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Title: are my wheels legal???
Post by: jimmy1888 on 14 January 2012, 11:37
Hi all,

First off i know its not a mk4 but i have a mk4 so i hope this is ok :grin: so here goes,

Just fitted new wheels to my wifes 1 series and posted a pic up on babybmw.net and all i got were replys saying they were illegal and would fail an mot so i thought i would post up and ask on here as I prefer this site to the "oh my god you didnt fit oem wheels on your bmw! your cars shi*e" brigade over there,lol.

heres the pics

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/jimbo1888/002.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/jimbo1888/003.jpg)

so is it illegal???

cheers

Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: GTI:Gibbo on 14 January 2012, 11:52
I'd say just about.. i run 15mm spacers on my rear Mk4 and they sit flush with my rear arches which is boarder line
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: bobbarley on 14 January 2012, 11:57
Look illegal to me, they protrude from the wheel arch buy a few mm.
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Alan16ac on 14 January 2012, 12:02
I'd say they were probably technically illegal. However they're such a small amount out, it'd take a real anal **** to make a fuss about them.
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Dave_IOW on 14 January 2012, 12:12
Umm completely legal isn't it?

Aslong as the tread of the tyre is under arch, regardless of how ever far you can poke the rim out, it is still legal?

Pretty damn sure thats right?    :drool:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: bobbarley on 14 January 2012, 12:13
I'd say they were probably technically illegal. However they're such a small amount out, it'd take a real anal **** to make a fuss about them.

Don't MOT it at ATS then!  :grin:

Advisories I got recently include:

Child seat fitted to the rear
Car is lowered
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Steve_PD on 14 January 2012, 12:24
Does the wheel or the tyre tread protrude?
If its the top of the tyre its illegal

Also moving this to off topic :tongue:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 January 2012, 12:28
from the front it looks like stretch so no tread protruding
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: dom on 14 January 2012, 12:33
Tiny bit of camber and you'll be fine :wink:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 January 2012, 12:38
no worse than some people on here run, you'll be fine
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: jamie1989 on 14 January 2012, 13:33
Nothing wrong with abit of poke  :grin:
Mines passed an mot everytime nothing said, Iv been pulled over by the police and all they say is nice wheels haha
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Thom89 on 14 January 2012, 13:41
Legal, dont worry about it! take it for an MOT and the tester may fail or advise just to cover himself, iirc there is no guideline for this on MOT test, but get pulled by the Police, then thats a different matter...

Thom
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Bellend on 14 January 2012, 13:42
Side shots? :grin:

I'd say they were probably technically illegal. However they're such a small amount out, it'd take a real anal **** to make a fuss about them.

Don't MOT it at ATS then!  :grin:

Advisories I got recently include:

Child seat fitted to the rear
Car is lowered

Not sure if it's a new thing but some garages advise on anything non standard.
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 14 January 2012, 14:58
re: MOT.

"PROTRUDING WHEELS

I have recently purchased a set of alloy wheels from [a retailer] for my Ford Focus ST170 [who in turn fitted them to my car].
They appeared to be look a wider fitment than the original standard wheel even though they were the same size, 215/45/17, and were visibly protruding beyond the wheel arch on the front by approximately 5-6mm. They have also been catching the wheel arches on the front when going over speed ramps or bigger bumps in the road.

A local MOT Testing Station could not clarify whether this protrusion was classed as illegal so I would hope you could provide clarification? Steven Jewitt

As I understand the situation the only way the MOT is affected is if your new wheels actually foul the bodywork or any other part of the vehicle when the wheels are turned lock to lock when the vehicle is sitting in its normal position."


www.motester.co.uk
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: VW BUSH on 14 January 2012, 15:04
re: MOT.

"PROTRUDING WHEELS

I have recently purchased a set of alloy wheels from [a retailer] for my Ford Focus ST170 [who in turn fitted them to my car].
They appeared to be look a wider fitment than the original standard wheel even though they were the same size, 215/45/17, and were visibly protruding beyond the wheel arch on the front by approximately 5-6mm. They have also been catching the wheel arches on the front when going over speed ramps or bigger bumps in the road.

A local MOT Testing Station could not clarify whether this protrusion was classed as illegal so I would hope you could provide clarification? Steven Jewitt

As I understand the situation the only way the MOT is affected is if your new wheels actually foul the bodywork or any other part of the vehicle when the wheels are turned lock to lock when the vehicle is sitting in its normal position."


www.motester.co.uk


http://forums.motester.co.uk/forum9/2243.html

That is an interesting thread and site Elvi :smiley:

Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: thatwillis on 14 January 2012, 15:08
No idea if its legal but it looks nice.  :laugh: What wheels are they?

Nice bit of camber and you missus will have a lovely stance   :evil:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 14 January 2012, 15:13
A quick look around, and at the relevant law:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/3013/schedule/2/made

I would say that as long as the tyre is under the arch, the wheel can be protruding NO MORE than 30mm

from the vertical plane of the car.


