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Title: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: CyRuS on 03 January 2012, 00:56
hello, introduce myself, my name is Jorge and I write from Madrid (Spain). Currently, I have a 1.8t gti AGU 1999 and the car has a reprogramming stage 2.

changes

- Apexi intake or BMC CDA (which is better?)
- Fpr 4 bar
- Downpipe 2.5 "supersprint
- Cat back
- Fuel pump seat leon cupra r
- k03s
- revo stage 2
- forge 007p
- inlet pipe forge
- silicone hoses

I have at home also to mount an intercooler THS, and also a clutch lightened flywheel ECS.

The car works well but I have fear if the 286cc injectors are too small. I have read in this forum
you ride Saab red injectors and Maf 3 "of a golf VR6 (I have the injectors and maf but I have not yet installed)
 
I can install injectors SAAB RED and MAF 3" without changing the reprogramming?

The 286 injectors and fpr 4bar will be sufficient for the k03s?

I raise two logs of the car last week I have for you you see them

Forgive my bad English, and help me because in Spain there is not information about 1.8t AGU.

               
   Group A:   '002         
      Idle speed   Engine load   Inj. period   Air mass in
   TIME   800-920 rpm   0.5-1.5 m/s   1.00-3.00 m/s   1.8-4 g/s
MARKER   STAMP    /min    ms    ms    g/s
   0.54   1320   1.85   4.93   7.57
   1.68   1360   4.55   9.41   20.34
   2.81   1560   5.35   10.37   27.01
   3.93   1840   6.35   13.31   37.36
   5.07   2120   8.65   16.32   58.33
   6.19   2440   12.75   16.32   99.86
   7.32   2880   12.75   16.32   117.71
   8.46   3400   12.75   16.32   138.75
   9.59   3880   12.70   16.32   157.36
   10.73   4320   11.55   16.32   160.00
   11.87   4760   11.25   16.32   171.11
   13.00   5160   10.75   16.32   177.92
   14.12   5480   10.15   16.32   176.59
   15.26   5760   9.85   16.32   181.25
   16.39   6040   8.75   16.32   168.47
   17.51   6280   8.45   16.32   169.23
   18.65   6480   8.35   16.32   171.73


Group A:   '014         
   Engine speed   Engine load   Cyl 1 retard   Cyl 2 retard
TIME   0-6800 rpm   0-10 m/s   0-9 degCA   0-9 degCA
STAMP    /min    ms   °   °
0.37   1280   2.75   0.0   0.0
1.49   1400   4.55   0.0   0.0
2.64   1600   5.35   0.0   0.0
3.78   1880   6.35   0.0   0.0
4.91   2160   9.05   0.0   0.0
6.05   2480   12.75   0.0   2.2
7.17   2960   12.75   0.0   1.5
8.31   3440   12.75   2.2   1.5
9.46   3920   12.50   2.2   0.7
10.59   4360   11.80   1.5   0.0
11.71   4800   10.95   0.7   2.2
12.83   5200   10.30   0.0   1.5
14.00   5480   10.10   0.0   1.5
15.14   5800   9.10   3.0   0.7
16.30   6040   8.65   3.0   0.7
17.44   6280   8.45   1.5   0.0


Group B:   '015         
   Engine speed   Engine load   Cyl 3 retard   Cyl 4 retard
TIME   0-6800 rpm   0-10 m/s   0-9 degCA   0-9 degCA
STAMP    /min    ms   °   °
0.76   1320   3.65   0.0   0.0
1.87   1480   4.85   0.0   0.0
3.03   1680   5.65   0.0   0.0
4.16   1920   6.95   0.0   0.0
5.30   2240   10.50   0.0   0.0
6.42   2640   12.75   0.0   2.2
7.55   3120   12.75   0.0   0.0
8.69   3600   12.75   0.7   0.7
9.83   4120   12.20   0.0   2.2
10.96   4520   11.45   0.0   1.5
12.10   4920   10.70   2.2   0.7
13.20   5280   10.20   3.7   3.0
14.39   5600   10.05   3.7   3.0
15.52   5880   8.85   3.0   2.2
16.69   6160   8.60   2.2   1.5
17.81   6360   8.35   1.5   4.5
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: james2 on 03 January 2012, 01:04
Welcome. Nice choose of car, i have the same. Only advise i can give you, is use a airfilter set up as mine. Dont put it in wheel arce. I chopped it down so it sat next to battery and got new filter. I tryed them all / i love this one . :wink:

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/james2452/HPIM0518.jpg)

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/james2452/HPIM0523.jpg)

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/james2452/HPIM0517.jpg)
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: CyRuS on 03 January 2012, 01:32
this is my 1.8t with Apexi
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/373/imag0398c.jpg)
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: james2 on 03 January 2012, 01:38
weres your n75. And remove the rubber off your ingition amp. Looks good.  :smug:
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: CyRuS on 04 January 2012, 00:47
Hello any opinion, someone with AGU and stage 2 with saab injectors and maf 3 "



Quote from: james2 on 03 January 2012, 01:38
weres your n75. And remove the rubber off your ingition amp. Looks good.  :smug:

I do not remove the rubber amp ignition in case I ever want to put original intake, the n75 is in its original place
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 January 2012, 07:29
After putting vr6 maf on, you will need it reprogrammed yes. Think Calibre yellows are more suited to vr6 mad. Saab reds for 3'' I'D maf :wink:
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: CyRuS on 04 January 2012, 10:17
Quote from: Dave_IOW on 04 January 2012, 07:29
After putting vr6 maf on, you will need it reprogrammed yes. Think Calibre yellows are more suited to vr6 mad. Saab reds for 3'' I'D maf :wink:


 yes, I have the red saab injectors 350cc, I had read that red saab injectors and vr6 maf can be placed without changing the reprogramming.


 as seen in the log, the inj. period is 16.4 maximum, this is not very high but I do not know very well interpret these values
Title: Re: help from Spain, 1.8t AGU (injectors and stage 2)
Post by: CyRuS on 04 January 2012, 13:22
in this thread talking about my question, I understand that vr6 maf and injectors saab red is a good combination

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=195623.0

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=187178.0