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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jonnyturbo on 30 December 2011, 17:48
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As above does anyone know if the K04-001 from backdraft use the same diameter tip as the KK03s ? I know it uses same oil lines etc just dosent say anything bout tip size thnks
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KO4 is bigger i think :smiley:
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Hmm seems strange that it uses factory oil / water lines and down pipe off K03s and yet they changed the tip size LOL cheers rich :afro:
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Hmm seems strange that it uses factory oil / water lines and down pipe off K03s and yet they changed the tip size LOL cheers rich :afro:
Im sure someone will know for sure :smiley:
*Shouts for Topher*
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LOL
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K04-001 is a 100% direct fit from your K03s and the Forge k03s tip will fit spot on :wink:
The turbine internals are bigger, the comp wheel is k03 size but with a new blade confiuration, put the k04-023 cold side on the 001 and you have enough to flow for 299bhp.
Other mods needed to get the 001 on full song are, 386cc BAM/AMK injectors @3bar, then port the collector and runner number 3 on your exhaust manifold.
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try searching google, im sure the compressor wheel in the k04-001 is slightly smaller than the k03s :drool: not 100% sure though
it does have a larger turbine wheel though..
the reason the oil/coolant/downpipe ect are the same it because it shares the same turbine housing cast as the k03 and the chra housing is the same for the k03 and k04. it starts do differ when you alter the exhaust housing for one like the k04-023 which is for longitudianal cars like the passat.. to fit one to the golf the S3/TT 225 exhaust manifold, oil/coolant lines and downpipe would be needed.
im not sure exactly what tip size is needed for the k04-001.. i would have thought you could get an aftermarket k03s tip to fit to be honest.
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Cheers Nick :afro:
Just need a discount code for backdraft now LOL
What sort of bhp / ft lb am I talking of with current mods Nick? Obv turbo needs sorting cos of the wastegate is still sticking every now and then . Cheers Nick
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try searching google, im sure the compressor wheel in the k04-001 is slightly smaller than the k03s :drool: not 100% sure though
it does have a larger turbine wheel though..
the reason the oil/coolant/downpipe ect are the same it because it shares the same turbine housing cast as the k03 and the chra housing is the same for the k03 and k04. it starts do differ when you alter the exhaust housing for one like the k04-023 which is for longitudianal cars like the passat.. to fit one to the golf the S3/TT 225 exhaust manifold, oil/coolant lines and downpipe would be needed.
im not sure exactly what tip size is needed for the k04-001.. i would have thought you could get an aftermarket k03s tip to fit to be honest.
To late :laugh:
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LOL Yip Nick was quick
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LOL Yip Nick was quick
Must be his remap :laugh: :grin:
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Lol :tongue:
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Lol :tongue:
Defo getting a new turbo then? :evil:
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try searching google, im sure the compressor wheel in the k04-001 is slightly smaller than the k03s :drool: not 100% sure though
it does have a larger turbine wheel though..
the reason the oil/coolant/downpipe ect are the same it because it shares the same turbine housing cast as the k03 and the chra housing is the same for the k03 and k04. it starts do differ when you alter the exhaust housing for one like the k04-023 which is for longitudianal cars like the passat.. to fit one to the golf the S3/TT 225 exhaust manifold, oil/coolant lines and downpipe would be needed.
im not sure exactly what tip size is needed for the k04-001.. i would have thought you could get an aftermarket k03s tip to fit to be honest.
comp wheel same height size and back plate is same as k03 sosmaller than k03s, but the 001 wheel wont fit the k03 comp housing the TIP size works out to be the same as a k03s..lol
The K04-001 is the most confusing turbo for the 1.8T, no one knows why it was built and what for? and its hard to get exact specs unless you take one apart like I did,, but what I can say its the most fun turbo out there for the 1.8Ts. 300lbft at close on to3000rpm..
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LOL Yip Nick was quick
Must be his remap :laugh: :grin:
Too much Redbull :grin:
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Oh god rich he must have got red bull off Santa LOL
Is 300lb achieveable on my mods or would I need the bigger injectors etc Nick ?
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Lol :tongue:
:evil:
Defo getting a new turbo then? :evil:
Gunna have to rich by time I take k03s out and recon its Gunna b pushing £450 and will have same power . may as well upgrade :evil:
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Cheers Nick :afro:
Just need a discount code for backdraft now LOL
What sort of bhp / ft lb am I talking of with current mods Nick? Obv turbo needs sorting cos of the wastegate is still sticking every now and then . Cheers Nick
I will find out for you on price, (might be worth hanging on until so of the k03-023 hybrids are up and running, I have a customers AUM booked on the 7th Jan to see what the 03-023 hybrid will push from a map.