Quote

2.  There shall be no other feature on the external surface of the vehicle likely to increase the risk or seriousness of injury to any person who could come into contact with the vehicle. Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, the radius of curvature of all hard parts protruding from this external surface which can be contacted by a sphere of 100 mm diameter, shall be not less than 2.5 mm


The second sentence of paragraph 2 shall not apply to—


(d)wheels, if there are no pointed or sharp features which projects beyond the external plane of the wheel rim, no wing nuts are fitted and there are no projections beyond the vehicle body plan form apart from tyres and wheel discs, if the latter have a radius of curvature of not less than 30 mm and do not project by more than 30 mm beyond the vehicle body plan form;



Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: golfyste on 14 January 2012, 16:04
I believe that as long as the tyre tread is inside the arch it is legal, someone once said to me that the original reason people started stretchIng tyres was to fit wider wheels.
Dunno big this is completely true but makes sense
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: tungmeister on 14 January 2012, 16:37
Yep, as others have said it only has to be the tread within the arch :wink:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: jimmy1888 on 14 January 2012, 17:31
No idea if its legal but it looks nice.  :laugh: What wheels are they?

Nice bit of camber and you missus will have a lovely stance   :evil:

Side shots? :grin:

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/jimbo1888/bmw.jpg)

18" LM's (reps)
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: archie837 on 14 January 2012, 17:41
As elvi said - thought you were allowed 30mm of poke?
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Jack3559 on 14 January 2012, 17:42
Totally legal as the tread is covered by the arch. I doubt it would ever rub at that hight so it's fine.
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Diamond Hell on 15 January 2012, 09:31
Doesn't matter what wheels are fitted to that BMW - it's still so f*cking ugly it should be illegal as a whole.

When BMW drove that design through the ugly store they picked up every special offer.

Wheels look fine.  Tell the arrogant moron BMW owners to shut the F up.
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: archie837 on 15 January 2012, 10:28
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: JC on 15 January 2012, 12:45
Shock another negative comment that has nothing to do with this thread! 

just like yours,  :lipsrsealed:

its in the section called off topic, theres a clue.  :rolleyes:

if it was that bad a post, why not report it rather than reply to it  :kiss:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: tweed on 15 January 2012, 13:00
Shock another negative comment that has nothing to do with this thread! 

just like yours,  :lipsrsealed:

its in the section called off topic, theres a clue.  :rolleyes:

if it was that bad a post, why not report it rather than reply to it  :kiss:


Lol so now your doing the same as me?  :grin:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: JC on 15 January 2012, 13:23
yep, then i will just delete it  :kiss:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Alan16ac on 15 January 2012, 21:37
I'd say they were probably technically illegal. However they're such a small amount out, it'd take a real anal **** to make a fuss about them.

Don't MOT it at ATS then!  :grin:

Advisories I got recently include:

Child seat fitted to the rear
Car is lowered

Car is lowered, that was an advisory?
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: dTEA on 16 January 2012, 08:36
I'd say they were probably technically illegal. However they're such a small amount out, it'd take a real anal **** to make a fuss about them.

Don't MOT it at ATS then!  :grin:

Advisories I got recently include:

Child seat fitted to the rear
Car is lowered

Car is lowered, that was an advisory?
:grin:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: jamie_pyrite on 16 January 2012, 12:57
A mate of mine with a mk2 jetta had 8s on it, which protruded (metal only, not tread). He got pulled for it and the police said "They need to come off, they're too dangerous. The protrusion means a pedestrian's scarf could get caught on the wheel"

 :shocked:
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: Mitching on 16 January 2012, 12:59
A mate of mine with a mk2 jetta had 8s on it, which protruded (metal only, not tread). He got pulled for it and the police said "They need to come off, they're too dangerous. The protrusion means a pedestrian's scarf could get caught on the wheel"

 :shocked:
:huh:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xO4OkrnWRzE/TZCbK5ArxMI/AAAAAAAAChs/6Ydk8lPWYSA/s1600/originalcostume.jpg)
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: leigh_harty on 16 January 2012, 15:29
A mate of mine with a mk2 jetta had 8s on it, which protruded (metal only, not tread). He got pulled for it and the police said "They need to come off, they're too dangerous. The protrusion means a pedestrian's scarf could get caught on the wheel"

 :shocked:

Ive had similar, my old arosa only had 7"wide rims on it but the offset was something silly like -22

The had me in the back of the X5 whilst we argued that i was right (rim allowed to protude and tyre wasnt)

All whilst his mate took photos and sent them the the "experts".... Long story short the expert said i was right but i needed mudflaps andc got a £60 fine  :angry: all depends on the copper
Title: Re: are my wheels legal???
Post by: bob23 on 16 January 2012, 16:21
Doesn't matter what wheels are fitted to that BMW - it's still so f*cking ugly it should be illegal as a whole.

When BMW drove that design through the ugly store they picked up every special offer.

Wheels look fine.  Tell the arrogant moron BMW owners to shut the F up.

I haven't said anything yet! :grin:

Wheels look good mate. :afro: