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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 17:36

Title: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 17:36
Ok so i did a search but no joy.Just a query really.
Took the missus MK4 for a spirited drive on a twisty b road earlier.1st time since weve have it.
Its lowered 45mm on Koni adjustable shocks/springs.

Ive set the dampning in the middle,stiff,soft,every combination i can have it and it just feels proper lazy going round corners.
The arse end seems to go round the corner all of a sudden and doesnt seem in keeping with the front.
It has new wishbones and drop links up front and the rear axle bushes were changed 6 months ago,there is nothing mechanical wrong with the suspension at all.

Is it just how they handle?I mean it's not a fast car(1.6 16v AZD) but i expected it to handle a little better. :grin:

Cheers.
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: Dave_IOW on 06 January 2012, 17:39
Rear ARB will sort it  :afro:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: richw911 on 06 January 2012, 17:58
Is there such a thing?
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 18:03
Ah right i didnt know it didnt have one to be honest :laugh:
I dont really want to go mad with this one so probably wont get a rear arb unless one comes up cheap second hand.It's only a little 1.6 after all.Just wondered if they all handled like this as her next one will be a 1.8t as she said this one is gutless :grin: so was maybe going to consider a mk5 if they handled any better as i will be using it when the weather is pants as i dont want to get the mk3 dirty :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: thatwillis on 06 January 2012, 18:07
I prefure the drive of my mk4 1.8t to my parents 1.6 mk5 you just feel the road very well in the mk5.
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 18:10
Well i think i will have to have a go in another mk4 before i make the decision what to get her.This will do for 6 months till i get my mk3 finished then i will build her a nice mk4/5.Just like to do my homework 1st :nerd:

Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: golf-sib on 06 January 2012, 19:38
Mk4's are back end happy, its a lot scarier at high speeds when you are facing backwards  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: jonnyturbo on 06 January 2012, 20:18
welcome to the mk4  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 20:25
Ah very good,at least its normal. :evil: Feels like the arse end is gunna step out at any minute! :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 21:10
understeer mine does.... massivley

You probably have a few more horses than her car though :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 06 January 2012, 21:32
It could be. I have Parada's on the front of hers and it doesn't understeer at all.
Got pirelli p7000 on the rear and they don't feel half as grippy.
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: Steve_PD on 07 January 2012, 01:29
Well theres your bloodly problem.....
Or your going to fast for the corner :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: houston on 07 January 2012, 19:42
p6000's are horrid tyres, there on my 16s and i hate them, cant wait to get the 18s back on.

rear arb, get a good one and when you come to sell just take it off ready for the 1.8t. same floor pan. makes such a difference.

Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 07 January 2012, 19:46
so today's lesson ladies and gents, sh!t tyres on the back = oversteer, sh!t tyres on the front = understeer

who'd have thunk it
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: dom on 07 January 2012, 20:03
p6000's are horrid tyres, there on my 16s and i hate them, cant wait to get the 18s back on.

rear arb, get a good one and when you come to sell just take it off ready for the 1.8t. same floor pan. makes such a difference.



Agreed, getting rid of mine made the world of difference!
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 07 January 2012, 20:31
I agree that p6000 are pants. They were designed as a low grade premium tyre for rep mobiles that last quite a long time which in turn means they have a harder compound in them.
The p7000 was made purely as a sports car tyre and they are pretty good tbh.
They work at their optimum halfway through their life but then tend to wear out quickly.(can you tell I used to work for pirelli as a young un) :grin:

Their P5000 Drago was my all-time favourite tyre and they looked sexyfull too! Shame they ceased production a few years ago :(

Anyway I will stick the Parada's on the back and see if their us a difference but I cant see there being that much difference tbh :)
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: houston on 07 January 2012, 21:08
I agree that p6000 are pants. They were designed as a low grade premium tyre for rep mobiles that last quite a long time which in turn means they have a harder compound in them.
The p7000 was made purely as a sports car tyre and they are pretty good tbh.
They work at their optimum halfway through their life but then tend to wear out quickly.(can you tell I used to work for pirelli as a young un) :grin:

Their P5000 Drago was my all-time favourite tyre and they looked sexyfull too! Shame they ceased production a few years ago :(

Anyway I will stick the Parada's on the back and see if their us a difference but I cant see there being that much difference tbh :)

had 5000s on my primera and didnt notice how good they were till i got different tyres on the back and lost it on a roundabout!!! luckily didnt crash.

were 6000s what vw fitted as standard?
Title: Re: MK4 Handling
Post by: LowlifeDubber on 07 January 2012, 23:36
I agree that p6000 are pants. They were designed as a low grade premium tyre for rep mobiles that last quite a long time which in turn means they have a harder compound in them.
The p7000 was made purely as a sports car tyre and they are pretty good tbh.
They work at their optimum halfway through their life but then tend to wear out quickly.(can you tell I used to work for pirelli as a young un) :grin:

Their P5000 Drago was my all-time favourite tyre and they looked sexyfull too! Shame they ceased production a few years ago :(

Anyway I will stick the Parada's on the back and see if their us a difference but I cant see there being that much difference tbh :)


I believe so,although they were the older style and not the new Powergy's :)

had 5000s on my primera and didnt notice how good they were till i got different tyres on the back and lost it on a roundabout!!! luckily didnt crash.

were 6000s what vw fitted as standard?