I have my k04-001 (just turbo) run 13.9s at santa pod which is quicker than all the strong stage2 LCRs and S3 K04 engines. I started of tuning the 001 to 262bhp 290lbft, then went mad for a while and made 270bhp 334lbft with big boost, then wanted more flow so bolted the k04-023 cold side to it and made 299bhp.
Now got a 450bhp stage-3 .63 T304e going on the beast with multi port 100hp nos and WMI... :grin:
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Oh god rich he must have got red bull off Santa LOL
Is 300lb achieveable on my mods or would I need the bigger injectors etc Nick ?
I would go for uprated rods if you want big torque numbers. I snapped my number 1 rod with the 001 at 290lbft, but was it the oil pump chain fail, fatigue from a rod with 156k or peak cylinder pressure from 290lbft? Best to be safe the sorry, but saying that you can get an AUM/AUQ engine with less the 70k for £300-350.
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LOL Nick that poor little black mk4
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Cheers Nick :afro:
Just need a discount code for backdraft now LOL
What sort of bhp / ft lb am I talking of with current mods Nick? Obv turbo needs sorting cos of the wastegate is still sticking every now and then . Cheers Nick
I will find out for you on price, (might be worth hanging on until so of the k03-023 hybrids are up and running, I have a customers AUM booked on the 7th Jan to see what the 03-023 hybrid wi
ll push from a map.
I have my k04-001 (just turbo) run 13.9s at santa pod which is quicker than all the strong stage2 LCRs and S3 K04 engines. I started of tuning the 001 to 262bhp 290lbft, then went mad for a while and made 270bhp 334lbft with big boost, then wanted more flow so bolted the k04-023 cold side to it and made 299bhp.
Now got a 450bhp stage-3 .63 T304e going on the beast with multi port 100hp nos and WMI... :grin:
Ah sure I can just wait till after the 7th although I would be happy with 262bhp and 290ft lb . Which uprated rods did u use Nick ?
LOL Yeh new engine only £300 Lmao
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THS
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LOL Nick I ain't got a 1000 bucks for rods LOL
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Rods = £300.
Its the fitting, new head gasket set, cambelt kit, piston rings, tensioner, pulley, ARP head bolts, waterpump, oil pump that might aswell be done at the same time!
Some of the above are essential too..
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Ah I see . Well I had a new Cambelt kit water pump fitted this year LOL . See what happens LOL
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Sorry to hijack but will the k03s actuator fit the 001?
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Sorry to hijack but will the k03s actuator fit the 001?
99.9% sure it will, i have one on 3s and going to be transfered across, if not, VERY simple excersise to make it fit on OE bracket.
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Sorry to hijack but will the k03s actuator fit the 001?
99.9% sure it will, i have one on 3s and going to be transfered across, if not, VERY simple excersise to make it fit on OE bracket.
Ok mate cheers :smiley:
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I'm tempted to go for a Chinese copy :lipsrsealed:
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you aint the only onw wazzzer lol if it pops rebuild it haha!! new year got so many ideas haha
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Sorry to hijack but will the k03s actuator fit the 001?
99.9% sure it will, i have one on 3s and going to be transfered across, if not, VERY simple excersise to make it fit on OE bracket.
Yes it will I bought an actuator to go on my k03s but my mate stripped his car back to std so I had his new k04 001 and I fitted my actuator to it before fitting it to my car
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Nick... How do you port the manifold mate? I asked before but you didn't reply mate guess you been really busy. I messed you in my underboost issue to
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I *think*it's no.3 on the collector, it sticks out a bit inside...
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lol GB from backdraft ???
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I could buy 3 of those Chinese copies for the price of one Backdraft K04 though :lipsrsealed:
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I *think*it's no.3 on the collector, it sticks out a bit inside...
arrr so you shave that back is it to open it out a bit is it?
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lol wes ano thats what i am thinking
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Holy sh!t look at the size of this... :shocked:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K03s-Turbo-upgrade-VW-1-8T-jetta-mk4-IV-Borgwarner-K04-turbocharger-NOT-CHINESE-/270844213200?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0f92b7d0
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Beast!
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3rd runnee is the shortest as well in the manifold, so get them exhaust gases out quick :grin:
K04-001 and T304 are so tempting the chinese copies, really think I will get a t3 at some point in the year hopefully with an oil cooler.
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Holy sh!t look at the size of this... :shocked:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K03s-Turbo-upgrade-VW-1-8T-jetta-mk4-IV-Borgwarner-K04-turbocharger-NOT-CHINESE-/270844213200?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0f92b7d0
fook thats tempting, never seen these before, anyone got one?
How about you nick have you seen these or mapped one?
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Thought it would of given more power with size of it, bet thats the 300hp one for the extra 100$ in the pics, to draw people like me in,coz it looks maskive.ha
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More than likely lol
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Bump as anyone got one of these super hybrid babys? And nick have you seen/ heard anything about them?
