi on 15 January 2012, 23:18
Nice m8, looks fun ;-)

took me a while to read, wat BHP is it putting out?

Thanks Phil
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Horney on 15 January 2012, 23:25
Only about 135 but enough to have fun on track.

Nick
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Khare on 15 January 2012, 23:37
I wouldn't like turbo on track. Rather have an NA engine that won't suddenly come on boost at the apex.
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: VW BUSH on 15 January 2012, 23:43
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3504243.htm

Only gay if you drive to the shops in it, much fun on the track
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: barrym381 on 16 January 2012, 00:09
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3244256.htm
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: tweed on 16 January 2012, 00:50
I wouldn't like turbo on track. Rather have an NA engine that won't suddenly come on boost at the apex.


All down to the set up. There's plenty of good turbo track cars.

I thought the 1.8t was good for no lag?
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: clancy on 16 January 2012, 15:54
my RS clio. very quick and handles brilliant, all ready to go on the track too ;) just wants stripping out

check my link vvv
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: DOA on 16 January 2012, 18:29
my RS clio. very quick and handles brilliant, all ready to go on the track too ;) just wants stripping out

check my link vvv

Your price is too high but they are ideal for track cars at the 1 to 1.5k price they fetch nowadays.
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: clancy on 16 January 2012, 18:40
my RS clio. very quick and handles brilliant, all ready to go on the track too ;) just wants stripping out

check my link vvv

Your price is too high but they are ideal for track cars at the 1 to 1.5k price they fetch nowadays.

average ones do yeah, seen a few in the same condition as mine go for 1.8-2.5K in the past few months

either way, would be good on the track
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 16 January 2012, 19:01
Wot no MK3 Diesel recommendation yet.

I hear the Red ones are fastest.

Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 January 2012, 21:46
I wouldn't like turbo on track. Rather have an NA engine that won't suddenly come on boost at the apex.


All down to the set up. There's plenty of good turbo track cars.

I thought the 1.8t was good for no lag?

na will always be better on track in the pure driving sense, but turbo's are cheaper to get big power from. The way I see it is a fwd will struggle with traction so why make things harder by having a torquey non linear power delivery?

pound for pound turbo's are faster, just not as purist I suppose, besides the 1.8t has a dull as ditchwater power delivery
Title: Re: Want a track car, advice on what to get?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 January 2012, 01:57
If you want the conventional looks then go for a Golf2.

If you want something cheap, find a Golf3 16V with a good body (good luck!).

Strip it out and cage it.

The red G2 on Pistonheads is a sh*tter.  Alloy cages (especially half cages) are dangerous and should be weighed in.

Strip it of all the sound deadening etc and go through all of the bushes, replacing what's knackered.

Don't do a cage unless you can step up to cage, with harness bars and proper bucket seats, on tubular mounts.  If you do part of that equation you will be reducing safety over what's in there OEM.

Don't put cheap coilovers on it, if it has cheap coilovers on it, replace with good struts (Bilstein) or some proper coilovers.

Turbo motors aren't loved by those who have dedicated track motors not only for the lacklustre power delivery, but also because they have more to go wrong.  Nothing worse than a shonky old turbo motor deciding to blow its oil seals and feed itself the engine's oil supply.