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Title: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 December 2011, 13:23
Anyone know how much rear axel bushes are?

and ive never done them before so if anyones done theres and fancy lending a hand for a few beer tokens would be much appreciated (based in darlo so anywere around darlo/boro area) dont want to get stuck/pay a garage a stupid amount to do it... or anyone know a garage around my area that will replace them cheepish? or how much vw charge?


also heard the fabia vrs bushes fit? are these uprated/better or would i just be wasting money to get them?

also would it be easier to do axel bushes and coilovers at the same time rather than fiting the coilovers then the axel bushes? and when lowering should i replace topmounts too?



cheers
Title: Re: anyone know how much
Post by: richw911 on 28 December 2011, 14:33
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=215400.0  :wink:

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/167165.aspx
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 December 2011, 14:37
cheers rich, had a look around but could only find threads from like 2007 and thought the price might have changed since, you know how much garages charge (rough price)? seems like a bit of a PITA job to do...
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: richw911 on 28 December 2011, 14:40
cheers rich, had a look around but could only find threads from like 2007 and thought the price might have changed since, you know how much garages charge (rough price)? seems like a bit of a PITA job to do...

Its not too bad ive never done them though.

How to here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=205144.0

I would say Two or three hours labour at your local garage down here its £35 an hour  :smiley:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: scarr89 on 28 December 2011, 14:41
Great links richy, Cheers.
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 December 2011, 14:42
cheers for that link, didnt know there was a right up on here, had a look at the one on ukmkivs and the one on ukmkivs is crap compared to that one, might give it a try at some point just need to find someone with a good supply of jacks and axel stands  :grin:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: richw911 on 28 December 2011, 14:45
Great links richy, Cheers.

Noi worries


cheers for that link, didnt know there was a right up on here, had a look at the one on ukmkivs and the one on ukmkivs is crap compared to that one, might give it a try at some point just need to find someone with a good supply of jacks and axel stands  :grin:

No probs, yeah give it a crack  :laugh:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 December 2011, 14:49
also in the first link it says that early mk4s were fitted with 69mm but 72mm should fit, mines S reg so will those bushes in the link defo fit yeah before i buy them?
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: richw911 on 28 December 2011, 19:18
also in the first link it says that early mk4s were fitted with 69mm but 72mm should fit, mines S reg so will those bushes in the link defo fit yeah before i buy them?

Yes  :cool:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 28 December 2011, 19:19
also in the first link it says that early mk4s were fitted with 69mm but 72mm should fit, mines S reg so will those bushes in the link defo fit yeah before i buy them?

Yes  :cool:
good good, cause otherwise ive just wasted 20 quid on them   :grin:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: richw911 on 28 December 2011, 19:20
also in the first link it says that early mk4s were fitted with 69mm but 72mm should fit, mines S reg so will those bushes in the link defo fit yeah before i buy them?

Yes  :cool:
good good, cause otherwise ive just wasted 20 quid on them   :grin:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Knacker on 29 December 2011, 00:04
Hmm Iv been quoted £165 for parts and fitting with MOT or Do I save the money... :huh:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 31 December 2011, 15:48
ok, ive got started on this, and got stuck :D after much strugle getting the bolts out that were very rusted, i started to drop the axle, but can only get it to drop about an inch, i think i see the problem, but havent any idea how to sort it so any help welcomed.

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/408763_10150650196718906_559108905_11775843_1274434878_n.jpg) this shows how far im able to drop the axle.
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406363_10150650196803906_559108905_11775844_479728275_n.jpg)

what i think it is is this...
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/374224_10150650199728906_559108905_11775858_1256224483_n.jpg)what looks like a break line, however i see no way to unclip it? ive uncliped the one that runs under the axle bush, but i think this line is stoping me droping it further, any idea of how to unclip it???

cheers
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Dave_IOW on 31 December 2011, 15:56
Hmm cant remember from when i did mine, but i ended up taking the rear beam off altogether!