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Looking at 1st post k04-001 I was looking at couple months ago intake side was 50mm, 43mm on ko3s. Unless there selling it with intake from or same size as 023!! Not sure did speak to guy at time and he did say was bigger than ko3s so tip would fit. Not sure what size intake is on a 023 in first place.
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023 tip is 55 mm is memory serves..
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One i was looking at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290560462819?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330663193992?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
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What size is intake on that one?? seen some with 55mm, there all over the place on sizes. So which tip would you use or be custom made jobbie??
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First eBay link looks like it will fit standard k03s downpipe
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This is why I am swaying to a genuine K04-001
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I'll have to take my TIP off and see what it could stretch to before I commit to anything :smiley:
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Nick said k03s tip will fit the K04-001 so all is good
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I see Wes having another impulse buy he has to hide from the missus :lipsrsealed:
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I got a k04 001 on mine and my agu forge tip fits fine
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U had it mapped blade
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Not yet mate will be this month or next I got everything ready to go.. Tell you one thing though it's spools alot quicker it going to be fun when done
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LOL did u go for a genuine K04-001
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Yer mines a genuine from backdraft but I had it off my mate who had it on his car for about 2k miles so is as brand new plus he let me have to a few 100's cheaper
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I need a mate like u . Cheap Rline rear and cheap turbo
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Hahaha yer have got a few good mates that look after me my mate I had the turbo of sold me his injectors and pump for less then he paid for them and there brand new much respect to him
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I need to move to wales
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my mate sent me a msg erlier
asking if i wanted to buy :lipsrsealed:
ko4 18 months old
3" downpipe
80mm badger tip
oil and water lines
386cc injectors
:lipsrsealed:
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Snap it up then :tongue:
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cbf for big power! i want ze looks! there is soo much plod around my way! theres no need to have loads of poweaa !
:grin:
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What price?? just being nosey :grin:
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Been looking into this there are few different 001 out there with 2-3 different size intakes rangeing from 43,50 and 55mm. 43mm same as ko3s other 2 sizes need fine relevant tip to fit which may turn out to be ball ache. Would it be bigger intake with larger blades more power from turbo??
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Been looking into this there are few different 001 out there with 2-3 different size intakes rangeing from 43,50 and 55mm. 43mm same as ko3s other 2 sizes need fine relevant tip to fit which may turn out to be ball ache. Would it be bigger intake with larger blades more power from turbo??
k03 should be 50mm from memory.
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So 's' smaller? Measured old ko3s tip internal diameter iintake size today was 43mm.
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Will see if I can borrow Dave's genuine K04-001 and see what the sizes are, he might even let me pull the compressor housing off and have a proper measure up
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Will see if I can borrow Dave's genuine K04-001 and see what the sizes are, he might even let me pull the compressor housing off and have a proper measure up
Course you can, and if your doing that you might aswell rebuild for me too while your at it :laugh:
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lol I'll strip the housings off for you and take the shaft out, I draw the line at the circlips in case it all gets lost :lipsrsealed:
unless I'm doing it all at once lol
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lol wes u break it u bought it
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lol I'll strip the housings off for you and take the shaft out, I draw the line at the circlips in case it all gets lost :lipsrsealed:
unless I'm doing it all at once lol
Littco sent me a link to get a new shaft for it and ko3s compressor wheel so might take you up on that :lipsrsealed:
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turbo rebuild.co.uk, search for a k04-023 wheel while youre at it :wink: kkk part No# 5304-123-2015
then all you need is an s3 cold housing :smiley:
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Still deciding how far to go with it as will hopefully only be on for just over a year..
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Still deciding how far to go with it as will hopefully only be on for just over a year..
Get the T304E turbo Dave, you know it makes sense, you will get your 300bhp you are after on stock internals, and if you do ever upgrade internals it still has power to take you further :wink:
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Still deciding how far to go with it as will hopefully only be on for just over a year..
Get the T304E turbo Dave, you know it makes sense, you will get your 300bhp you are after on stock internals, and if you do ever upgrade internals it still has power to take you further :wink:
Ive already got a Garrett sat in my living room :grin:
Capable of 300 at the wheels of a 4wd pulsar, so with less loss, might see 320.. LSD and 4wd - less, that should be enough..
Greed, its a powerful thing.
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Still deciding how far to go with it as will hopefully only be on for just over a year..
Get the T304E turbo Dave, you know it makes sense, you will get your 300bhp you are after on stock internals, and if you do ever upgrade internals it still has power to take you further :wink:
Ive already got a Garrett sat in my living room :grin:
Capable of 300 at the wheels of a 4wd pulsar, so with less loss, might see 320.. LSD and 4wd - less, that should be enough..
Greed, its a powerful thing.
So how many months with the garrett on till you start looking for a construction truck turbo and a broken 4mo for the 4wd :grin: :grin: :grin:
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4mo for 4wd would be great but is a hell of a long way off tbh...