I needed to press my bushes in anyway (polybush) and upgraded all my brake lines to braided at the same time.
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Dave_IOW on 31 December 2011, 15:56
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=205144.0
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 31 December 2011, 15:59
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=205144.0
already read that mate, ive done exactly what its got written in there but cant seem to get it to drop more than an inch. think its because of the line in the background of the pics i posted... though cant see anyway to unclip that  :undecided:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Dave_IOW on 31 December 2011, 16:25
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=205144.0
already read that mate, ive done exactly what its got written in there but cant seem to get it to drop more than an inch. think its because of the line in the background of the pics i posted... though cant see anyway to unclip that  :undecided:

Don't think the metal ones can be unclipped but the rubber ones can, im pretty sure if you leave the rear beam on, you wont completely clear the mounting so you wont be able to see clearly through the mounting.

Its for this reason i removed the rear beam!

Best of luck  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Wazzzer on 31 December 2011, 16:44
Take the mount off the floor!
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 31 December 2011, 16:52
Take the mount off the floor!
thats what i was thinking of doing, however in the thread it didnt look like he did so was hoping i was just making a stupid little mistake, job for tomorow then, just hope these jacks that are holding the axles up dont get niked  :grin:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Wazzzer on 31 December 2011, 17:01
if you're leaving the beam on you have to unbolt them really  :wink:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 31 December 2011, 17:06
yeah, will give it a go tomorow then, ah the joys, also could vw have put the feking bolts for the rear axles in a more awkward place, took bloody ages, not helped by the 11 years of rust on them
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 01 January 2012, 16:15
turns out its not as easy as i thought to take off those plates, so rusted i could only get 2 out of 8 bolts undone  :shocked: and they took half a hour to get off, in the end i gave up and put the car back togeather and am going to drop it off at my cusns garage and ask him to do it and just take the whole rear axle out because im fed up of f*cking around with it now.
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: D4VEY01 on 01 January 2012, 16:43
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 02 January 2012, 13:13
just out of interest anyone know anywere in darlo, boro, aycliffe that sort of area who have the correct tools to do this?

my cusns garage hasent got the tool and he said hed do it but he would have to take whole axle out stick it in a vice and give it a good tw@ing with a hammer ect untill it goes in so said someone with the proper tools might be able to do it quicker and cheeper...
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: Big Tone on 04 January 2012, 09:37
Take the mount off the floor!
thats what i was thinking of doing, however in the thread it didnt look like he did so was hoping i was just making a stupid little mistake, job for tomorow then, just hope these jacks that are holding the axles up dont get niked  :grin:

This is turning into a right tw#t of a job for you aint it!

It is VERY tight (how we like it! Lol) but with the"play" there is when the beam is " floating" it is possible.

Worst case scenario, break the brake lines and bleed the brakes?

As far as the correct tool, there is one but sod buying it for one use!

Improvisation is the key.
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 04 January 2012, 11:57
Take the mount off the floor!
thats what i was thinking of doing, however in the thread it didnt look like he did so was hoping i was just making a stupid little mistake, job for tomorow then, just hope these jacks that are holding the axles up dont get niked  :grin:

This is turning into a right tw#t of a job for you aint it!

It is VERY tight (how we like it! Lol) but with the"play" there is when the beam is " floating" it is possible.

Worst case scenario, break the brake lines and bleed the brakes?

As far as the correct tool, there is one but sod buying it for one use!

Improvisation is the key.
yeah i was going to buy the tool but had other stuff to do so wouldnt have had time to do it untill sunday anyway and need the car sat night so my cusns doing it for me friday night, means i dont have to f**k on bleading the breaks ect cause chances are i was going to have to disconnect the break lines.
Title: Re: Rear Axel Bushes help
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 04 January 2012, 12:14
This is the thread I used when doing my mk3 rear bushes, same principle can be used on the mk4.

 http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3242686